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Miles Archer

(20,345 posts)
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:46 AM 17 hrs ago

ICE goons in Trump's Chicago "training ground" drag naked zip-tied children from their homes

'It was heartbreaking': Naked zip-tied children dragged from homes in 'surreal' ICE raid

Just hours after Trump said U.S. soldiers should use America's cities as “training grounds,” federal law enforcement officials on Tuesday night descended upon an apartment complex in Chicago where witnesses say they broke down residents’ doors, smashed furniture and belongings, and dragged dozens of them — including children — into U-Haul vans.

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“I asked [agents] why they were holding me if I was an American citizen, and they said I had to wait until they looked me up,” he told the paper. “I asked if they had a warrant, and I asked for a lawyer. They never brought one.”

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Ebony Sweets Watson, who lives across the street from the raided building, told the Chicago Sun-Times that she saw children, some of whom weren’t even wearing clothes, dragged out of the building by ICE agents and then placed into U-Haul vans.

“It was heartbreaking to watch,” she said. “Even if you’re not a mother, seeing kids coming out buck naked and taken from their mothers, it was horrible.”
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ICE goons in Trump's Chicago "training ground" drag naked zip-tied children from their homes (Original Post) Miles Archer 17 hrs ago OP
What the fuck is it going to take to CivicGrief 17 hrs ago #1
I ask myself that every day Miles Archer 16 hrs ago #4
It will still be our fault for covering immigrants IbogaProject 16 hrs ago #18
We already know a majority are not smart Dave says 16 hrs ago #22
They'll still blame minorities and immigrants. LuvLoogie 15 hrs ago #32
Yes indeed and sadly so many in the middle moniss 16 hrs ago #6
A third of the US is ok with this markodochartaigh 16 hrs ago #8
but but but ...Joe Biden and LyfeTimeDem 16 hrs ago #21
90% Cirsium 16 hrs ago #23
I've stopped reading comments on videos of egregious ICE assaults... mike_c 16 hrs ago #24
If we ever get out of this... Initech 14 hrs ago #38
Madness! yellow dahlia 10 hrs ago #53
The majority of people don't give a shit ramapo 5 hrs ago #57
This traumatic experience will tramatize them for the rest of their life. TommieMommy 16 hrs ago #2
No Greg_In_SF 16 hrs ago #3
I found many corroborating articles online. CivicGrief 16 hrs ago #9
Anything beyond Greg_In_SF 16 hrs ago #11
You have fingers? Katcat 16 hrs ago #17
Actually, I have ten of them Greg_In_SF 16 hrs ago #20
I don't think that "giving benefit of doubt" was the purpose or had KPN 14 hrs ago #41
Videos would help the general public realize what is really happening. synni 10 hrs ago #55
Why do you want to see naked children being traumatized? Blues Heron 16 hrs ago #10
I simply Greg_In_SF 16 hrs ago #12
Here you go. 1WorldHope 14 hrs ago #44
No naked children in that, nor in this 20 minute video from the scene: MineralMan 13 hrs ago #46
Most of that is either far away street scenes, or interviewing Gregory Bovino, ICE agent nilram 10 hrs ago #52
That video shows Greg_In_SF 13 hrs ago #47
What part of naked children not being put on YouTube don't you understand? 1WorldHope 12 hrs ago #48
So Greg_In_SF 11 hrs ago #50
Until this is broadcast on National news dweller 16 hrs ago #5
Was in the news business (newspaper and NPR) and I hope principles in this allegorical oracle 16 hrs ago #16
Are they being trained to answer "I was just following orders" when they're being tried for their crimes? Ping Tung 16 hrs ago #7
Besides breaking down everyone's doors and holding numerous US citizens in custody for hours, Jack Valentino 16 hrs ago #13
EVERYONE... GiqueCee 16 hrs ago #14
Here is the Chicago Sun Times story: progressoid 16 hrs ago #15
Fascism is here. CaptainTruth 16 hrs ago #19
"Naked zip-tied children" Now we know what the new WH ballroom is for. n/t flvegan 16 hrs ago #25
I hope Jesse Welles writes a Song about this Nictuku 2 hrs ago #60
This is why I've been saying...this government has declared WAR ON ITS CITIZENS... MiHale 15 hrs ago #26
What does Trump think about naked children? usonian 15 hrs ago #27
I strongly recommend watching... róisín_dubh 15 hrs ago #28
Terrible Things Johnny2X2X 15 hrs ago #29
Where is a cop when you need one? randr 15 hrs ago #30
Thom Hartmann just covered this story on his radio show. rubbersole 15 hrs ago #31
we are the tyranny of evil men North Coast Lawyer 15 hrs ago #33
They need product for their child sex trafficking ring. How utterly disgusting! Clouds Passing 15 hrs ago #34
Disappointing that there's no video or pictures of the ICE rampage. SunSeeker 14 hrs ago #35
Using Uhauls? dflprincess 14 hrs ago #36
A decades long multi billion dollar brainwashing operation mn9driver 14 hrs ago #37
And this is all being ordered by a 34-count convicted criminal Blue Owl 14 hrs ago #39
Who sre these people that would do this?...nt Figarosmom 14 hrs ago #40
Your neighbors and family members, if they feel they've been slighted or disrespected. haele 12 hrs ago #49
That find republican Gestapo. republianmushroom 14 hrs ago #42
They need to be arrested for child photography. ASAP Maraya1969 14 hrs ago #43
These pigs need to suffer consequences JoseBalow 14 hrs ago #45
Hey QAnons! We found your Deep State pedo sex traffickers! Right over here! RockRaven 11 hrs ago #51
I hope people documented it with their phones. yellow dahlia 10 hrs ago #54
Terrorists are invading American cities Martin Eden 10 hrs ago #56
this is pure evil LymphocyteLover 5 hrs ago #58
Exactly. And evil for evil's sake. B.See 5 hrs ago #59

CivicGrief

(234 posts)
1. What the fuck is it going to take to
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:50 AM
17 hrs ago

wake the majority of people the fuck up! This is madness on full display.

Miles Archer

(20,345 posts)
4. I ask myself that every day
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:56 AM
16 hrs ago

I think people are going to have to be personally and dramatically hurt by Trump before any of this matters to them.

Things like people walking up one day and finding out that they no longer have healthcare. Even that won't matter much to people who see their doctor once a year with a case of the sniffles. But for people receiving ongoing treatment for a condition or illness, it will matter to them.

And when it happens, and the backlash comes, Trump will post AI videos blaming Biden for all of it.

THEN we'll find out how smart America is. Or not.

IbogaProject

(5,061 posts)
18. It will still be our fault for covering immigrants
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:36 PM
16 hrs ago

Even if the hospitals & clinics treating the undocumented came together during Reagan-Bush terms.

moniss

(8,135 posts)
6. Yes indeed and sadly so many in the middle
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:02 PM
16 hrs ago

who could really have an impact just sit on the sidelines with their heads down and pretend it's not happening.

markodochartaigh

(4,221 posts)
8. A third of the US is ok with this
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:05 PM
16 hrs ago

or at least they are willing to ignore it if it is done by their side.
And a third of the US is opposed to it.
As to what it will take for a majority of the ignorant and apathetic third of the US to wake up, they will wake up when it affects them personally. But just because they wake doesn't automatically mean that they will understand what is wrong or what needs to be done about it. If they haven't been following how we got here, they will be easy victims to reich-wing propaganda.
That's one reason why it is so important for Democratic politicians, and everyone on the left, to keep up efforts to educate those who aren't already awake.

LyfeTimeDem

(133 posts)
21. but but but ...Joe Biden and
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:41 PM
16 hrs ago

Kamala Harris "just weren't good enough" for some people

Even though she warned us this would happen...

Cirsium

(2,926 posts)
23. 90%
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:47 PM
16 hrs ago

90% are OK with this.

Waiting for the MAGA voters to "wake up" is a fool's errand. The rest of us could shut this all down pretty quickly - that is, if we really are not OK with it.

mike_c

(36,774 posts)
24. I've stopped reading comments on videos of egregious ICE assaults...
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:49 PM
16 hrs ago

...because of all the boneheads responding "this is exactly what I voted for."

Initech

(106,446 posts)
38. If we ever get out of this...
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 01:57 PM
14 hrs ago

Every single motherfucker at the Heritage Foundation who made this Project 2025 bullshit happen, needs to be arrested and charged with high crimes and conspiracy to commit treason against the United States. Fuck the Heritage Foundation, fuck Project 2025, fuck Tom Homan. May they all rot in the hottest of hells for the absolute horror show they have wrought on society.

ramapo

(4,772 posts)
57. The majority of people don't give a shit
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:59 PM
5 hrs ago

Remember Sandy Hook.

Children blown to bits.

Apathy won.

CivicGrief

(234 posts)
9. I found many corroborating articles online.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:18 PM
16 hrs ago

It’s nice you want to give this sadistic administration the benefit of the doubt.

Greg_In_SF

(618 posts)
11. Anything beyond
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:26 PM
16 hrs ago

statements by neighbors? Surely there would be some photos or video to back up the story.

Greg_In_SF

(618 posts)
20. Actually, I have ten of them
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:38 PM
16 hrs ago

I have found only two links to the story, both providing only statements from neighbors.

KPN

(16,936 posts)
41. I don't think that "giving benefit of doubt" was the purpose or had
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 02:14 PM
14 hrs ago

anything to do with it. I‘m quite sure the Greg from SF is appalled and angry about every event like this. But corroborating evidence is important, both from the standpoint of credibility and potential future legal action against the perpetrators. So I understand and appreciate the question .

synni

(570 posts)
55. Videos would help the general public realize what is really happening.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:05 PM
10 hrs ago

Any decent person would be appalled by watching innocent people, including children, being dragged into U-Haul vans.

Greg_In_SF

(618 posts)
12. I simply
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:27 PM
16 hrs ago

want to know if the story is true or not. Sounds a little fishy to me. That's all.

MineralMan

(149,849 posts)
46. No naked children in that, nor in this 20 minute video from the scene:
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 02:55 PM
13 hrs ago


See, there is live evidence, which needs to be seen to understand whether the stories are accurat or not. So far, the evidence dos not show any children at all, much less unclothed children. So, no evidence, no belief from me.

nilram

(3,356 posts)
52. Most of that is either far away street scenes, or interviewing Gregory Bovino, ICE agent
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:51 PM
10 hrs ago

about why it's necessary and how it went. Very little of the actual operation or the people affected. They claim the 300 federal agents were necessary. There's not nearly enough video to cover the actions of those 300.

There are so many other abhorrent actions that are easily verified; I don't get why you're focusing on an eyewitness report of naked children.

Greg_In_SF

(618 posts)
47. That video shows
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 03:09 PM
13 hrs ago

absolutely nothing that is claimed in the article.

If ICE was dragging naked zip-tied children through the streets, this would be the biggest news story of the year. I'm calling bullshit for now. There is absolutely no evidence that happened.

1WorldHope

(1,667 posts)
48. What part of naked children not being put on YouTube don't you understand?
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 04:29 PM
12 hrs ago

Are witnesses not enough? Why won't you believe them?

Greg_In_SF

(618 posts)
50. So
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:17 PM
11 hrs ago

one or two people say something and you automatically believe them? I'm still calling bullshit.

And who ever said anything about putting it on YouTube?

dweller

(27,234 posts)
5. Until this is broadcast on National news
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:58 AM
16 hrs ago

(Yeh right) and the public views this happening , nothing will change .

☹️


✌🏻

allegorical oracle

(5,756 posts)
16. Was in the news business (newspaper and NPR) and I hope principles in this
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:36 PM
16 hrs ago

contact major media about this. As much as I admire Miles Archer, it feels fact-flimsy.

Ping Tung

(3,776 posts)
7. Are they being trained to answer "I was just following orders" when they're being tried for their crimes?
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:03 PM
16 hrs ago

Jack Valentino

(3,419 posts)
13. Besides breaking down everyone's doors and holding numerous US citizens in custody for hours,
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:29 PM
16 hrs ago

they also apparently STOLE stuff while ransacking the building! ICE has become nothing but a bunch of kidnappers, hooligans and THIEVES!
They are FUCKING CRIMINALS and ought to be in jail!


From https://www.commondreams.org/news/ice-raid-chicago-apartment

Watson also said that it appeared the federal agents had ransacked the building during the raid.

“Stuff was everywhere,” she said. “You could see people’s birth certificates, and papers thrown all over. Water was leaking into the hallway. It was wicked crazy.”

Dan Jones, a resident at the building, told the Chicago Sun-Times that he returned from work on Wednesday to find that several of his belongings, including electronics and furniture, were missing from his apartment, and that all of his clothes had been strewn across the floor. He said that he asked the Chicago Police Department for any information about what happened to his belongings in the wake of the ICE raid, but has so far received no response.

“I’m pissed off,” Jones told the paper. “I feel defeated because the authorities aren’t doing anything.”

GiqueCee

(2,862 posts)
14. EVERYONE...
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:32 PM
16 hrs ago

... associated with this obscene travesty, from Miller and Noem on down to the lowest gargoyle in the ICE hierarchy, are psychotic monsters that belong in prison for the rest of their evil lives.

progressoid

(52,047 posts)
15. Here is the Chicago Sun Times story:
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:34 PM
16 hrs ago
The Department of Homeland Security said federal agents with Border Patrol, the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives arrested 37 people in the raid.

...Armed federal agents in military fatigues busted down their doors overnight, pulling men, women and children from their apartments, some of them naked, residents and witnesses said. Agents approached or entered nearly every apartment in the five-story building, and U.S. citizens were among those detained for hours.

When he got home from work, Jones said he entered his unit to find all of his electronics and furniture missing, and all of his clothes and shoes thrown on the floor. Jones said he had no idea who took his belongings and hadn’t received answers from Chicago police.

“I’m pissed off,” Jones said. “I feel defeated because the authorities aren’t doing anything.”

On Wednesday, toys, shoes and food were still in piles in the building’s hallways. Property managers were seen throwing mattresses and broken doors into dumpsters...

https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2025/10/01/massive-immigration-raid-on-chicago-apartment-building-leaves-residents-reeling-i-feel-defeated

Nictuku

(4,376 posts)
60. I hope Jesse Welles writes a Song about this
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 01:57 AM
2 hrs ago

To me, he is a voice that is needed. He is the modern day Bob Dylan. He wrote a song about Tylenol the other day.

Here are his songs on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jesse+welles

And here is a link to his Tylenol song just the other day:



Every Voice screaming out about how wrong everything this administration is doing is needed. I heard an interview with him and he does keep up with current events and often writes songs about them.

MiHale

(12,190 posts)
26. This is why I've been saying...this government has declared WAR ON ITS CITIZENS...
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:50 PM
15 hrs ago

not many other ways of viewing it.

róisín_dubh

(12,144 posts)
28. I strongly recommend watching...
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:53 PM
15 hrs ago

Men With Guns (Hombres armados).
It’s poignant in that people will look at every other thing instead of what’s right in front of them and justify every horror away 6 ways from Sunday.
We don’t have to ask about the good Germans. This happens in every society that has been fundamentally broken.

Johnny2X2X

(23,459 posts)
29. Terrible Things
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:56 PM
15 hrs ago

"“Terrible things are happening outside. At any time of night and day, poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. " Anne Frank

The media is controlled by the same billionaires who have installed Trump to go after working people. If the media wasn't, this raid and anti-American horror would be leading every broadcast for weeks.

They're beating, terrorizing, and humiliating children.

rubbersole

(10,642 posts)
31. Thom Hartmann just covered this story on his radio show.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 01:15 PM
15 hrs ago

We are in a police state. Protest while you still can.

North Coast Lawyer

(193 posts)
33. we are the tyranny of evil men
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 01:27 PM
15 hrs ago

We have lots any and all moral authority we may have possessed. Never again will America be able to call out human rights abuses without foreign perpetrators laughing in our face.

SunSeeker

(56,837 posts)
35. Disappointing that there's no video or pictures of the ICE rampage.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 01:51 PM
14 hrs ago

This brutality should be on the front page of every newspaper, but with no pictures of video, it gets buried. That's why Governor Pritzker urged everyone to use their cell phones to document everything.

dflprincess

(29,042 posts)
36. Using Uhauls?
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 01:52 PM
14 hrs ago

That's Proud Boy crap. If this were legitimate vans or bases would be used.

Uhaul needs to be careful about who they tent to.

mn9driver

(4,781 posts)
37. A decades long multi billion dollar brainwashing operation
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 01:54 PM
14 hrs ago

has divided the country into two different groups:

Those who have become addicted to the fear/anger dopamine hits they get from the agitprop channels, and those who have not.

haele

(14,671 posts)
49. Your neighbors and family members, if they feel they've been slighted or disrespected.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 04:44 PM
12 hrs ago

Why are there bullies?
It no longer makes genetic sense to still have that much aggression, selfishness, or fear - but as a species, we still feed on each other when we get that spurt of adrenaline.

RockRaven

(18,098 posts)
51. Hey QAnons! We found your Deep State pedo sex traffickers! Right over here!
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:31 PM
11 hrs ago

QAnons? Hello? Where'd you go?

yellow dahlia

(3,245 posts)
54. I hope people documented it with their phones.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:00 PM
10 hrs ago

Seems like Pritzger anticipated it would get bad. In his speech the other day, he warned people and told to bear witness.

But I bet he couldn't even imagine how bad - dragging unclothed children out of their homes. Ransacking peoples' homes. We used to the say, the cruelty if the point. The terror is the point.

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