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DemocratSinceBirth

(101,329 posts)
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 09:39 AM 11 hrs ago

Mormon church gunman was Marine 'who supported Trump'

The gunman who rammed his truck into a Mormon church and opened fire on worshippers was an Iraq war veteran who had previously shown support for Donald Trump.

Thomas Jacob Sanford, 40, from suburban Michigan, killed at least four people in the attack on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Grand Blanc Township on Sunday.

Police are still combing through the wreckage after he set the building ablaze.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/mormon-church-gunman-marine-supported-091641533.html

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Mormon church gunman was Marine 'who supported Trump' (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth 11 hrs ago OP
Angry white MAGA males are hunting down the American people. Irish_Dem 11 hrs ago #1
So, it's not Antifa but Anwhima (angry white MAGAs)? n/t xocetaceans 8 hrs ago #22
You have coined a new word. Perfect! Irish_Dem 5 hrs ago #28
No leaked info from the FBI?................... Lovie777 11 hrs ago #2
It was revenge for a Mormon shooting Kirk. Hello NYT and CNN - gonna play dumb again. 617Blue 11 hrs ago #3
+1 dalton99a 10 hrs ago #5
You know who would have loved this? Johnny2X2X 10 hrs ago #6
Kirk was a poor man's WF Buckley, or a rich man's Tim Pool... 617Blue 9 hrs ago #14
Community college, at that! niyad 8 hrs ago #20
Bet he has that written in a manifesto that will get covered up and never seen. lees1975 10 hrs ago #10
That's what I think, too. Mariana 9 hrs ago #18
I don't usually speculate on these things without hard evidence, but I suspect it was collective revenge on flashman13 8 hrs ago #21
Yesterday MAGA was on fire claiming that photo of the truck with the flags was not real or hlthe2b 11 hrs ago #4
Another right-wing gun nut shoots up a church. How long will it take Emile 10 hrs ago #7
No wonder there's crickets from the WH and FBI mcar 10 hrs ago #8
Not crickets. Orangutan already decried it as 'another targeted attack on Christians' nt lostnfound 9 hrs ago #17
This explains why the patriots want to descend on PORTLAND, OREGON BOSSHOG 10 hrs ago #9
"patriots"? I think you abuse the word without a sarcasm flag. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 7 hrs ago #27
What!?!?!? Shocked 😮 Clouds Passing 10 hrs ago #11
Shh-hh-.. Not too loud... kentuck 10 hrs ago #12
Don't read the comments if you want to remain sane. progressoid 9 hrs ago #13
Now that the gunman is a right winger, the media cover up is about to begin in 3,2,1 .... Mr. Sparkle 9 hrs ago #15
In the words of Pvt Gomer Pyle, USMC... Gimpyknee 9 hrs ago #16
Figures. republianmushroom 8 hrs ago #19
I mentioned a long time ago that this would happen as disillusioned supporters Warpy 8 hrs ago #23
I wonder if he blamed all Mormons for killing Charlie because Charlie's killer was Mormon. DemocratSinceBirth 8 hrs ago #24
Unless he left a bunch of rage posting online Warpy 2 hrs ago #31
Who cares about the motive? ninjanurse 7 hrs ago #25
Another story: Mormon church shooting suspect had Trump sign outside home, records show UpInArms 7 hrs ago #26
CNN not so sure... 617Blue 5 hrs ago #29
Another brainwashed violent white male. Evolve Dammit 4 hrs ago #30

Irish_Dem

(75,474 posts)
1. Angry white MAGA males are hunting down the American people.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 09:44 AM
11 hrs ago

Open season on We The People.

No one cares enough to stop it.

Johnny2X2X

(23,444 posts)
6. You know who would have loved this?
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 10:10 AM
10 hrs ago

Charlie Kirk would have loved this. The idea of someone killing people on his behalf would have made him very happy. People act like he didn't celebrate violence and killing on the regular. He loved it, and he wanted children to witness executions as a lesson.

lees1975

(6,782 posts)
10. Bet he has that written in a manifesto that will get covered up and never seen.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 10:41 AM
10 hrs ago

Or maybe it is inscripted on the bullets.

flashman13

(1,541 posts)
21. I don't usually speculate on these things without hard evidence, but I suspect it was collective revenge on
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 12:03 PM
8 hrs ago

Mormons because it was a Mormon that killed Saint Charlie of Misogyny.

It is pretty clear from the Yahoo article that the shooter was not a radical lunatic communist Marxist fascist left winger.

It was reminiscent of the Kluxers burning black churches back in the day.

hlthe2b

(111,514 posts)
4. Yesterday MAGA was on fire claiming that photo of the truck with the flags was not real or
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 09:48 AM
11 hrs ago

was from a previous incident or whatever. Not only is it apparently the real truck that drove into the church, but identified as one very similar seen at the assailant's house. Nothing about this signals "liberal." Sorry, MAGA. He's one of yours.

Emile

(37,840 posts)
7. Another right-wing gun nut shoots up a church. How long will it take
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 10:14 AM
10 hrs ago

for Trump, sitting on his hemorrhoidal ass to point his shit stained finger at the Democrats?

lostnfound

(17,209 posts)
17. Not crickets. Orangutan already decried it as 'another targeted attack on Christians' nt
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 11:47 AM
9 hrs ago

BOSSHOG

(43,738 posts)
9. This explains why the patriots want to descend on PORTLAND, OREGON
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 10:38 AM
10 hrs ago

more conservative carnage in MICHIGAN. EPSTEIN IS STILL ALIVE AND WELL. People who work for trump have no life and can’t stand anyone being happy including themselves.

Warpy

(113,960 posts)
23. I mentioned a long time ago that this would happen as disillusioned supporters
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 12:26 PM
8 hrs ago

realized that after devoting their hearts, souls, and lives to King Putz, they had nothing left and some of them would pick up guns and start shooting other people, some random and some not.

I don't think this was random, he had some kind of beef with this particular church. I say this because of the overkill, burning the church down to kill any survivors of the shooting.

Losing his cult didn't help, it was just one more thing that eventually turned an asshole into an asshole with a big, ugly gun who thought killing people would make him feel better.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,329 posts)
24. I wonder if he blamed all Mormons for killing Charlie because Charlie's killer was Mormon.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 12:46 PM
8 hrs ago

Warpy

(113,960 posts)
31. Unless he left a bunch of rage posting online
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 06:37 PM
2 hrs ago

we will likely never know. He's dead and anyone who know why he was so angry at that church might be injured or dead.

ninjanurse

(115 posts)
25. Who cares about the motive?
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 01:32 PM
7 hrs ago

The press is either too lazy or too scared to report where he got the weapons and what red flags were missed. How about the names and addresses of all the gun sellers who armed mass shooters?

UpInArms

(53,444 posts)
26. Another story: Mormon church shooting suspect had Trump sign outside home, records show
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 01:34 PM
7 hrs ago
Images on Google Maps taken in June show that Sanford had a blue sign with Trump’s last name attached to a shed on the side of his house in Burton, Michigan, about a 15-minute drive from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints authorities say he targeted Sunday morning.

The placard, first reported by the Daily Beast, was propped up above a red stop sign. The image of the placard was too unclear to tell definitively whether it also displayed the last name of Mike Pence or JD Vance – Trump’s running mates during his three presidential campaigns since 2016.

Meanwhile, a family photo posted on Facebook shows Sanford posing alongside his wife and 10-year-old son wearing a Re-elect Trump 2020 T-shirt. The shirt from when the first of Trump’s two presidencies ended in defeat to Joe Biden carries the logo “Make Liberals Cry Again”.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/29/mormon-church-shooting-trump-sign
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