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MineralMan

(149,815 posts)
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 09:47 AM 17 hrs ago

People are getting it wrong about Hegseth. He wants a "warrior aesthetic," not "ethos."

Everyone has to have an aesthetic, from what I understand on TikTok. There's always a new aesthetic trending over there. Hegseth is hoping his "warrior aesthetic" goes viral and leads all the trends.

Yeah, that's the ticket...

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People are getting it wrong about Hegseth. He wants a "warrior aesthetic," not "ethos." (Original Post) MineralMan 17 hrs ago OP
Ahhh, now I understand. Isn't he the guy who put a make-up studio in his niyad 17 hrs ago #1
Exactly. Hegseth wants to be an influencer. MineralMan 17 hrs ago #3
The first time that I ever encountered the word "iinfluencer" was in a niyad 14 hrs ago #35
And he claims to knock out 50 push-ups every morning. AverageOldGuy 14 hrs ago #31
You don't want to know the images "knock out 50 pushups" put in my niyad 14 hrs ago #32
Google AI explains the difference, but I'm still confused.... bucolic_frolic 17 hrs ago #2
The Look Sells the Reality MineralMan 17 hrs ago #4
My nephew when he was younger once commented that the Nazis "looked cool."* harumph 17 hrs ago #5
Operative word there is "can"... haele 17 hrs ago #6
Yes. Hegseth exudes something, but it is not warrior vibes at all. MineralMan 16 hrs ago #10
Chest thumping is just chest thumping, no matter how it's packaged with flowery words. Apes gonna ape! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 17 hrs ago #7
I seriously doubt orangecrush 16 hrs ago #8
I think you give Hegseth too much credit. yardwork 16 hrs ago #9
That's the point, exactly. MineralMan 16 hrs ago #11
I hope you're right orangecrush 16 hrs ago #23
The entire Trump administration has serious MH issues. yardwork 16 hrs ago #12
THIS orangecrush 16 hrs ago #24
Well said! vapor2 15 hrs ago #28
MH? niyad 14 hrs ago #33
Mental health issues. yardwork 13 hrs ago #37
Kegbreath seems unduly concerned with the appearances of other men. Ocelot II 16 hrs ago #13
So it seems. MineralMan 16 hrs ago #15
Will he order new uniforms? Ocelot II 16 hrs ago #17
Very Spiffy Duds, to Be Sure! MineralMan 16 hrs ago #18
I think it's called pocket pinball... Ocelot II 16 hrs ago #21
LOL, yes. MineralMan 16 hrs ago #22
Ya think? yardwork 13 hrs ago #38
Yes, we know from reports and the Signal chats, he gets off D. Spaulding 16 hrs ago #14
I wonder if he's able to detect contempt from other people. MineralMan 16 hrs ago #16
I really don't think he recognizes contempt, or even can even imagine the concept Ocelot II 16 hrs ago #19
I think you're probably right about that. MineralMan 16 hrs ago #20
Whenever I see that poser in his ill fitting suits Hey Joe 16 hrs ago #25
To me, he reads Incel. MineralMan 16 hrs ago #26
Pictures Starbeach 15 hrs ago #27
I know two Medal of Honor recipients AverageOldGuy 14 hrs ago #29
Remember this, my warriors, and remember it well: Buns_of_Fire 14 hrs ago #30
What the drunken piss ant Guard major really wants is to lord his position over star officicers. What could go wrong? flashman13 14 hrs ago #34
Yes. MineralMan 13 hrs ago #36
I just want these fucking psychos and their shitty news networks out of the White House. For good. Initech 13 hrs ago #39
And not wasting oxygen anywhere. niyad 13 hrs ago #40

niyad

(127,490 posts)
1. Ahhh, now I understand. Isn't he the guy who put a make-up studio in his
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 09:52 AM
17 hrs ago

office? As a tv personality, "the looks" would be the important thing.

MineralMan

(149,815 posts)
3. Exactly. Hegseth wants to be an influencer.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:03 AM
17 hrs ago

All those tattoos and stuff. He loves it!

niyad

(127,490 posts)
35. The first time that I ever encountered the word "iinfluencer" was in a
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 12:51 PM
14 hrs ago

mystery novel. The con man/government asset has gone undercover to retrieve somebvaluable information. His business card identifies him as a "social media influencer influencer", which cracked me up. Of course, that was before I had any clue exactly what they do. Scary.

AverageOldGuy

(2,995 posts)
31. And he claims to knock out 50 push-ups every morning.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 12:35 PM
14 hrs ago

I’m 81. I do 100 every morning.

niyad

(127,490 posts)
32. You don't want to know the images "knock out 50 pushups" put in my
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 12:40 PM
14 hrs ago

way-too-imaginative brain, even without alcohol.

bucolic_frolic

(52,482 posts)
2. Google AI explains the difference, but I'm still confused....
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 09:53 AM
17 hrs ago

"Aesthetics is concerned with beauty and perception, while ethos describes the fundamental character or beliefs of a person, group, or culture. Though distinct, the two can influence one another, as seen in how a group's ethos shapes its aesthetic expressions. "

The nuance between them is not resonating for me.

harumph

(3,017 posts)
5. My nephew when he was younger once commented that the Nazis "looked cool."*
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:06 AM
17 hrs ago

He was talking about the tailored Hugo Boss uniforms of the officer class. That would be considered part of the Nazi aesthetic.

The Nazi ethos can be summarized as "Blood and Soil."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_soil

There is the thing that people espouse or act within - an ethos - and the various ways in which it non-verbally signals itself to the world.

That's a very incomplete way of differentiating, but one that I fall back on.

*Note: nephew no longer holds that view

haele

(14,633 posts)
6. Operative word there is "can"...
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:06 AM
17 hrs ago

Someone with an ethos that values innovation, exploration, and curiosity can embrace an aesthetic that reflects time periods or movements. with those values such as Steampunk or "Retro" (Mid-Century Modern).
But, I'd like to know what Kegsbreath thinks a Warrior Ethos is? Having spent almost 40 years of my life in or working with the military, I'm not getting Warrior vibes from him; I'm getting Gym Warrior Wannabe vibes from him.

MineralMan

(149,815 posts)
10. Yes. Hegseth exudes something, but it is not warrior vibes at all.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:12 AM
16 hrs ago

The tats didn't work, either. He just doesn't have it, so he has to fake it.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,156 posts)
7. Chest thumping is just chest thumping, no matter how it's packaged with flowery words. Apes gonna ape!
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:07 AM
17 hrs ago

yardwork

(68,141 posts)
9. I think you give Hegseth too much credit.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:10 AM
16 hrs ago

He's a moron who seems to care only about appearances. He's very preoccupied with his appearance and the appearances of other men.

yardwork

(68,141 posts)
12. The entire Trump administration has serious MH issues.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:14 AM
16 hrs ago

Personality disorders, people with secret lives, sex and drug addictions everywhere.

They are not well. Trump finds them because they have weaknesses and secrets, and they're selfish and greedy.

They're a collection of the worst humanity has to offer.

yardwork

(68,141 posts)
37. Mental health issues.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 01:35 PM
13 hrs ago

I'm not blaming people for being ill, but their characters are sick too. They chose the dark way.

MineralMan

(149,815 posts)
15. So it seems.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:17 AM
16 hrs ago

He has no real substance in him. Just appearance. He's going to try to sell that concept to a bunch of old soldiers. It's going to be a very hard sale.

Ocelot II

(127,423 posts)
17. Will he order new uniforms?
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:22 AM
16 hrs ago

Some uniforms from the old days had a kinda snappy look that he'd love.

MineralMan

(149,815 posts)
18. Very Spiffy Duds, to Be Sure!
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:26 AM
16 hrs ago

I do wonder why they all have one hand in their coat pocket. Are they playing with their guns in there?

D. Spaulding

(399 posts)
14. Yes, we know from reports and the Signal chats, he gets off
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:16 AM
16 hrs ago

on the power the idiot gave him. He wants a photo for all the RW echo chambers, of him in front of large numbers of these high ranking military leaders, that are at his beck and call and that he has command over.

MineralMan

(149,815 posts)
16. I wonder if he's able to detect contempt from other people.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:18 AM
16 hrs ago

If so, this will be a shocking gathering for him.

Ocelot II

(127,423 posts)
19. I really don't think he recognizes contempt, or even can even imagine the concept
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:27 AM
16 hrs ago

as applied to him or Dear Leader. He probably interprets all those eyerolls and sighs and looking at watches and phones and side-eye glances that occur when he's present as expressions of fear and respect.

Hey Joe

(236 posts)
25. Whenever I see that poser in his ill fitting suits
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:56 AM
16 hrs ago

that are too tight and too short, I think
of the models in Gentlemen’s Quarterly magazine. All made up pretty with his hair just so…
Like he just walked off the set of Fox news.
He tries way too hard but fails to convey anything but…Look At Meeeee!
This whole administration is right out of reality tv.
Warrior Ethos indeed

Starbeach

(233 posts)
27. Pictures
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 11:34 AM
15 hrs ago

They want pictures of a mass gathering of military officers in rapt obedience, Kim style. And Heg presiding; hard to believe Dapper Don can stay away.

AverageOldGuy

(2,995 posts)
29. I know two Medal of Honor recipients
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 12:33 PM
14 hrs ago

I served 28 years in the Army, Vietnam vet, retired in1995.

I lived next door to an Army MOH recipient for four months before I learned of his award. He had his medal framed in his small, private back of the house study. Quiet, studious guy.

After retiring and moving I did a lot of volunteer work alongside a Marine MOH recipient for several months. He was proud of being a Marine and occasionally, when a few of us were reminiscing, he talked of Marines he knew who were killed in Nam. Never once mentioned his MOH. Learned about it in the local newspaper when he was named Grand Marshall of July 4 parade.

To say Hegseth makes me puke is an understatement.

flashman13

(1,531 posts)
34. What the drunken piss ant Guard major really wants is to lord his position over star officicers. What could go wrong?
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 12:48 PM
14 hrs ago

MineralMan

(149,815 posts)
36. Yes.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 01:07 PM
13 hrs ago

Putting a Guard Major over those seasoned Generals can't possible sit well with them. It has to quietly burn in their minds to listen to him handing down stupid orders that make little or no sense.

What the reaction will be, I do not know.

Initech

(106,407 posts)
39. I just want these fucking psychos and their shitty news networks out of the White House. For good.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 01:38 PM
13 hrs ago
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