It’s perhaps our greatest weakness.

Putting country about party.

I don't believe Schumer is capable of seeing that, at this point.

Assuming the source is accurate, of course

I think "cave" is too harsh a word for that under those circumstances. However something meaningful would need to come out of intense negotiations. No further delays, period. 7 days is more than time enough under any good faith scenario.

Therein lies the rub.

Trump is not going to back down, we all know it. What is the point?

It's what they do.

among the party and I cannot imagine in my wildest dreams anything actually changing with Trump or his GOP lackeys. So what is the point?

IMO, shut it down and keep it shut down until hell freezes over. Fight, Fight, Fight.

to make your views known: https://www.schumer.senate.gov/contact/message-chuck

I sent him a pretty direct letter
on never caving to a bully,
standing strong.

...republicans have control over ALL branches of government.

What exactly do you think is goinbg to happen after we vote to shut the government down?Is the position here that we shouldn't talk to the president or republicans to try and get our health care benefits extended?

What kind of politics is this when people are attacking the ones actually working to claw back the republican budget for demanding a seat at the table and to make their proposals in person alongside of the republican leaders?

How the fuck is demanding an extension on health care subsidies caving? And how the fuck does yelling at people trying to make that happen help ANYONE?

I mean, what the fuck is the motivation here? DO ANY OF THE PEOPLE CRITICIZING THIS EFFORT GET HEALTH CARE SUBSIDES UNDER THE ACA?

How do you folks railing against Chuck plan to get those extended? Or is that just not something you were thinking about or none of your concern?

as he did last time. Shut it down, let the GOP deal with the problem. This is what the voters wanted and this is what they will get. Stand up to the dumbest people and biggest bullies on the planet. They are making America a laughingstock around the world - they own it.

Thoughts and prayers.....☮

...so what the fuck is this about anyway?

We 'walk away' when the voting is done, and since there's no deal, and no extension save the suggestion by Schumer, the shutdown is still on.

Why represent this as anything else, and why expect our leaders to not come to the actual table and make their demands. After all, this is really the FIRST time republicans even let Democrats in on discussions anywhere on this budget.

What's the actual cave in what occurred today? Nothing was agreed to by anyone, and it looks like the shutdown is still on the way.

If there is an extension it will be at the behest of the Dem leaders proposal and it will be the WH and republicans caving because they;re spooked about their own cuts and their own constituents.

And what do people who don't need health subsidies care that he's working to get the extension included?

And what do people care that he's demanding changes in the way presidents can claw back money Congress approved?

I mean, what the hell are we fighting for? It's as if people yelling at him can't make their way to the things he's trying to negotiate. Do they care about the benefits?

Do they care about any of the fucking cuts? I want to know, because, it looks like all critics care about is bashing our own leaders for trying here.

because we basically have little or nothing we can do about any of these wacky things. I know I find it hard to believe that so many of my neighbors, my friends, my family supports these nasty bastards but it is real and I honestly think that regardless of what we do or don't do will change that...at least not until the mid-terms at the earliest. The anti-immigrant, anti-everything and everyone other than white "conservatives" is not the kind of America I want. Add in the push to bring in religion into the mix and this is where we are now.

I hope we allow the government to shut down and then let the chips fall where they may. Time to end this charade.

Without allowing the GOP to pass their punishing budget, is not a cave.

It's what he does, being stuck in
the old guard ways.

is the definition of insanity.

...everyone should take notice how much this screed is focused against the Dem leader and not on the health benefits that millions of us rely on to survive he's advocating for.

There's also a demand that republicans agree to limits on the president's ability to interrupt or cancel out funding approved by Congress. (I'd bet a paycheck that people hollering at the Dem leader don't know aquat about that or any of the other demands).

Schumer is fighting for those priorities, not this petty political fighting that characterizes ALL of the objection here to this reasonable, and normal in any other world, attempt to lay out DEMOCRATIC party priorities in a republican majority budget.

How is this any different from the negotiations that would follow a shutdown, which is still more than likely to occur because of republican intransigence?

What the did you expect to happen after the shutdown? For republicans to curl in a ball and fold just because government isn't doing the things they didn't want it to in the first place?

ANY political protest needs to have a legislative goal attached, or else it's just volume and agitation to no effect at all in the end.

Been watching the news and there is scant reporting on it.

...just the Dem leader wedging and tweaking republicans on healthcare benefits and their own branch's budget priorities vs the Executive.

Thune said he was open to health care legislation similar to what Schumer wanted but not in this budget.

Whatever happened, the cave was in the republicans and the WH agreeing to a meeting they said all week wasn't going to happen signaling their own nervousness about their own budget.

Whatever that means , for the atheists among us.

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there would not be an extension.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143539378

So who is lying.

Is still allowed and current. Schumer probably got backlash for floating this shit so its good we show the leadership when we disagree, no?

I guess the sources were wrong, which seems to be a recurring thing now.

You might consider deleting:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143539378

Schumer says he will not support 7- or 10-day stopgap to avoid shutdown

Means he can be pushed by the base. And I will push every chance I get. And I won’t remove my opinion because people feel I should. That’s something MAGA does.

He didn't cave.

That’s why we are here.