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orangecrush

(26,887 posts) Thu Oct 2, 2025, 04:07 PM 11 hrs ago

I have seen some posters claiming the Chicago ICE raid was unsubstantiated

That there was no footage.

WTAF?

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I have seen some posters claiming the Chicago ICE raid was unsubstantiated (Original Post) orangecrush 11 hrs ago OP

Kick dalton99a 11 hrs ago #1

"This is what I voted for!" "Thank you ice" "America can't thank I.C.E., FBI, and Border patrol agents enough! " progressoid 10 hrs ago #2

Bush 43 made a similar lie near election day in 2004. John1956PA 9 hrs ago #8

I just finished dinner, no way am I looking those sewer sites up irisblue 9 hrs ago #11

I still say using Budget & U-Haul trucks dflprincess 10 hrs ago #3

Stand back and CivicGrief 10 hrs ago #4

Yes. And u-haul said they would not allow this any longer. travelingthrulife 10 hrs ago #5

Do you think thugs would hesitate to lie? Could be that U Haul is being lied to by renters. Hekate 10 hrs ago #6

Of course ICE lied. Now that it has been documented, Budget should never rent to ICE again. nt SunSeeker 7 hrs ago #25

UHaul's Reservation "Advisements" tell you not to. nilram 9 hrs ago #9

UHaul should never rent to ICE again for violating the rental agreement. SunSeeker 7 hrs ago #26

I agree orangecrush 9 hrs ago #10

LOL popsdenver 9 hrs ago #18

More Bernardo de La Paz 10 hrs ago #7

Thank you orangecrush 9 hrs ago #12

U.S. Attorney General ain't worth s***. elleng 9 hrs ago #15

This deserves many kicks!! bluestarone 9 hrs ago #13

Thank you orangecrush 8 hrs ago #20

It is illegal to transport human beings in U-haul and Budget moving trucks. SunSeeker 9 hrs ago #14

Is this a case of TSF's goons riding in rental vehicles? Wednesdays 8 hrs ago #19

It also violates every truck rental agreement. Budget should stop renting to ICE. SunSeeker 7 hrs ago #22

KNR niyad 9 hrs ago #16

Pritzker and Johnson are making sure there's footage of ICE everywhere they go. For evidence. ancianita 9 hrs ago #17

Exactly. Nobody here is denying this happened. But we need it documented to push back on Trump's disinfo. SunSeeker 7 hrs ago #24

Well, there are witnesses. soldierant 8 hrs ago #21

Why the fuck is Chicago PD doing nothing about the theft and destruction of US citizen's property? SunSeeker 7 hrs ago #23

dalton99a

(90,477 posts)

1. Kick

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 04:13 PM

11 hrs ago

progressoid

(52,047 posts)

2. "This is what I voted for!" "Thank you ice" "America can't thank I.C.E., FBI, and Border patrol agents enough! "

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 04:35 PM

10 hrs ago

Take a look at right wing media and you'll get an idea of what the other side is seeing and saying.

John1956PA

(4,505 posts)

8. Bush 43 made a similar lie near election day in 2004.

Reply to progressoid (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:34 PM

9 hrs ago

He claimed there was a successful combat action near Fallujah, Iraq. Actually, the battle was yet be engaged. It indeed turned into a fierce battle which did not end until six weeks later.

irisblue

(36,114 posts)

11. I just finished dinner, no way am I looking those sewer sites up

Reply to progressoid (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:38 PM

9 hrs ago

dflprincess

(29,042 posts)

3. I still say using Budget & U-Haul trucks

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 04:57 PM

10 hrs ago

Has Proud Boys written all over it.

CivicGrief

(234 posts)

4. Stand back and

Reply to dflprincess (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:02 PM

10 hrs ago

stand by. (Still can’t believe this debate answer was not called out for what it was: a call to arms.)

travelingthrulife

(3,383 posts)

5. Yes. And u-haul said they would not allow this any longer.

Reply to dflprincess (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:07 PM

10 hrs ago

Hekate

(99,640 posts)

6. Do you think thugs would hesitate to lie? Could be that U Haul is being lied to by renters.

Reply to travelingthrulife (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:09 PM

10 hrs ago

SunSeeker

(56,832 posts)

25. Of course ICE lied. Now that it has been documented, Budget should never rent to ICE again. nt

Reply to Hekate (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 08:18 PM

7 hrs ago

nilram

(3,356 posts)

9. UHaul's Reservation "Advisements" tell you not to.

Reply to travelingthrulife (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:36 PM

9 hrs ago

https://www.uhaul.com/Reservations/ReservationAdvisements.aspx

Customer and any Authorized Driver shall:

Require passengers to ride only in the cab of the U-Haul Vehicle or Tow Vehicle towing any Towable Equipment;

I'm sure these guys take it seriously.

SunSeeker

(56,832 posts)

26. UHaul should never rent to ICE again for violating the rental agreement.

Reply to nilram (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 08:21 PM

7 hrs ago

Just like UHaul stopped renting to a neo-nazi group for transporting people in a UHaul.
https://www.kbtx.com/2025/05/29/u-haul-bans-white-supremacist-members-who-rented-trucks-downtown-demonstration/

orangecrush

(26,887 posts)

10. I agree

Reply to dflprincess (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:38 PM

9 hrs ago

Typical Nazi m.o.

popsdenver

(575 posts)

18. LOL

Reply to dflprincess (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:16 PM

9 hrs ago

when one shows up in a neighborhood and just has come to a stop, someone should run up and throw a padlock on the latch......

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,143 posts)

7. More

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:10 PM

10 hrs ago

orangecrush

(26,887 posts)

12. Thank you

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:38 PM

9 hrs ago

elleng

(140,920 posts)

15. U.S. Attorney General ain't worth s***.

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:46 PM

9 hrs ago

bluestarone

(20,394 posts)

13. This deserves many kicks!!

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:43 PM

9 hrs ago

Many!!

orangecrush

(26,887 posts)

20. Thank you

Reply to bluestarone (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:54 PM

8 hrs ago

SunSeeker

(56,832 posts)

14. It is illegal to transport human beings in U-haul and Budget moving trucks.

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:43 PM

9 hrs ago

https://www.illinoislegalaid.org/legal-information/can-you-ride-back-truck-or-towed-vehicle

Wednesdays

(20,865 posts)

19. Is this a case of TSF's goons riding in rental vehicles?

Reply to SunSeeker (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:43 PM

8 hrs ago

If so, when have they ever given deference to laws?

SunSeeker

(56,832 posts)

22. It also violates every truck rental agreement. Budget should stop renting to ICE.

Reply to Wednesdays (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:35 PM

7 hrs ago

UHaul stopped rending to neo-nazis when they put people in the back of their rental trucks:
“If an individual is in good standing with us, we will rent to them,” Lockridge said. “If an individual commits illegal acts using our equipment, misuses our equipment, or violates their rental contract, we reserve the right to take away their rental privileges. That happened in this instance.”
https://www.kbtx.com/2025/05/29/u-haul-bans-white-supremacist-members-who-rented-trucks-downtown-demonstration/

niyad

(127,652 posts)

16. KNR

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:04 PM

9 hrs ago

ancianita

(42,077 posts)

17. Pritzker and Johnson are making sure there's footage of ICE everywhere they go. For evidence.

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:06 PM

9 hrs ago

SunSeeker

(56,832 posts)

24. Exactly. Nobody here is denying this happened. But we need it documented to push back on Trump's disinfo.

Reply to ancianita (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:54 PM

7 hrs ago

That is Pritzker's point.

For example, this witness provided a harrowing account, but if she had videotaped it, it would have been on the evening news:

Ebony Sweets Watson, who lives across the street from the raided building, told the Chicago Sun-Times that she saw children, some of whom weren’t even wearing clothes, dragged out of the building by ICE agents and then placed into U-Haul vans.

soldierant

(8,987 posts)

21. Well, there are witnesses.

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:19 PM

8 hrs ago

https://www.wonkette.com/p/illegal-chicago-raid-makes-ice-the

SunSeeker

(56,832 posts)

23. Why the fuck is Chicago PD doing nothing about the theft and destruction of US citizen's property?

Reply to soldierant (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:40 PM

7 hrs ago

From your Wonkette link:

Jones said he entered his unit to find all of his electronics and furniture missing, and all of his clothes and shoes thrown on the floor. Jones said he had no idea who took his belongings and hadn’t received answers from Chicago police.

“I’m pissed off,” Jones said. “I feel defeated because the authorities aren’t doing anything.”

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