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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYou know who's not saying a word about the release of the Epstein files?
President Bill Clinton.
Which means he isn't in them or has some minor mentions and nothing nefarious.

Ocelot II
(127,484 posts)AG Barbie would have released it all to the media the minute she saw it.
Chasstev365
(6,346 posts)I hope you are correct, but its early to declare something like that.
GoCubsGo
(34,393 posts)The victims. Not one of them has accused him of anything.
AZJonnie
(1,675 posts)In fact none of them except Virginia Giuffre have ever mentioned anyone except for Epstein/Maxwell, except as enablers/people who should have said something and didn't.
And VG was specifically asked if she knew of any wrong-doing by Trump around Epstein and she testified she'd never personally seen him around Epstein, ever. And she was VERY close to them for awhile.
Just saying.
I am also not much of a believer in the whole 'pedo cabal' conspiracy theory to begin with, but I know I'm virtually alone in that inclination
GoCubsGo
(34,393 posts)in order to help get himself elected, and is now doing everything he can to prevent their release. Just sayin'.
AZJonnie
(1,675 posts)In fact he never talked about them except a couple times when directly asked in interviews, and even then he totally waffled and equivocated on his answer. Fox even misrepresented his answer the first time they presented the interview by cutting it off well before he finished answering (which became less and less of a commitment to do so as he spoke) and later had to come back and show the rest of it.
People act like its something he campaigned on and 'promised', but in reality, he did neither of those things. I'm sure he's afraid of what's in them but I suspect it's because he tried to blackmail Epstein over what he was doing cause Epstein had shit on Trump's dealings with the Russians. At minimum I'd bet there's evidence he knew EXACTLY what Epstein was doing, and said Jack about it to authorities. Hell he might've even lied to authorities
Tommy Carcetti
(44,245 posts)Epstein helped do some financing work for the Clinton Foundation in the early 2000s long before his crimes were known.
Because the Foundation did not have a plane of its own, Epstein offered the use of his plane for Foundation travel, and Clinton accepted.
The Foundation used the plane for four multi-stop trips overseas on official business.
There is no evidence of Clinton conspiring in any of Epstein's crimes nor any evidence whatsoever that he ever accompanied Epstein to his private island.
Clinton sent a short, generic note for inclusion in the 2003 birthday book, most likely as a requested favor (sort of like a Cameo video). This was around the same time Epstein did some foundation work. Unlike messages from Trump or others, there was nothing scandalous with Clinton's message and it was most likely just a way for Epstein to brag about his connections.
So, yes, he's in the "files."
There are likely hundreds of names in the files for all different contexts.
But "files" does not equal "list."
There is no "Epstein list."