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Takket

(23,264 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:00 AM Thursday

Yes Senator Murphy! Yes! A thousand times this!!!

Murphy: "The second remedy is for the Dem Party to make clear that if you give us power, we're gonna break up these media monopolies... if we want to be credible as a critic of Trump's slide to totalitarianism, we have to explain how we're gonna put local communities back in charge of their news."

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-09-25T13:22:47.085Z


We need to BREAK UP and STOP the consolidation of the media!!! Just like we did with the phone company decades ago!!!

It is BAD for the country to have only a few entities deciding what we get to hear, and deciding how much we get to pay for it.

BREAK THEM UP!!!
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Yes Senator Murphy! Yes! A thousand times this!!! (Original Post) Takket Thursday OP
Who was it who signed the Telecommunications Act? gab13by13 Thursday #1
Post removed Post removed Thursday #3
Billy boy John Coktosten Thursday #4
Bravo, but this begs a very important question for Senator Murphy: Fiendish Thingy Thursday #2
monopolies tfury653 Thursday #5
and the result was..... lastlib Thursday #13
You can start by returning to exempting the news programs from having to survive by ratings. OldBaldy1701E Thursday #6
Excellent point. calimary Thursday #7
I don't know it ever worked that way. When did that change? Takket Thursday #9
The late seventies to early eighties. OldBaldy1701E Friday #28
When have news shows ever relied on ratings to survive? SickOfTheOnePct Thursday #11
Well, first we have to find a defiinition of "news shows" progressoid Thursday #17
Ah got it, thanks SickOfTheOnePct Thursday #19
They rely on advertising to survive Captain Zero Friday #26
They don't, really. OldBaldy1701E Friday #29
Sure, a "public service" managed by that great "public servant".... reACTIONary Thursday #15
Yup. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Friday #30
Will never kacekwl Thursday #8
Yes. But let's generalize the advice. Bluetus Thursday #10
break up maliaSmith Thursday #12
It is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else. Theodore Roosevelt Ping Tung Thursday #14
I doubt many MAGAs even know who he is. progressoid Thursday #18
First st3p is expanding the USSC to 13 Warpy Thursday #16
THIS!!! calimary Thursday #24
AND BIG ,MEDIA WILL DESTROY DEMS JUST AS THEY DID DEAN. pansypoo53219 Thursday #20
I think Chris Murphy is one of the best communicators the Dem party has. yellow dahlia Thursday #21
The breakup of the original "Ma Bell", American Telephone & Telegraph, into the Baby Bells dobleremolque Thursday #22
Laughable Captain Obvious .... Too little way too late. I remember the race for media outlets live love laugh Thursday #23
Only problem is Diraven Friday #25
The Telecommunications Act killed progressive/liberal/non-conservative radio. no_hypocrisy Friday #27

Response to gab13by13 (Reply #1)

Fiendish Thingy

(20,863 posts)
2. Bravo, but this begs a very important question for Senator Murphy:
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:22 AM
Thursday

Does he support killing the filibuster?

Because that is what it would take to pass such legislation.

Follow up question:

Does he support expanding the court?

Because that is what it would take to prevent any anti-monopoly legislation from being overturned.

tfury653

(3 posts)
5. monopolies
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:10 PM
Thursday

During Ronald Reagan's presidency, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) began a significant shift towards deregulation of the media, culminating in the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine in 1987. This change was based on the belief that increased competition and a variety of media voices would better serve the public interest and uphold First Amendment rights.

lastlib

(26,757 posts)
13. and the result was.....
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:00 PM
Thursday

LESS competition and LESS variety of media voices and LESS diversity of viewpoints.

Never think that anything Ronald Reagan did was to the benefit of anybody besides the oligarchy class.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,162 posts)
6. You can start by returning to exempting the news programs from having to survive by ratings.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:18 PM
Thursday

Make them the public service that they used to be. Then, a lot of the pressure to 'compete' will be gone and they can start doing what they used to do.

calimary

(87,940 posts)
7. Excellent point.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:24 PM
Thursday

That would be a good move, because news is a public service - and I felt that way for the 20 years I worked in news. It has to be. Otherwise it’s just another “show”.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,162 posts)
28. The late seventies to early eighties.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:16 AM
Friday

The stations were being taken over by those who only saw numbers. So, they decreed that their news programs, which they used to do solely because the FCC 'suggested' they had to do a certain amount of 'public programming', meaning news, or other community assistance. Then, the corporations that were buying up these stations and conglomerates decided that their news shows must have ratings like any other television show. SO, they thumbed their noses at the usual practice and made their news programs vie for ratings like any other show.

Now, how is a news program going to compete with Hollywood?

By being as 'Hollywood' as they could be. Of course, this has a detrimental effect on non-bias as well as presentation, because someone standing and dryly talking to the camera is not as exciting as a reporter charging up and sticking a mic into someone's face whether they like it or not and asking questions that no sensible person would ask at that time.

But, I don't blame the news programs, really. They fell into the new 'format' quickly enough, but they were also fighting for survival. However, the practice of letting the news not be dictated by ratings was removed and that led to the mess that we call 'the news' today.

The internet came along after than, but that is another story, and another reason why the news is not what it used to be.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,673 posts)
11. When have news shows ever relied on ratings to survive?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:36 PM
Thursday

I can't image that newscasts get great ratings.

progressoid

(52,026 posts)
17. Well, first we have to find a defiinition of "news shows"
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:58 PM
Thursday

But that's a different discussion.

Currently Fox "Newz" comes in 3rd in the ratings. MSNBC is 10th.

https://nationalmediaspots.com/stats-us-cable-broadcast-tv-network-rankings/

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,673 posts)
19. Ah got it, thanks
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:55 PM
Thursday

I misunderstood, I was thinking of individuals news shows, like the nightly news, not whole networks.

Yeah, I wouldn't consider any of cable "news" networks like CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News to actually be "news", as most, if not all of their programming is really opinion programming.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,162 posts)
29. They don't, really.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:20 AM
Friday

They started doing it for real in the early eighties.

Suddenly, they went from 'How do we report the news for the people' to 'how do we get ratings to stay on the air?'.

As I said above... it is one of the main reasons that our news went 'Hollywood' in the eighties. Having to compete with reruns of Star Trek and Dr. Who is tough for a program whose most exciting moments come from showing a reporter asking a question.

Also, remember that, until the late nineties, having footage of actual events was very rare. They had to do something else to be 'exciting'.

reACTIONary

(6,733 posts)
15. Sure, a "public service" managed by that great "public servant"....
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:53 PM
Thursday

.... The Sick Fuck. No thanks.

Bluetus

(1,583 posts)
10. Yes. But let's generalize the advice.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:33 PM
Thursday

We get nowhere with a message "Trump is a poopy head"

Americans get that. But they think most politicians from BOTH parties are all poopy heads.

We need to have specific ideas, clear actions we promise to fight for, if the American people will support us. And if they give us a governing majority, then we promise we will get these SPECIFIC things done.

Breaking up the monopolies is a very good starting point. We have cartels acting in nearly every major industry: insurance, telecom, pharma, the media and so on. We SHOULD act on that.

But there are also very specific things we should running on in other areas. We should have specific plans for making billionaires pay their fair share for the society that has made them spectacularly wealthy and provides then the safety to hoard their wealth.

We should have a specific plan for cutting our HC costs in half. And the only plan that gets us there is Medicare for all.

We should have specific plans, not just vague talk, about gun violence, and that must include eliminating the military assault weapons.

We must deal with the accelerating cost of university-level education. Where are the specific proposals? A first step is to charge student loans the lowest interest rate that the biggest corporations get.

And so on.

These are all ideas the public supports by strong majorities, even before candidates get out in from of that parade.

maliaSmith

(98 posts)
12. break up
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:39 PM
Thursday

If we are talking about breakups, how about breaking up Amazon which is a monopoly. Just like ATT was broken up years ago.

Ping Tung

(3,760 posts)
14. It is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else. Theodore Roosevelt
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:12 PM
Thursday

Warpy

(113,967 posts)
16. First st3p is expanding the USSC to 13
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:55 PM
Thursday

because there is no way the presently constituted Roberts court is going to allow monopolies to be broken up, they love monopolies, unfairness, illegality, and wealth concentration.

yellow dahlia

(3,216 posts)
21. I think Chris Murphy is one of the best communicators the Dem party has.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:19 PM
Thursday

He explains things in a way that makes them relevant - he connects the dots. He doesn't just recite the same old talking points and platitudes.

dobleremolque

(1,061 posts)
22. The breakup of the original "Ma Bell", American Telephone & Telegraph, into the Baby Bells
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 08:43 PM
Thursday

took about 10 years, from the original 1974 anti-trust lawsuit until 1982 consent degree, with a target date of Jan. 1, 1984 for the breakup into the seven "Baby Bells" to be completed.

I'd give the media monopolies less time than that to divest, say two years or four years maximum.

live love laugh

(15,937 posts)
23. Laughable Captain Obvious .... Too little way too late. I remember the race for media outlets
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:46 PM
Thursday

in radio in the late 90’s when Limbaugh dominated. We had a slim chance then. Air America floundered and the internet exploded. Thom Hartman even talked about how, back then, he communicated this idea to some Dems, they poo poo’d it and here we are.

Media equality will take as long as it takes to rebuild the shambles of the foundation of the country—at least half a century primarily because of the overwhelmingly biased and purposely controlled messaging due to the inequivalency in media.

It pisses me off that this hasn’t been a primary ongoing issue.

no_hypocrisy

(53,225 posts)
27. The Telecommunications Act killed progressive/liberal/non-conservative radio.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 05:47 AM
Friday

Nearly all these stations were purchased by corporations that now broadcast syndicated MAGA formats.

And these programs have become the template for Republicans in all elected offices. There are virtually no voices of dissent both on radio, television, and cable -- not even programs sterilized of political persuasion.

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