trump loses a vote. I'm expecting him to put out and E.O. to not shoot these people.

"Their conversation never delved into politics or current events, Johns said — "there was no mention of anything right or left, blue or red.”

But Johns did says he spotted a Trump 2024 sign on the suspect's fence."

If this guy had been a leftist and had a Harris sign on his house, that would have been the headline. This guy was MAGA, he was a far right extremist who hated Mormons for some reason.

and that Mormons voting for the currently-configured Republican Party risk getting the same short shrift red state party bosses are giving out to native-born and immigrant American Muslims.

I know that many Mormons are profoundly social conservatives, but I hope this incident and the Extreme Right’s reaction to the Charlie Kirk assassination would inspire them to either vote third-party or just stay home on Election Day. They don’t have to stay with their abusers.

"there was no mention of anything right or left, blue or red.”

Hardly surprising. Two men who both vote Republican were having a conversation about what they disagree on, religion. They didn't discuss politics because they were both in agreement there.

to Solid Rock Church (which seems to be evangelical), answered Sanford's questions about the LDS church, but it's not clear whether the shooter was evangelical as well. He had some exposure to Mormons from living in Utah, where he dated a woman whose family was LDS. Is that where the animosity came from? Or was he motivated to attack this church because Charlie Kirk was killed by someone who might have been Mormon? If he thought the LDS church was "the antichrist" that does suggest he was some form of Christian who was offended in some way by that church, and many other Christians think Mormons are heretics but don't go about shooting them.

who is out-group IS an explicitly political conversation.

Gunning down churchgoers says more about his own beliefs than anyone else's.

Oh, that's right, when it is cis het white male fundie Xians killing people we don't talk about ideology.

“This appears to be yet another targeted attack on Christians in the United States of America. The Trump Administration will keep the Public posted, as we always do. In the meantime, PRAY for the victims, and their families.”

The radical leftwing war on christianity continues.

...to avoid the Antichrist...

but I guess they'll just both sides it.