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Racygrandma

(162 posts)
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 07:48 PM Friday

Home insurance is changing, and not for the better

I am in Wichita, we had a hail storm September 3, golf ball size. So now our house insurance will not pay for a lot of damage. Talked to the insurance agent, he says this is the trend. The insurance companies have been loosing money so they have been cutting the things they pay for and now they are making money. The big insurance companies have been buying out the smaller companies so they will have a monopoly and can charge whatever they want. We have money put back, so we are okay. Both are in our 70’s.

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Racygrandma

(162 posts)
3. He said they do not pay
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:02 PM
Friday

For a lot of things they used to pay for. The insurance company came out and looked at our roof and would only pay for half the roof, the east side because they said the west side had no damage. They are coming up with things they will not pay for. Home insurance has doubled the past five years

flvegan

(65,307 posts)
12. I'd suggest getting a professional who is not your ins adjuster
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:43 PM
Friday

for a second, written opinion/estimate. The adjuster is paid by the insurance company and are not on your side.

That said, if the adjuster was being truthful, and the roof can be repaired (no damage to half the roof or whatever), rather than replaced, that's probably in line with your policy coverage and limitations. I'm not taking the side of the insurance company, that's just reality.

Totally Tunsie

(11,290 posts)
2. Is not the Policy a contract between policyholder and company?
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 07:58 PM
Friday

Terms are specified and written. Isn't notice required from the company before changing terms?

JoetheShow

(132 posts)
4. I5 depends on the location but I stongly suspect they were still making money
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:03 PM
Friday

They just aren't making as much money as they want.

markodochartaigh

(4,191 posts)
6. Many people know that
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:11 PM
Friday

anthropogenic climate change is increasing hurricanes in Florida. Some people know that insurance companies have said that they can't make a profit because of rampant insurance fraud in Florida. Not so many people know that even with the hurricanes and fraud insurance companies were lying about their profits.

https://murraylawgroup.com/blog/florida-insurance-cover-up

sop

(16,240 posts)
8. Demand your insurance carrier mail a letter (not a verbal denial) stating exactly why your loss is being denied.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:20 PM
Friday

Then have someone you trust review your insurance contract, its exclusions and the denial letter. A bad faith denial of a covered loss can be one of the most expensive mistakes an insurance company can make.

Racygrandma

(162 posts)
9. Man the thing is fema is getting defunded
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:22 PM
Friday

And now your insurance will not pay for it either

Xolodno

(7,183 posts)
10. Property insurance market is a blood bath right now.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:36 PM
Friday

More frequent and larger wildfires in the west. More hurricanes and tripical storms. And more tornados and hail storms, and not just the usual places, in areas where it was really rare.

If you are a property analyst or product manager, good chance you recently got fired.

As they pull away or reduce thier footprint in some market and find ways to reduce the cost of claims, the need for these people become less. So to save the combinded ratio, out the door they go. If you go on linkedin you will see these job opportunities are not in demand as much before. The ones that do open up have 100+ applicants. And this doesn't even include everyone applying on indeed.

I'll be taking my Property and Casualty license exam later next month and then work at a brokerage and sell auto insurance. People that need homeowners, BOP or Commercial Property are mainly in riskier areas and all you can do is place them with the very expensive insurance carrier of last resort.

Racygrandma

(162 posts)
11. The thing this happened in Wichita
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:41 PM
Friday

Not in a rural area, which is what happens most of the time. Watching the weather they can tell where the hail is happening, most of the time in rural areas. Not this time

Xolodno

(7,183 posts)
13. Its no longer just rural areas.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 12:10 AM
Saturday

One company I worked for had me do some studies on our footprint in tornado prone zones which included cities. It wasn't good. Our exposure was horrible. Add that re-insurance companies are also pulling back, your standard bread and butter companies are force to do the same.

mnhtnbb

(32,885 posts)
14. Talk to an insurance claims advocate
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 05:44 AM
Saturday

Who would represent you in fighting the insurance company's decision regarding this claim. Don't take the word of an insurance agent whose job is to sell insurance.

When our house burned down in 2007, our insurance company was refusing to pay full replacement cost--for which we were insured--and what they offered was not enough to pay off the mortgage. We hired a public insurance claims advocate, who negotiated with the insurance company for us, and finally got us what we were owed. He took a % of the additional amount he was able to negotiate, but it was still a lot more than what the insurance company had offered and did enable us to pay off the mortgage. And all the while we were required to make the mortgage payments on a burned down house!

You should at least look into hiring a public advocate before accepting the settlement being offered by the insurance company.

Two public adjuster companies in KS:

Home | Stokes Public Adjusters, LLC https://www.stokesclaims.com/

This second one is based in MO, but they may also be licensed to work in Kansas.

Expert Adjusters | Fair Comp. in Kansas City https://www.adjuster4you.com/

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