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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPhoto that shows the gunman's truck crashed into the Mormon church in Michigan. (Twitter)
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Looks like a radical left loonie to me.

ZDU
(789 posts)Checks box.
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calimary
(87,928 posts)Reminds me of that song title Your Flag Decal Wont Get You Into Heaven Anymore.
SergeStorms
(19,785 posts)must have fallen off when he was picking up speed before ramming the church. Another armed-to-the-teeth right-wing loony "making a statement."
Lovie777
(20,476 posts)Crunchy Frog
(28,068 posts)TheBlackAdder
(29,710 posts)TommyT139
(1,946 posts)(and yes, I do get that you were joking.)
enid602
(9,540 posts)But arent all pickups driven by the radical right black in color? With truck nuts under the back bumper? And an overfowing ash tray?
regnaD kciN
(27,307 posts)just like their owners.
Kaleva
(39,967 posts)murielm99
(32,363 posts)Kaleva
(39,967 posts)I do not know if Robinson, the shooter, himself was a practicing Mormon as an adult.
Jacson6
(1,554 posts)Lovie777
(20,476 posts)maga's infighting?
Abnredleg
(1,159 posts)Maybe we should take everything with a grain of salt and let the facts come out?
Pototan
(2,865 posts)2013 Silverado.
Srkdqltr
(8,936 posts)Its not far enough into the wall to do any good.
Crunchy Frog
(28,068 posts)Nevertheless, I understand that everything is foggy so early on after an event of this nature.
Bernardo de La Paz
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Crunchy Frog
(28,068 posts)I'm asking because there are people on this thread saying that it was a first responder.
Lovie777
(20,476 posts)taxi
(2,534 posts)The first being on the extent of the fire. Wasn't there an operable sprinkler system? That's quite a conflagration from a truck hitting a wall.
The second is how the truck could have reasonably be expected to penetrate the brick wall. The roadway in the foreground is not in a direct line with the area targeted, and involved going against the one-way traffic markers. Then there doesn't appear to be a tearing up of the grass or marks on the curb. It seems there would have to be some type of incendiary device introduced into the building.
Kaleva
(39,967 posts)Veered right and headed right to the church
kbowman
(5 posts)I think he's been veering right for a long time
SergeStorms
(19,785 posts)I'm not sure of incendiary devices, though. It could have been something as simple as an old-fashioned Molotov cocktail.
Silent Type
(11,261 posts)Crunchy Frog
(28,068 posts)Our side doesn't control the machinery of repression or of "law" enforcement. We don't have the ability to make policy on the "cracking down on domestic terrorism". They do, and are actively using it to target their political opponents (us), which is not something our side has ever done.
It's completely valid for us to point out when perpetrators of violence don't fit the regime's narrative.
Sancho
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AverageOldGuy
(3,000 posts)Thomas Jacob Sanford, 40, from Burton was confirmed as the shooter at a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints chapel in Grand Blanc Township about an hour from Detroit.
The New York Post reported that an old Facebook post by Sanfords mother indicated he served in Iraq from 2004 to 2008.
Everything I read says "hundreds" of people were inside the church. Reports are that he was driving a Chevy pickup flying two big Amereican flags, rammed into the church doors, started shooting, then, something exploded. Overhead photos show the church as a big building, totally involved in flames. Most reports quote local authorities anticipate a lot of dead after they get the fire out.
Other comments I have read on various blogs says this is a rural part of Michigan that went heavily from Trump with MAGAts everywhere.
ybbor
(1,676 posts)Not very urban, but I wouldnt call it rural. Grand Blanc used to be the very affluent suburb of Flint before GM closed the majority of the plants, still nice, but not the same. Rural doesnt come to mind. I grew up in Flint, and still have family in the area. Know it well.
IbogaProject
(5,043 posts)The other had that blue fascist thin blue line.
Blue Full Moon
(2,904 posts)As the New Orleans and Las Vegas. The guy who shot up the seafood restaurant. Another 40 yr old combat veteran. He tried to sue the government over straight white men genocide.
Raven123
(7,084 posts)orangecrush
(26,819 posts)Maru Kitteh
(30,712 posts)Yup.
Blue Full Moon
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newdeal2
(4,221 posts)Coldwater
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Grim Chieftain
(641 posts)Into a symbol of hatred, intolerance and violence. Damn them.
doc03
(38,435 posts)Response to Crunchy Frog (Original post)
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vanlassie
(6,146 posts)Hekate
(99,594 posts)dalton99a
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Vogon_Glory
(10,069 posts)If the Mormons were wise, theyd reconsider any ties they have to the Extreme Right. The Saints were widely persecuted in the mid19 th century, and despite wishful thinking on the part of many LDSers and their leadership, the bigotry and hate directed at them way back when may have dwindled from what it once was, but it hasnt died out. In the aftermath of Charlie Kirks abrupt departure from this mortal plane, those voices of hatred and religious bigotry are beginning to be heard again. It wouldnt surprise me at all if Mormons soon find themselves seated next to Muslims on the Radical Rights hate list. Then they can relive their forebears persecution and calumny.