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Zorro

(17,942 posts)
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:43 PM Wednesday

High Earners Age 50 and Older Are About to Lose a Major 401(k) Tax Break

The option to make pretax catch-up retirement contributions is going away for those savers

One of the biggest retirement-saving perks for workers age 50 and older is about to get new restrictions.

Starting next year, the extra catch-up contributions that those workers use to stow money in their 401(k)s will have to go into their accounts after tax for high earners. The Internal Revenue Service issued final rules this month on a 2022 law, which set the threshold for a high earner at more than $145,000 in wages.

This change means many workers will pay taxes on their catch-up money upfront during high-earning years instead of in lower-earning years in retirement. The money would go into a Roth account, where it can later be withdrawn tax-free.

It is the first time the tax code is mandating Roth savings, which give the government its cut up front.

A 60-year-old in the 35% tax bracket could lose a nearly $4,000 deduction for an $11,250 super catch-up contribution. That raises adjusted gross income, which could disqualify people from other tax breaks that phase out at higher income levels, such as deductions for student-loan interest and for state and local taxes. It could also push these workers into higher tax brackets.

https://www.wsj.com/personal-finance/retirement/high-earners-age-50-and-older-are-about-to-lose-a-major-401-k-tax-break-75572091?st=ovkEhT&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
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High Earners Age 50 and Older Are About to Lose a Major 401(k) Tax Break (Original Post) Zorro Wednesday OP
This absolutely blows Johnny2X2X Wednesday #1
That will definitely affect me. Happy Hoosier Wednesday #2
It seems like post-tax Roth IRAs are better deals, anyway. Gore1FL Wednesday #3
Agreed this sucks -- particularly if most of your retirement is in 403B or 401 K JT45242 Wednesday #4

Johnny2X2X

(23,453 posts)
1. This absolutely blows
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:48 PM
Wednesday

I've been doing catchup amounts for a few years. I guess a Roth starting next year makes some sense, but it hurts me in the long run.

Happy Hoosier

(9,104 posts)
2. That will definitely affect me.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:53 PM
Wednesday

Welp. I mean, I guess it'll go into a Roth, so there's that... but I'm definitely in a higher tax bracket now that I will be in retirement.

Gore1FL

(22,605 posts)
3. It seems like post-tax Roth IRAs are better deals, anyway.
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:57 PM
Wednesday

That's where I put all of my retirement savings.

JT45242

(3,642 posts)
4. Agreed this sucks -- particularly if most of your retirement is in 403B or 401 K
Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:18 PM
Wednesday

For most of us who can afford to save for retirement the primarily vehicle is a 403 B (non profit) or 401k (for profit) retirement account with matching funds from your employer. It reduces taxes now when you are making more money and gets "free" money from your employer. They budgeted it as part of your salary but some people do not put enough to take the full match amounts.

When I left teaching, I rolled my state teacher pension funds into my 403b at the nonprofit.

No reason for me to do an IRA, easier to have one account.

I even asked the financial planner.

If you start early with a Roth, then it is good to go about half and half. Defray some taxes until later and have some tax free income later as well. But, few people early in their careers can save much more than what is required for company matching.

I was 20 years into my career with everything in tax deferred because of rolling over a pension. He said, I could do an IRA to get some tax free money later but given that the overwhelming amount would be in the 403b/401k type funds it would not benefit me to put my overage above matching into a Roth. Especially since I had two kids who still had to go to college and reducing my pretax earnings would help for student loans.

I'll be 57 when the younger one graduates college -- there is not much incentive to put money in the Roth at that point.

This sucks

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