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tblue37

(67,204 posts) Tue Sep 23, 2025, 03:48 PM Sep 23

More than 1500 detainees are missing after the closure of Alligator Alcatraz.

More than 1800 detainees are missing after the closure of Alligator Alcatraz. Their families and lawyers canâ€™t find them and theyâ€™ve vanished from the ICE database. Feels like this should be a much bigger story www.miamiherald.com/news/local/i...
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More than 1500 detainees are missing after the closure of Alligator Alcatraz. (Original Post) tblue37 Sep 23 OP

You know that cup scam where a marble is moved around under 3 cups so you can't figure out tblue37 Sep 23 #1

That's assuming they're still alive... regnaD kciN Sep 23 #4

Fat alligators? maveric Sep 23 #2

They're dead and this administration will be guilty of genocide kimbutgar Sep 23 #3

If true, a MUCH bigger story for sure. B.See Sep 23 #5

K&R B.See Wednesday #15

In separate news, the market for "donated" organs in the US jumped and now eclipses the Chinese market. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 23 #6

Yikes! some_of_us_are_sane Sep 23 #8

I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For struggle4progress Sep 23 #7

First, Alligator Alcatraz Greg_In_SF Sep 23 #9

Thanks. tblue37 Sep 23 #10

As the article points out, there is a federal database and these people are missing from there too LymphocyteLover Wednesday #13

The facility is run by Greg_In_SF Wednesday #14

Is the fl division of emergency management a public document? Marthe48 Friday #20

I'm not sure how it works Greg_In_SF Saturday #22

1800....where the f are they? spanone Sep 23 #11

Horrifying! I do hope there is a non-death camp explanation for this. LymphocyteLover Wednesday #12

2 options Johnny2X2X Wednesday #16

Or they sold them Bettie Wednesday #17

K&R. Because if Trump can disappear these people with nary a whisper, B.See Friday #18

This is anti-Christian in extremis Champp Friday #19

It's potentially WAY more than that. B.See Saturday #21

tblue37

(67,204 posts)

1. You know that cup scam where a marble is moved around under 3 cups so you can't figure out

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 03:51 PM

Sep 23

where it could possibly be?

regnaD kciN

(27,314 posts)

4. That's assuming they're still alive...

Reply to tblue37 (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 03:55 PM

Sep 23

Who needs crematoria when you’ve got alligators?

maveric

(16,940 posts)

2. Fat alligators?

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 03:54 PM

Sep 23

kimbutgar

(26,161 posts)

3. They're dead and this administration will be guilty of genocide

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 03:54 PM

Sep 23

I wouldn’t put it past them.

B.See

(6,811 posts)

5. If true, a MUCH bigger story for sure.

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 04:00 PM

Sep 23

On top of all the other "should've been bigger stories" relating to Trump's immigration scandals and his ICE gestapo-like actions.

Families, lawyers can't find them? Disappeared from ICE database?? Whatever can it mean?

Smells like straight up NAZI shit to me.

B.See

(6,811 posts)

15. K&R

Reply to B.See (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:09 PM

Wednesday

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,972 posts)

6. In separate news, the market for "donated" organs in the US jumped and now eclipses the Chinese market. . . . nt

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 04:02 PM

Sep 23

some_of_us_are_sane

(2,157 posts)

8. Yikes!

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 04:32 PM

Sep 23

struggle4progress

(124,699 posts)

7. I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 04:05 PM

Sep 23

Greg_In_SF

(607 posts)

9. First, Alligator Alcatraz

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 04:41 PM

Sep 23

is not closed. Second, they didn't vanish from the ICE database. They were never in the database because Alligator Alcatraz is a State run facility.

tblue37

(67,204 posts)

10. Thanks.

Reply to Greg_In_SF (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 04:48 PM

Sep 23

LymphocyteLover

(8,821 posts)

13. As the article points out, there is a federal database and these people are missing from there too

Reply to Greg_In_SF (Reply #9)

Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:32 PM

Wednesday

Greg_In_SF

(607 posts)

14. The facility is run by

Reply to LymphocyteLover (Reply #13)

Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:38 PM

Wednesday

the Florida Division of Emergency Management. The detainees at Alligator Alcatraz are not in the custody of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, hence the absence of their names in the federal database.

Marthe48

(21,955 posts)

20. Is the fl division of emergency management a public document?

Reply to Greg_In_SF (Reply #14)

Fri Sep 26, 2025, 05:42 PM

Friday

Is there any public record of the people who were sent to that place by i.c.e ? Or any of the other detainment camps?

Why can't their families and lawyers get in touch with 1800 people?

Greg_In_SF

(607 posts)

22. I'm not sure how it works

Reply to Marthe48 (Reply #20)

Sat Sep 27, 2025, 03:40 PM

Saturday

if ICE arrests someone and then sends them to a State run facility. I would assume the State has records, but don't really know.

spanone

(140,300 posts)

11. 1800....where the f are they?

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2025, 04:48 PM

Sep 23

LymphocyteLover

(8,821 posts)

12. Horrifying! I do hope there is a non-death camp explanation for this.

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2025, 02:31 PM

Wednesday

Johnny2X2X

(23,456 posts)

16. 2 options

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:22 PM

Wednesday

Either these people are dead. Or the numbers were inflated in order to make money.

Bettie

(18,913 posts)

17. Or they sold them

Reply to Johnny2X2X (Reply #16)

Wed Sep 24, 2025, 03:24 PM

Wednesday

as slaves and don't want any records.

Who the fuck knows what the monsters in charge of this would to do people.

B.See

(6,811 posts)

18. K&R. Because if Trump can disappear these people with nary a whisper,

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Sep 26, 2025, 05:29 PM

Friday

he can disappear the rest of us as well.

Alligator Alcatraz Is an ‘Extrajudicial Black Site,’ Immigrant Advocates Say as Detainees Disappear - Common Dreams

According to the Miami Herald, over 1,000 detainees in Florida’s immigrant internment camp have effectively “disappeared,” with family and attorneys unable to track their whereabouts.

Reporters found that around 800 of the people on the rosters do not appear on Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Online Detainee Locator System, which provides publicly available information about the court status and locations of people who have been jailed by immigration enforcement. Another 450 had no location listed and instead merely instructed users to “Call ICE for details.”

The Herald also found that the vast majority of the detainees in the system did not have final orders of removal issued against them by immigration judges, which would be required for their deportation. Nevertheless, the detainees’ families and attorneys have been left unable to find them.

Champp

(2,202 posts)

19. This is anti-Christian in extremis

Reply to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Sep 26, 2025, 05:34 PM

Friday

why do Republicans hate and disrespect the teachings of Christ?

This is outright evil.

B.See

(6,811 posts)

21. It's potentially WAY more than that.

Reply to Champp (Reply #19)

Sat Sep 27, 2025, 03:33 PM

Saturday

At what point, I wonder, does something like this garner appropriate outrage? Picked up, abducted, then disappeared?

At what point do we begin mentioning words like criminal, 'atrocity,' and such?

When 2000 disappear? Five thousand? 10? 20? 40? a million? or more?

Conversely, Is the loss of any ONE, if incarcerated and spirited away under dubious if not devious means, of lesser importance, especially to their wives, children, family members,

than the loss of another? Do they not also mourn?

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