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Not even talking about the poor golfing, I'm talking about the ignorant insults hurled at Rory McIlroy and his family.
A constant barrage of F bombs and other vulgarities was bad enough, but insults about his marriage, about his family was a disgrace.
A dozen or more police had to be called in to be a buffer between Rory and the ignorant crowd, even the USA golfers tried to tone down the chants.
USA USA, well count me out, I started rooting for Rory.
A lot of other ignorant shouts that I care not to report about.
This may end up being the largest drubbing that any Ryder Cup team gets, and the US was the favorite. Maybe the atmosphere was ugly because Krasnov showed up the first day for his photo-op?

Champp
(2,155 posts)Everyone (except those on their knees kissing his Republican ASS) know that Trump is a cowardly and dishonorable VULGAR bully.
He perverts the energy to "Republican Sick and Sinful" wherever his Pedo Protecting Posterior waddles.
Sad that Republicans have done this to our once Great America.
Gimpyknee
(714 posts)Champp
(2,155 posts)They should take their unmanly whining and losing to the Republican National Convention where it will be celebrated.
Gimpyknee
(714 posts)underpants
(193,234 posts)because I didnt hear any but you could see that it was happening. Lowry sank a birdie putt and said something directly to the jerk razzing Rory.
On Twitter Ive heard it though. Horrible stuff.
Shrek
(4,314 posts)These guys did not come to play.
nitpicked
(1,368 posts)Let's see if they make the final score a little less lopsided. Or not.
chicoescuela
(2,354 posts)Sadly we need this humiliation on the world stage.
We really suck right now.
markodochartaigh
(4,162 posts)I have ever watched was in the movie "Caddyshack", so please forgive my ignorance. Why were they hassling Rory McIlroy?
Kingofalldems
(39,898 posts)Goonch
(4,010 posts)bronxiteforever
(10,790 posts)Ryder Cup 2025: Walking with Rory McIlroy amid the shower of F-bombs and abuse as Bethpage crowd crosses a line
By JOEL BEALL
SEPTEMBER 27, 2025
FARMINGDALE, N.Y. The backstroke was aborted as a F*** YOU RORY arose from the right side of the fourth green
What made the scene shocking was not its divergence from what golf is, but that it had become the status quo for what McIlroy suffered throughout Saturday afternoon.
He walked toward the green to mark his ball, taunts erupted from spectators lining Round Swamp Road. "Choker!" they screamed in unison. "Remember Pinehurst!" The grandstands flanking the green transformed into a countdown timer, fans bellowing numbers as McIlroy deliberated over his birdie putt. "You're taking too damn long!" one roared, attempting to weaponize their own impatience. When McIlroy's attempt slid past the cup, the cheers exploded into slurs: "Leprechaun!" "Overrated!" Take out the Irish trash!
The European team had arrived prepared, boasting about VR headset training sessions designed to simulate crowd hostility. They claimed to be ready for the worst. But no simulation could replicate the toxic alchemy at work here: alcohol mixed with entitlement, rudeness fused with xenophobia.
As the group made the turn to the back nine, the match was deadlocked at all square. But if the front nine was any indication of what lay ahead, what was transpiring at Bethpage was no longer golf.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/ryder-cup-2025-rory-mcilroy-saturday-fans
3catwoman3
(27,787 posts)I dont follow golf, so know nothing about him
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Swede
(37,411 posts)Drunken xenophobic Americans.
Kid Berwyn
(22,006 posts)Class.
rubbersole
(10,612 posts)The Roux Comes First
(1,856 posts)It's bad enough to have a convicted criminal with the emotional skills of a toddler gluing glitter all over the White Houuse. We don't need to have all these pitiful yam-worshippers out in public.
mdbl
(7,446 posts)They don't put up with any of that crap.
Alliepoo
(2,738 posts)Respectful quiet of the spectators that used to be? None of the talking, jeering etc that is now part of spectating. And when did it become acceptable for the crowd to act like theyre at a football game? Its ridiculous.
Shrek
(4,314 posts)It's a team event of USA vs. Europe so the fanbases are in direct opposition. It's always been a little raucous but it's gotten a lot worse in the last 20 years or so.
I attended the 2014 event in Scotland and endured a bit of heckling from the Euro fans, but nothing like I saw yesterday.
Submariner
(13,138 posts)my Bruins fans friends probably would have been throwing a Cod or Octopus out onto the green, to support the home team and liven things up in an otherwise dull game.
Wednesdays
(20,820 posts)
J_William_Ryan
(3,030 posts)Yes.
Gimpyknee
(714 posts)D_Master81
(2,218 posts)Last edited Sun Sep 28, 2025, 11:23 AM - Edit history (1)
Im not surprised, thats what America has kinda become.
2naSalit
(97,890 posts)It IS what we've become. I worked in and around a major national park for decades and I saw the profile of the average tourist go from respectful and interested in the environment they were visiting to complete assholes as were on display at this golf event. Seriously, this is how they treat uniformed park rangers and other employees. Been that way since about the middle of Obama's 2 terms. It got so bad since 2016 that I decided to leave the region and get away from that sort of social nightmare.
Alice Kramden
(2,789 posts)I didn't know that American behavior had devolved so much - guess I don't get around much anymore
Nittersing
(7,642 posts)I've always lived in blue areas... guess I've been pretty shielded.
Alliepoo
(2,738 posts)I dont even know what to say.
D_Master81
(2,218 posts)I can attest to this as well. Dont know what happened to cause it but people seem so entitled these days. If you dont do things like they want at a price they think is fair they will yell at our guys or take to social media to air their grievances. Obviously this is still the vocal minority but its growing.
Wednesdays
(20,820 posts)Seen especially during the pandemic.
EdmondDantes_
(948 posts)It's not just Americans who have learned to be lousy in sports.
spanone
(140,275 posts)Given them the right to be the pricks they are and to insult our allies at will.
They respect nothing.
Gimpyknee
(714 posts)Its time to put an end to this event.
Totally Tunsie
(11,270 posts)trump has made it the acceptable norm to spew hatred and ignorance. It permeates everything. ETTD
sop
(16,202 posts)
rainy
(6,301 posts)niyad
(127,526 posts)practiced, glowering, menacing images. He thinks he looks tough and manly, instead he looks ridiculous and phony.
sop
(16,202 posts)niyad
(127,526 posts)a kennedy
(34,505 posts)The USA players are required to donate $300,000, but they do keep the remaining $200,000.
peacebuzzard
(5,665 posts)Once peaceful & tranquil; this sport has now been trashed.
I have not been keeping up with this sport; now, it is pointless and a shame. OMG.
Melon
(796 posts)Getting worse each year. Europeans also hackle the American players and chant. They just have more decorum on the putting greens.
North Shore Chicago
(4,197 posts)"Rory McIlroy's wife Erica Stoll was left in tears at the Ryder Cup after a drink was allegedly thrown at her by rowdy spectators. McIlroy faced relentless heckling from Team USA fans during Saturday's four-ball match with team-mate Shane Lowry. The 36-year-old golfer, who is no stranger to hostile chants and abuse from American spectators, initially responded by sarcastically blowing them kisses."
I have been following golf for years, the folks who followed players were NEVER this grotesque and mean-spirited! Following John Daly in a few tournaments back in the 90's, there was never this level of poor sportsmanship!
This country is a cesspool now. Thanks president vomit.
Gimpyknee
(714 posts)This unruly crowd behavior has been going on for years. More so since USA has been getting ass kicked.
North Shore Chicago
(4,197 posts)I am speaking of the deterioration of civility in golf fans for a while now. I mention John Daly, because as a guy who could get under your skin, I never saw the push back from fans as I see now. Fuzzy Zoeller, who mocked Tiger Woods with talk about eating watermelon never was retaliated against like Rory. Rory is also one of the few PGA golfers who leans Democratic in his views. My point was, golf use to be my go-to for decent behavior by fans, no longer.
Gimpyknee
(714 posts)The 2016 event at Hazeltine comes to mind. Rory and Sergio were especially targeted by unruly fans. Really ugly American stuff.
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tetedur
(1,352 posts)No matter who wins, does the world change? No.
Golf and all sports, in my opinion, is entertainment, a game where people can exercise their skills and others watch for vicarious thrills.
I don't understand the hostility exhibited by the crowd. Why were they ugly to the guy? Don't the players deserve respect for their skills?
Is there some underlying dispute going on between USA and the UK?
If a team wins, does that mean that they have won some sort of political victory? Does it mean that the country they are from is more righteous, or powerful, or admirable than the losing team?
Or is the game just an opportunity for unsportsmanlike people to show their ass to the world?
OneBlueDotS-Carolina
(1,469 posts)During the last Ryder cup in Rome, one player refused to wear a USA branded hat, complaining that they should get paid. This time around the USA team members get $500K each, they asked team Europe if they wanted to get paid, no thanks, we're playing for pride. Justin Thomas was egging the crowd on, as was captain Keegan Bradley. Imagine paying $750 for a ticket, getting drunk on overpriced beer, then getting tossed for screaming insults at Rory. On the plus side, they got to see their MAGA gawd on Friday, after having to line up for hours due to added screening for the MAGA gawd. I'm sure the MAGA gawd demanded that team USA let him play as he has won many club championships....
Wiz Imp
(7,519 posts)All the Americans are probably Republicans - there are very few Pro Golfers who support Democrats.
I will give Justin Thomas some slight credit though. He may have been egging the crowd on early, but once it got really bad, he was trying to get the crowd to quiet down for Rory to make his shots. Not to much credit though since he helped cause the issue himself.
I'm rooting for Tommy Fleetwood - one of the few pro golfers who has criticized Trump (and he was the most successful golfer on the course over the first 2 days winning all 4 of his matches)
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20680156
Buns_of_Fire
(18,778 posts)And also thanks to the corrosive influence of this "president," the recipients of the ugliness no longer even have to be foreign or foreign-born. True equality, if you can stomach it.
aeromanKC
(3,725 posts)This is the crowd that boooo'd Govoner Hocul and cheered Trump.
Henry203
(742 posts)Of the orange asshole. Rude and disrespectful. I ope we lose every match today.
Abstractartist
(341 posts)It shows just how united the European team is, vs the separatists USA team. The Euros travel together, eat together, many share homes and places on the tour, where the USA team travel separate, stay in rented homes mostly by themselves with their families, etc
. and this Ryder Cup shows the difference. The USA team does not look united under Bradley, dont seem interested in the event, except for a select few.
Trump showing up didnt help the N.Y. crowd either. Many hate him there, along with the endless supply of beer and other
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Conjuay
(2,701 posts)Oh.
(Yawn)
Skittles
(167,728 posts)zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Gimpyknee
(714 posts)Its time to put an end to the Ryder Cup. Im pissed that American team players didnt try to quiet the unruly crowd. Scream USA! USA! USA! as loud as you can but once again were getting our ass kicked. Americans at their ugliest.
TheDemsshouldhireme
(224 posts)like Justin Thomas. But is was a disgrace overall. Some comedian I believe named Heather Mcmahan had a bullhorn before the match and was leading the crowd with eff you Rory chants.
Alliepoo
(2,738 posts)The entire world to see. Sickening.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,411 posts)
Ilsa
(63,336 posts)guy and his wife? Why are they acting this way, and why haven't golf officials had them removed?
surfered
(9,428 posts)róisín_dubh
(12,139 posts)And, as one of my mates said to me this is the reason you lot are called septics.
Its not just the Cockney rhyming slang.
A lot of US sporting culture is fucking appalling. They cant even do good sports banter
Wiz Imp
(7,519 posts)A club emerged on social media of the Master of Ceremonies urging the home fans to direct a foul-mouth chant at the European star
The American actress and comedian was urging the raucous New York crowd to direct foul-mouthed chants towards the Northern Irishman and he endured relentless abuse at Bethpage Black while partnering Shane Lowry.
Organisers stepped in to address the hostile reception the 36-year-old faced, with messages on the big screens reminding spectators of proper conduct as police moved to eject troublesome supporters.
McMahan, though, fuelled the unruly atmosphere before the morning foursomes began, actively encouraging inappropriate behaviour. At the first tee, she was seen bellowing "F*** you Rory!" through a megaphone as those in the grandstands joined in.
muriel_volestrangler
(104,833 posts)Heather McMahan apologised to McIlroy and Ryder Cup Europe for the remarks. It took the PGA of America 20 hours to address the incident, which happened before dawn on Saturday, inviting questions about whether they were quick enough to act.
McMahan had been employed to stoke up the crowd on the first tee in an attempt to build the atmosphere, and was using a megaphone to lead them in their chants. She tried to persuade them to join her in a chorus of Scotty! Scotty! Scheffler! to the tune of Queens We Will Rock You but was booed into abandoning the effort. Fuck you Rory! was more popular, and became a persistent chant throughout the day. McIlroy responded by blowing the crowd kisses when he came to the tee.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/sep/28/ryder-cup-mc-apologises-and-steps-down-over-foul-mouthed-rory-mcilroy-chant
dsc
(53,163 posts)I haven't watched golf in years but my dad was an avid fan so I recall watching in my youth and into adulthood. The notion of using a comedian to warm up a golf crowd seems down right bizarre.
muriel_volestrangler
(104,833 posts)As the only major "team" event in golf, the "USA! USA!" etc. chants are fine, apart from when a player's about to strike the ball. And the kind of barracking like "you missed an easier putt than this last hole!" is fair (again, not when they're about to his the ball). The dumb "fuck you" stuff is bad; the insulting stuff about a player's wife is awful. But there's no way anyone official should be taking part in it.
Wiz Imp
(7,519 posts)Keegan Bradley dumbfounds Ryder Cup onlookers with astonishing response about the New York mob
Yet, instead of condemning the behaviour, Bradley opted to get involved in whataboutery and even attemped to draw comparisons with Rome two years ago.
Anger is one thing, but it has spilled into obscenity. Bradley ran the length of a fairway during practice waving an American flag and his players spent the summer telling Europe it would be wild, crazy and chaotic with Bryson DeChambeau even saying they wouldnt be ready.
But any notions of taking even a shred of responsibility for the carnage didnt register on Saturday night as he said: Yeah, Ryder Cups are wild. I dont appreciate those words that you just said. I know what youre trying to do. The Ryder Cup is full of passionate fans.
Buddyzbuddy
(1,563 posts)Never played, but I used to like watching for the beautiful serene settings. Then, I learned how exclusionary, masoginistic, and racist these clubs were/are. Sure some had to be dragged into the 20th Century, at the time, so no. It's a bunch of rich white guys that tolerate the "others". A place to get away from their wives, have private "man" time sometimes with little scantily clad bunnies to ogle and where "business deals" can be made without prying eyes and the guy with the most power, ie. money can cheat without a peep. Where one can hit a miraculous hole in one every other month and make himself a golf champion because he fills out a scorecard based on the honor system of which he's totally void of.
I'll bet it used to be a nice way to get some walking, social time in. What a shame. Everything he touches.
To you guys/gals that genuinely enjoy the sport, this is not directed to you. Please enjoy the game and for you couples that play together, more power to you.
Walleye
(42,630 posts)Tetrachloride
(9,009 posts)okay that last part is not exactly jealousy
hatrack
(63,628 posts)It's all part of perfecting The New America - Land Of Assholes.
whathehell
(30,271 posts)during their soccer rioting days, and more recently France during UEFA Champions League last May, with The Netherlands with their gross
anti-semitism during their match with Israel a year before?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/violence-surrounding-soccer-match-israeli-dutch-teams-unfolded-rcna179572#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17590911969968&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fviolence-surrounding-soccer-match-israeli-dutch-teams-unfolded-rcna179572
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1321624-world-footballs-10-most-dangerous-fan-bases
Gimpyknee
(714 posts)This rude and boorish fan behavior has been going on for years at the Ryder Cup. Its about time to end this event.
Walleye
(42,630 posts)If Trump would stand up and tell his fans to settle down, they would. But he just loves this crap.
BradBo
(784 posts)tavernier
(13,972 posts)I might be tempted to get drunk too. Nah. I would better kill my time at a good movie or a walk on the beach.
I know nice MAGAs who would never be that rude. They just arent very informed. Ive spent time with two over the past three years and they no longer support Trump, even came with me to protests. Just be patient and answer questions with verifiable facts. But I also know several who adore rump, regardless of truth. Cant fix stupid.
spike jones
(1,965 posts)His first task was testing the paint used for road markings. He spent a month getting paid good money by watching paint dry.
tavernier
(13,972 posts)
PJMcK
(24,250 posts)If you understand it, they're magnificent.
If you don't, you might as well watch yacht racing.
DinahMoeHum
(23,181 posts)Golf tournaments are no exception.
not fooled
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PJMcK
(24,250 posts)Wednesdays
(20,820 posts)He drives on greens? Wouldn't using a putter be more appropriate?
Ocelot II
(127,439 posts)That's pretty strange. I thought if you were watching golf you had to be vewwy, vewwy quiet.
gab13by13
(29,873 posts)Rory was going to get a divorce a while back but they reconciled and are back together, but a fan yelled, where did you and Shane and Erica sleep last night?
Rebl2
(17,017 posts)Your last sentence explains it all.
CousinIT
(11,883 posts)Prairie Gates
(6,347 posts)Lacking any class whatsoever, from the idiot fans to the players to the announcers. It is disgraceful, just as you say.
I used to enjoy watching the four majors and the Ryder Cup. Never again. It's cultish and scary and gross.
whathehell
(30,271 posts)"disgrace" itself during sporting events...Try the ugly anti-semitism displayed in the Israel -Netherlands game in 2024, and the violence resulting in injuries and death in a victory "celebration" in France just this year.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1321624-world-footballs-10-most-dangerous-fan-bases
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1321624-world-footballs-10-most-dangerous-fan-bases
BannonsLiver
(19,680 posts)The whataboutism makes it look as though you are defending the fan behavior at the Ryder Cup.
mdbl
(7,446 posts)The US is really breaking out the deplorables to make us look like morons on the world stage.
LudwigPastorius
(13,481 posts)I guess it's better to have a drunken crowd beclown themselves on an international stage than it is to give up that sweet, sweet money.