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Conjuay

(2,715 posts)
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 09:56 AM 17 hrs ago

I thought this was a very valid point:

Found on Bluesky:

"So if we can just cancel funding / projects that have already been Congressionally approved and appropriated,
What's the point of negotiating?

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I thought this was a very valid point: (Original Post) Conjuay 17 hrs ago OP
Many years ago my then rep told me that he was in favor of a bill to give rurallib 17 hrs ago #1
Mighty good point. calimary 16 hrs ago #5
well.... poozwah 16 hrs ago #6
Exactly Rebl2 16 hrs ago #13
LOL even more stupid popsdenver 14 hrs ago #19
For that matter - what is the shutdown all about ? dweller 16 hrs ago #2
The shut down is a way to fire more federal workers. And terrorize everyone. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #10
But they do that anyway dweller 16 hrs ago #12
This was a new opportunity to commit crimes. Irish_Dem 16 hrs ago #14
And we may ask "what's the point of Congress and Article I?" Redleg 16 hrs ago #3
Blue states must withdraw their federal government funding, now! Clouds Passing 16 hrs ago #4
But... how? caraher 16 hrs ago #8
It doesn't. Payroll taxes are FoxNewsSucks 15 hrs ago #17
IDK but they need to figure out a way yesterday. Clouds Passing 16 hrs ago #9
Yes popsdenver 14 hrs ago #21
They don't need Congress angrychair 16 hrs ago #7
Good point RogueRocket 16 hrs ago #11
As opposed to what? Cirsium 14 hrs ago #20
Short of some miracle popsdenver 14 hrs ago #23
Why would you negotiate with a CROOK? BurnDoubt 16 hrs ago #15
Very true 👍 TommieMommy 15 hrs ago #16
That's autocracy Joinfortmill 15 hrs ago #18
never negotiate with terrorists North Coast Lawyer 14 hrs ago #22

rurallib

(64,197 posts)
1. Many years ago my then rep told me that he was in favor of a bill to give
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:08 AM
17 hrs ago

the president a line item veto.
"Well, then what is congress going to do? If the president can just write his own budget, what are you guys going to do?"

Congress's one big power is the purse. If the president can just spend or not spend money as he wants, what is their function?

poozwah

(364 posts)
6. well....
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:40 AM
16 hrs ago

the republicans view congress as a legitimizing entity used to rubber stamp trump’s authoritarianism. it has become little more than a corrupt money gathering institution which is subservient to the wealthy and only pretends to pay attention to us during election cycles. citizen’s united has destroyed our nation.

Rebl2

(17,043 posts)
13. Exactly
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:01 AM
16 hrs ago

Republicans are letting him do this, not lifting a finger to stop him. So why bother having congress and senate.

popsdenver

(575 posts)
19. LOL even more stupid
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:35 PM
14 hrs ago

are the Republican U.S. House Members, the U.S. Republican Senators, and the Republican U.S. Supreme Court Justices.......

They are all just as massively delusional as Trump Inc., to think that there is a Judicial Branch, and a Legislative Branch of government in
a Dictatorship/Tyranny.............

dweller

(27,234 posts)
2. For that matter - what is the shutdown all about ?
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:37 AM
16 hrs ago

The repugs could just agree to funding Medicaid and ACA funding and pass the bill. … and Pisswig could let Vought eliminate it from funding .
Is it all kabuki ?

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dweller

(27,234 posts)
12. But they do that anyway
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:00 AM
16 hrs ago

From the beginning with doge … and the repugs have always acted as a terrorist organization
Only purpose of the shutdown is to point a finger at Dems while repugs screw everyone


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Redleg

(6,640 posts)
3. And we may ask "what's the point of Congress and Article I?"
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:38 AM
16 hrs ago

Trump does not negotiate in good faith.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,326 posts)
17. It doesn't. Payroll taxes are
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:17 PM
15 hrs ago

sent directly to the IRS by employers. I would assume other federal taxes collected by retailers and other businesses are also sent directly to the federal government.

popsdenver

(575 posts)
21. Yes
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:39 PM
14 hrs ago

without all the blue states money, Trump Inc. would have no money to send to the 30+? Red states that receive far more money, than they ever send in to the Feds........

RogueRocket

(12 posts)
11. Good point
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:54 AM
16 hrs ago

This is a great point and I agree but do we just keep the government closed until Trump agrees to conditions that stop him from doing that?

popsdenver

(575 posts)
23. Short of some miracle
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:44 PM
14 hrs ago

it seems we are destined to either Martial Law, or another Civil War..............Either way is fine with these quasi RepubliCONS.........

BurnDoubt

(1,072 posts)
15. Why would you negotiate with a CROOK?
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:25 AM
16 hrs ago

Trump has lied and cheated every day of his life.
McConnell STOLE two Supreme Court appointments and destroyed our Government.
They are entirely untrustworthy.

North Coast Lawyer

(193 posts)
22. never negotiate with terrorists
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 12:41 PM
14 hrs ago

Not negotiating with terrorists has been America's standard procedure. No reason to deviate from this maxim when dealing with an internal threat.

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