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bigtree

(92,769 posts) Mon Sep 29, 2025, 06:52 PM Monday

WH and party reject Dem efforts to make deals on health benefits extension and limits on presidential budget rescissions

Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) said a rift is emerging between President Trump and GOP leaders in Congress about whether to use a short-term government funding bill to prevent health insurance premiums from soaring next year because of the expiration of enhanced subsidies at the end of this year.

“The particular focus was on health care. When we made these arguments it was clear there was a division or possible division between the president and the two Republican leaders,” Schumer said, referring to Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) and Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.).

Schumer met with Trump, Thune, Johnson and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) at the White House on Monday afternoon to discuss government funding, which is set to expire at 11:59 p.m. Tuesday. Democrats are demanding an extension of the enhanced health insurance subsidies, as well as other health care provisions, in exchange for their votes to keep the government open.

Schumer said he and Jeffries emphasized both the impending expiration of health care subsidies under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and the problem of pocket rescissions and impoundments, which they view as attempts to usurp congressional spending authority.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/schumer-trump-gop-leaders-are-divided-over-health-insurance-subsidies-in-funding-bill/ar-AA1NxVoM

...don't go to sleep on the way Schumer is working republican divisions within their own party over the health care and other cuts in their budget.

And don't fall for the republican okey-doke.

...look how sweaty Thune is here:

“I think Schumer is desperate to change the subject. I don’t know what he’s talking about. I mean we’re all on the same page,” Thune said as he walked into his office after a vote late Monday afternoon.

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WH and party reject Dem efforts to make deals on health benefits extension and limits on presidential budget rescissions (Original Post) bigtree Monday OP

Republicans are in shock Dems might actually not cave to their demands. bucolic_frolic Monday #1

Republicans want to cut your healthcare so badly they'll shut down the government to do it!! pat_k Monday #2

heh bigtree Monday #3

Good to see! pat_k Monday #5

good coordination bigtree Monday #6

It is also why the majority party generally does not shove... pat_k Monday #4

if we could get as much support behind our leaders advocating for OUR interests bigtree Monday #7

bucolic_frolic

(52,556 posts)

1. Republicans are in shock Dems might actually not cave to their demands.

Reply to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 06:58 PM

Monday

Republicans have no comeback but blame and shame. Republicans have to make the deals to pass legislation. Compromise, trade-offs, concessions. That's the way Congress works. Horse trading of differing interests. GOP is trying to have their dictatorship and not be responsible for it. Have their cake and eat it too.

pat_k

(11,954 posts)

2. Republicans want to cut your healthcare so badly they'll shut down the government to do it!!

Reply to bucolic_frolic (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:06 PM

Monday

Fewer words Chuck!!

Keep it simple.

All of us need to be saying the same things over, and over, and over, until we are sick of hearing ourselves say them. And then say them some more.

Only then do we, and our electeds, have a shot at breaking through.

Great messaging guidance from Tamara Massengale Miro @UnmuteAlabama (with some additions from Anat Shenker Osario) here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220675016

bigtree

(92,769 posts)

3. heh

Reply to pat_k (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:23 PM

Monday

Chuck Schumer @SenSchumer
This shutdown is in Trump’s hands.

He admitted in the room today that the president gets the blame for a shutdown.

Americans are facing a crisis of rising health care costs. If the government shuts down, it’s because Republicans would rather shut it down rather than help people afford health care.

Chuck Schumer @SenSchumer
Republican Senators, Representatives, and even Donald Trump are feeling the heat to do something about the horrible health care crisis they’ve created.

Igor Bobic @igorbobic
Schumer: "They felt the heat. And they now want to sit down. The fundamental question hasn't been answered yet. Are they serious about negotiating with us in a real way?"

pat_k

(11,954 posts)

5. Good to see!

Reply to bigtree (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:41 PM

Monday

And Obama said something along the same lines:

Republicans would rather shut down the government than help millions of Americans afford health care. This article tells some of their stories, and is a good reminder of whatâ€™s at stake.
— Barack Obama (@barackobama.bsky.social) 2025-09-28T16:02:02.500Z

I still prefer the more colloquial "so badly" statement, but that may be asking too much.

bigtree

(92,769 posts)

6. good coordination

Reply to pat_k (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:58 PM

Monday

...great minds!

pat_k

(11,954 posts)

4. It is also why the majority party generally does not shove...

Reply to bucolic_frolic (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 29, 2025, 07:33 PM

Monday

... reconciliation bills down the throats of the minority party in the first place. When a party knows they are gonna need minority party votes to actually IMPLEMENT the spending side of the bill, they make deals in advance. It is political idiocy not to.

And even worse, when they actually came to an agreement on a CR in March that included USAID, VOA, and PBS/Public Radio, they turned around and violated the agreement with their recission package.

You keep pulling bait and switch and generally keep steamrolling the minority party, don't be surprised when they stand up and say NO MORE.

bigtree

(92,769 posts)

7. if we could get as much support behind our leaders advocating for OUR interests