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tblue37

(67,204 posts) Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:17 PM Monday

Bill Kristol: "The point to be transmitted . . . is "This is Donald Trump's military.'"

https://web-cdn.bsky.app/profile/billkristolbulwark.bsky.social/post/3lzvrf3lni22y

"Trump will be the headliner at Tuesday’s show. Hegseth will be the undercard.

The point to be transmitted to the assembled generals, to all their troops watching at home and abroad, and to the American people, will be this: This is Donald Trump’s military."

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Bill Kristol: "The point to be transmitted . . . is "This is Donald Trump's military.'" (Original Post) tblue37 Monday OP

Once again, TSF thinks something that belongs to American citizens is his personal property. Prof. Toru Tanaka Monday #1

Trump once said he wants the kind of generals Hitler had. tblue37 Monday #2

He does realize that Hitler's generals served a loser and lost a war. Efilroft Sul Monday #3

A great deal of that was because Hitler fired all of the good generals... Wounded Bear Monday #13

You mean, ones that lose a world war... regnaD kciN Monday #4

Trump: "I Need the Kind of Generals That Hitler Had' MrWowWow Monday #5

Maybe he'll get them! 2naSalit Monday #6

I loved it when Gen. Milley or another general Ilsa Monday #18

Trump thinks these are generals & admirals from other countries! tblue37 Monday #7

Knowing that they are physically located all over the world does not mean he thinks they belong to other countries. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Monday #9

This sentence suggests that he thinks they are from other countries: tblue37 Monday #10

It can be read that way, and it is possible, but I think unlikely even for the Imbecile-in-Chief. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Monday #11

I think it sounds just like his mush-mind's way of thinking. tblue37 Monday #14

Exactly. Orange mush up there. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Monday #15

That's the point they want promoted, but it is not clear that it IS "his". Bernardo de La Paz Monday #8

Bill Kristol: "The point will be a propaganda spectacle for their troops and the public." tblue37 Monday #12

Bill Kristol is on point about this: tblue37 Monday #16

Bill Kristol lefthandedskyhook Monday #17

True--many of the Never Trump conservatives were very, very wrong, but they are now fighting the good tblue37 Monday #20

Correct. choie Monday #19

That is exactly correct misanthrope Monday #21

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,803 posts)

1. Once again, TSF thinks something that belongs to American citizens is his personal property.

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:22 PM

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tblue37

(67,204 posts)

2. Trump once said he wants the kind of generals Hitler had.

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:25 PM

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Efilroft Sul

(4,183 posts)

3. He does realize that Hitler's generals served a loser and lost a war.

Reply to tblue37 (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:27 PM

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Wounded Bear

(63,070 posts)

13. A great deal of that was because Hitler fired all of the good generals...

Reply to Efilroft Sul (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:57 PM

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or almost all of them.

One could argue that Germany would have lost anyway, but Hitler's firing of generals and incessant meddling in strategy and tactics definitely sped the process up.

regnaD kciN

(27,313 posts)

4. You mean, ones that lose a world war...

Reply to tblue37 (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:27 PM

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…because they let their incompetent Führer overrule them on military strategy?

MrWowWow

(1,393 posts)

5. Trump: "I Need the Kind of Generals That Hitler Had'

Reply to tblue37 (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:30 PM

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Trump: "I Need the Kind of Generals That Hitler Had"

— The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-generals-hitler/680327/

Trump said Hitler ‘did some good things’ and wanted generals like the Nazis, former chief of staff Kelly claims

— PBS NewsHour
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-said-hitler-did-some-good-things-and-wanted-generals-like-the-nazis-former-chief-of-staff-kelly-claims

Trump Attacks The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg Over Hitler

— The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-attacks-atlantics-jeffrey-goldberg-over-hitler/680422

2naSalit

(97,917 posts)

6. Maybe he'll get them!

Reply to tblue37 (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:32 PM

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Ilsa

(63,350 posts)

18. I loved it when Gen. Milley or another general

Reply to tblue37 (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 08:35 PM

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told trump that some of Hitler's generals tried to kill him. Big surprise to the orange fascist.

tblue37

(67,204 posts)

7. Trump thinks these are generals & admirals from other countries!

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:32 PM

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https://web-cdn.bsky.app/profile/jozienty.bsky.social/post/3lzw3pjprok2b

From the NYT:

Mr. Trump appeared unfamiliar with the meeting when he was asked about it during an Oval Office appearance on Thursday, but he quickly said it was good that Mr. Hegseth had organized it.

“Let him be friendly with the generals and admirals from all over the world,” Mr. Trump said. “You act like this is a bad thing. Isn’t it nice that people are coming from all over the world to be with us?”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/28/us/politics/trump-hegseth-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.pU8.y92V.W8Qn4iATPi4p&smid=url-share

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,968 posts)

9. Knowing that they are physically located all over the world does not mean he thinks they belong to other countries. . nt

Reply to tblue37 (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:35 PM

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tblue37

(67,204 posts)

10. This sentence suggests that he thinks they are from other countries:

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:43 PM

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"Let him be friendly with the generals and admirals from all over the world,” Mr. Trump said. “You act like this is a bad thing. Isn’t it nice that people are coming from all over the world to be with us?”

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,968 posts)

11. It can be read that way, and it is possible, but I think unlikely even for the Imbecile-in-Chief. . . . nt

Reply to tblue37 (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:45 PM

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tblue37

(67,204 posts)

14. I think it sounds just like his mush-mind's way of thinking.

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:58 PM

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Bernardo de La Paz

(58,968 posts)

15. Exactly. Orange mush up there. . . . . nt

Reply to tblue37 (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:59 PM

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Bernardo de La Paz

(58,968 posts)

8. That's the point they want promoted, but it is not clear that it IS "his".

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:34 PM

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Might be loosely his for the time being, but we'll see what their limits are if there are more developments.

Military leaders voice concern over Hegseth's new Pentagon strategy

Source: Washington Post
September 29, 2025 at 6:58 p.m. EDT

Military leaders have raised serious concerns with the Trump administration’s forthcoming defense strategy, exposing a divide between the Pentagon’s political and uniformed leadership as Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth summons top brass to a highly unusual summit in Virginia on Tuesday, according to eight current and former officials.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&post&forum=1014&pid=3539359

tblue37

(67,204 posts)

12. Bill Kristol: "The point will be a propaganda spectacle for their troops and the public."

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:55 PM

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https://web-cdn.bsky.app/profile/billkristolbulwark.bsky.social/post/3lzqmigsrdk2f

Two points on Tuesday's Quantico conclave of the generals:

1. Surely Trump will be featured. Hegseth will be the undercard.

2. The point will be to showcase Trump's power. It won't be to convince the generals of anything. The point will be a propaganda spectacle for their troops and the public.

tblue37

(67,204 posts)

16. Bill Kristol is on point about this:

Reply to tblue37 (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 08:04 PM

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"Strengthening our national defense is not the point of the gathering [of the generals]. The point is "the optics of power.” And not the optics of American power. The point is the optics of Donald Trump' power.

https://web-cdn.bsky.app/profile/billkristolbulwark.bsky.social/post/3lzqlsg27p22b