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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPeople are getting it wrong about Hegseth. He wants a "warrior aesthetic," not "ethos."
Everyone has to have an aesthetic, from what I understand on TikTok. There's always a new aesthetic trending over there. Hegseth is hoping his "warrior aesthetic" goes viral and leads all the trends.
Yeah, that's the ticket...

niyad
(127,490 posts)office? As a tv personality, "the looks" would be the important thing.
MineralMan
(149,815 posts)All those tattoos and stuff. He loves it!
niyad
(127,490 posts)mystery novel. The con man/government asset has gone undercover to retrieve somebvaluable information. His business card identifies him as a "social media influencer influencer", which cracked me up. Of course, that was before I had any clue exactly what they do. Scary.
AverageOldGuy
(2,995 posts)Im 81. I do 100 every morning.
niyad
(127,490 posts)way-too-imaginative brain, even without alcohol.
bucolic_frolic
(52,482 posts)"Aesthetics is concerned with beauty and perception, while ethos describes the fundamental character or beliefs of a person, group, or culture. Though distinct, the two can influence one another, as seen in how a group's ethos shapes its aesthetic expressions. "
The nuance between them is not resonating for me.
MineralMan
(149,815 posts)That's rule #1.
harumph
(3,017 posts)He was talking about the tailored Hugo Boss uniforms of the officer class. That would be considered part of the Nazi aesthetic.
The Nazi ethos can be summarized as "Blood and Soil."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_soil
There is the thing that people espouse or act within - an ethos - and the various ways in which it non-verbally signals itself to the world.
That's a very incomplete way of differentiating, but one that I fall back on.
*Note: nephew no longer holds that view
haele
(14,633 posts)Someone with an ethos that values innovation, exploration, and curiosity can embrace an aesthetic that reflects time periods or movements. with those values such as Steampunk or "Retro" (Mid-Century Modern).
But, I'd like to know what Kegsbreath thinks a Warrior Ethos is? Having spent almost 40 years of my life in or working with the military, I'm not getting Warrior vibes from him; I'm getting Gym Warrior Wannabe vibes from him.
MineralMan
(149,815 posts)The tats didn't work, either. He just doesn't have it, so he has to fake it.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(1,156 posts)
orangecrush
(26,801 posts)That is what the upcoming "meeting" is about.
yardwork
(68,141 posts)He's a moron who seems to care only about appearances. He's very preoccupied with his appearance and the appearances of other men.
MineralMan
(149,815 posts)Thanks.
orangecrush
(26,801 posts)yardwork
(68,141 posts)Personality disorders, people with secret lives, sex and drug addictions everywhere.
They are not well. Trump finds them because they have weaknesses and secrets, and they're selfish and greedy.
They're a collection of the worst humanity has to offer.
orangecrush
(26,801 posts)vapor2
(3,149 posts)yardwork
(68,141 posts)I'm not blaming people for being ill, but their characters are sick too. They chose the dark way.
Ocelot II
(127,423 posts)MineralMan
(149,815 posts)He has no real substance in him. Just appearance. He's going to try to sell that concept to a bunch of old soldiers. It's going to be a very hard sale.
Ocelot II
(127,423 posts)Some uniforms from the old days had a kinda snappy look that he'd love.
MineralMan
(149,815 posts)I do wonder why they all have one hand in their coat pocket. Are they playing with their guns in there?
Ocelot II
(127,423 posts)MineralMan
(149,815 posts)yardwork
(68,141 posts)D. Spaulding
(399 posts)on the power the idiot gave him. He wants a photo for all the RW echo chambers, of him in front of large numbers of these high ranking military leaders, that are at his beck and call and that he has command over.
MineralMan
(149,815 posts)If so, this will be a shocking gathering for him.
Ocelot II
(127,423 posts)as applied to him or Dear Leader. He probably interprets all those eyerolls and sighs and looking at watches and phones and side-eye glances that occur when he's present as expressions of fear and respect.
MineralMan
(149,815 posts)Hey Joe
(236 posts)that are too tight and too short, I think
of the models in Gentlemens Quarterly magazine. All made up pretty with his hair just so
Like he just walked off the set of Fox news.
He tries way too hard but fails to convey anything but
Look At Meeeee!
This whole administration is right out of reality tv.
Warrior Ethos indeed
MineralMan
(149,815 posts)Especially if you can see his tattoos.
Starbeach
(233 posts)They want pictures of a mass gathering of military officers in rapt obedience, Kim style. And Heg presiding; hard to believe Dapper Don can stay away.
AverageOldGuy
(2,995 posts)I served 28 years in the Army, Vietnam vet, retired in1995.
I lived next door to an Army MOH recipient for four months before I learned of his award. He had his medal framed in his small, private back of the house study. Quiet, studious guy.
After retiring and moving I did a lot of volunteer work alongside a Marine MOH recipient for several months. He was proud of being a Marine and occasionally, when a few of us were reminiscing, he talked of Marines he knew who were killed in Nam. Never once mentioned his MOH. Learned about it in the local newspaper when he was named Grand Marshall of July 4 parade.
To say Hegseth makes me puke is an understatement.
Buns_of_Fire
(18,775 posts)
flashman13
(1,531 posts)MineralMan
(149,815 posts)Putting a Guard Major over those seasoned Generals can't possible sit well with them. It has to quietly burn in their minds to listen to him handing down stupid orders that make little or no sense.
What the reaction will be, I do not know.
Initech
(106,407 posts)