About the bullets at the Kirk event.

do Mormons believe in Jesus?

At one time a lot of Christan sects had battles with Mormons, they do seem to have made peace however.

Kinda think they believe in Jesus.

They just added some wrinkles to his story such as he visited America after his Resurrection and you can be saved after you die.

by a lot of mainstream Christians. They believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three distinct beings, and that the Father and Jesus have perfected, glorified, physical bodies, while the Holy Ghost is a spirit without a physical body. This is contrary to the Nicene Creed, which avoids claims of polytheism by decreeing that the Trinity is a single entity with three aspects. They also believe that there are other gods and goddesses, such as a Heavenly Mother—who is married to God the Father—and that they can attain "godhood" in the afterlife. Joseph Smith taught that God was once a man on another planet before being exalted to Godhood.

In retrospect a lot of religions wear special garments. They just wear them over their clothes .

I've always wondered about the beliefs and you explained it very well. Thank you.

I seem to recall something happening yesterday, but damned if I can remember what it was.

And the story was prominent for weeks?

Out of respect for the families.

And to prevent anti-gun sentiment from rising up and the guns being taken away.

Mormons supported Trump by around a 2 to 1 margin in 2024.

If I had to speculate, I might assume that this attack was motivated by something personal, not political.

I've been seeing some things about him believing that the Mormon church was the Antichrist.

That was my first thought when I heard the story. RWNJ pissed at the Mormon's because of CK (or that event at least was the tipping point for long-held animosity)

I'm not yet disabused of that notion, though it could be totally off.

Not bashing LDS generally but they do do shady stuff as an organization, such as baptizing dead people (from what I've read)

EDIT: fixed name in title, thanks!

not Richard's.

which I guess they haven't yet, or even his own social media. It seems the photos that show support for trump come from his mom's facebook. Still, the fact that he is a trump supporter has been documented and CNN is completely quiet about it.

And they seemed to know the motive for this. Until actual information started to emerge.

full of Trump voters. Although in all fairness I must note that Mormons tend to be much more civil and courteous that the run of the mill MAGAt.

It's a big mistake to think that RWers and Trump supporters are a monolith. In fact, there are so many divisions that, if the country consisted of only them, there would soon be a hot civil war.

with the Nicene Creed they are clearly heretics. The Nicene Creed pretty much has been the measure of what it means to be a Christian since the Emperor Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire back in the fourth century.

orthodoxy rarely has a happy ending.

aren't into the Nicene Creed too much.

we aren't going to hear jack shit about this from law enforcement or the MSM.

Not even MSNBC seems willing to go there.

Why he targeted them as opposed to more liberal Churches.Yes I'm aware that Kirk's shooter was raised by right wing parents. I would speculate despite being on obvious extreme maga as evident by his facebook page and the Trump yard signs and Trump gear he probably knew some liberals. I don't think mormonism is as big in Michigan as it in is in Utah. Probably didn't know any which made it easier for him desensitize himself to commit such an awful act of violence.

Hate.

He hated Mormons. He hated liberals. He really hated liberal Mormons, and he believed that a liberal Mormon killed Charlie Kirk, which was apparently equivalent to killing Jesus, so…..there you go.

The political spectrum of Mormons tends to range from conservative to extremely right-wing. I guess a liberal Mormon would be one who isn't an extreme right-winger. Maybe Mitt Romney? I guess he'd qualify because he doesn't like Trump.

But to a person who drove around town with very large US flags and the occasional F
Joe Biden flag flapping in his truck bed, I think “liberal” didn’t mean to him what it means to you and me.

As a bonus, the Kirk shooter-rightly or wrongly- has been dragged into LGBTQ issues, which was probably enough to drive Mr. Flag Guy right off the edge of sanity.

best known to and understood by only him. He lived in Utah for a while and had a girlfriend from a Mormon family (which happens if you live in Utah). Maybe that set him off. We may never know.

That's an important fact that has been established, but is being ignored for some reason. Oh wait, I think I know the reason.

then we'll have proof of leftism. If we know anything at all about liberals, it's that liberals like to engrave words onto bullets.

Claimed they "weren't Christian." Well, buddy, the few Mormons that I know are more Christian than someone who shoots up a church.