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https://prospect.org/power/2025-10-02-microsoft-abandoning-windows-10-hackers-celebrating/

This month, Microsoft will ruin hundreds of millions of computers in the U.S. and create more than one billion pounds of electronic waste, for no reason other than to make money, consumer and environmental advocates warn. The tech goliath valued at $3.8 trillion is ending support on personal computers for Windows 10, the second-most popular version of the operating system worldwide. This means that owners of devices that are too old to handle the free Windows 11 upgrade must make a choice. Businesses can pay Microsoft to extend support for Windows 10 for $61 per device, a cost that doubles each consecutive year for three years total. Individuals can pay $30 for security upgrades that are only scheduled to last for one year. Or everyone can bin their computers and buy a new one.
For everyone who cant afford those choices, they can run Windows 10 without support, making their devices easier to hack. The sheer scale of what will happen when support ends on October 14 is alarming, Nathan Proctor, senior director the U.S. Public Interest Research Group (PIRG) Right to Repair campaign, told the Prospect. He noted that when Microsoft ended support for Windows 8 in January 2016, less than 4 percent of users were still running it. But about 42 percent of Windows computers worldwide are still using Windows 10.
Along with right-to-repair groups, consumer advocates, and environmental organizations from around the planet, PIRG is calling on Microsoft to extend free, automatic support for Windows 10, as the company announced last week it would do for an additional year within the European Economic Area. Proctor characterized Microsofts decision to end support everywhere else as holding security hostage. He asked, Will having a secure device be the privilege of the well-to-do now?

Millions of computers becoming obsolete because they cannot upgrade to Windows 11 is coming at a particularly difficult time for many working people. The U.S. unemployment rate has hit a nearly four-year high of 4.3 percent, and August saw an inflation rate of 2.9 percent. Its easier said than done to encourage Microsoft users to upgrade their devices to newer versionsdoing so can be costly. The pricing for a new, lower-end Windows 11 laptop begins at around $300, and a more advanced machine can be more than $3,000. Although it is possible to purchase a used or refurbished computer, that too can be costly.
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dalton99a
(90,477 posts)Abnredleg
(1,167 posts)Newer motherboards have chips for improved security and they have to be present for Windows 11 - I had to replace my old PC because it didnt have these chips and couldnt be upgraded to 11. Yes, there is a profit motive, but there is also the issue that older hardware is far less secure.
Faux pas
(15,945 posts)
PJMcK
(24,269 posts)thinkingagain
(1,305 posts)I just finally had to buy a new Mac.
Because the old one could no longer get updated and programs started to not be able to work on it.
QueerDuck
(146 posts)... FOR FREE!
Abnredleg
(1,167 posts)I worked in IT for almost 30 years and know this first hand. People want an appliance they turn on and it works right away. They dont want to know how it works.
CivicGrief
(234 posts)have always been the downfall (WFi, printers, etc.).
QueerDuck
(146 posts)... But with a little determination and contempt for microsoft, I was able to teach myself what I needed to know by way of helpful YouTube videos. It's all a matter of determination and motivation.
Lefta Dissenter
(6,691 posts)I hadnt known about the extended support option. That buys me some time for my dads computer that I was assuming wed have to abandon mid-month.
Still pissed off about it, but since my dad is 96 years old, Im not about to buy him a new computer, so the $30 will be worth it.
Thanks again for informing me!
synni
(570 posts)More stable, supports most common file types, and smaller distros like Puppy Linux give life to older computers.
When my Win98SE computer became obsolete, Puppy Linux kept me running until the year 2018.
It cost me absolutely nothing.
Beartracks
(14,119 posts)I've got a 10÷-year-old computer that was already stressed when forced to upgrade to Windows 10. I'd hate to abandon it.
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chouchou
(2,401 posts)I use 11 pro. (11 home is free and 11 Pro is 'bout 6 bucks) (www.electronicfirst.com)
Plus If you want to keep Windows 10 ..it will cost you 8.3 cents per day. Big deal.
Celerity
(52,221 posts)chouchou
(2,401 posts)...but, that's the word from the special place..the internet! ..yeah.
ornotna
(11,370 posts)75% of the ATM's in America are based on Windows 10.
This will not be pretty.
videohead5
(2,758 posts)Another year for free. You have to have a Microsoft account. go to settings and then click on updates and security and you should see enroll for a year of updates free. If not, make sure that all Windows updates have been installed.
ForgedCrank
(2,888 posts)this from a PC that is 14 years old and it is running Windows 11
It's just a matter of spending a little time downloading and reading, no problem
As a side note: I can't stand Windows 11 (or 10).
Celerity
(52,221 posts)snip
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications?r=1
The end of free support for Windows 10 on October 14, 2025 coincides with the new strict hardware requirements for Windows 11, which will render tens of millions of machines incompatible.
ForgedCrank
(2,888 posts)install windows 11 on hardware that does not have the "required" TPM module etc. There are easy ways to bypass the security requirements. any machine within the alst 10 years will happily run it, and many even older than that.
That said, if someones machine is incapable of a 720P video display output and doesn't have a 64bit processor, it was meant for the scrap pile 15 years ago and probably came with Windows 2000 (or older) on it. Time to let that go, MS can't compile operating systems for 20+ year-old architecture, nor will you be able to get drivers from the various manufacturers for the extremely old equipment even if you could install it. Machines that old are not numbered in the tens of millions, not even close. and people who are still using them have not had any patches or support for 20 years already. They wouldn't chuck it in the trash just because Windows 11. They've already skipped over half a dozen major Windows versions and there is no security software that will run on them and there hasn't been for 2 decades.
Wednesdays
(20,865 posts)For the life of me, I can't navigate Windows 10 or 11. So, I'm running Windows 11, but I installed a program that emulates Windows 7, which I always found a breeze to use.
ForgedCrank
(2,888 posts)a very popular modification pack that I've seen a lot of people run.
It's very tempting because I despise the OS interface too, but I don't allow 3rd party freeware to have permissions to hooks in my operating system. I don't trust any of it.
AnyFunctioningAdult
(200 posts)Two and a half years ago. It is not like they just let people know... Windows 11 is a FREE upgrade if you have a PC running Windows 10.
Also, most articles fail to explain that the last monthly update will be released October 14th, which will cover the security patching until November 11th, which is the next Patch Tuesday...so you have a bit of extra time to complete the upgrade.
Celerity
(52,221 posts)AnyFunctioningAdult
(200 posts)You do need to have at least an 8th Gen Intel (released 2017) processor and a TPM 2.0 chip for security. There are ways to bypass that unofficially, but you do need modern hardware to support protection against modern threats. There is no 32-bit version of Windows 11, but 32-bit limits you to a max of 4GB of RAM which is hard to imagine being very functional running current programs.
Windows 10 ended up having a 10 year lifespan, just like Windows 7.
hunter
(39,992 posts)That's been my rule since I switched from Windows 98SE to Linux.
I like to keep things simple and avoid these sorts of drama in my life.
The last new computer I bought was a 386. Since then all my computers have been someone else's e-waste, with the exception of a Raspberry Pi or two.
So I guess I should be thankful to Microsoft for making all these older Widows machines obsolete.