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pat_k

(11,617 posts)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 07:42 PM Monday

To the six black-robed traitors on SCOTUS:

Keep your Dirty, Immoral, Un-American Christian-Nationalist hands off the Federal Circuit's en banc ruling striking down 47's tariffs.

Just SAY NO! Deny any emergency motion. Deny certionari of any appeal.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/divided-federal-circuit-gets-it-right-on-trumps-unlawful-tariffs/

....
The three judges of the CIT found unanimously, with good reason, that the worldwide and retaliatory tariffs “lack any identifiable limits” and are “unbounded . . . by any limitation in duration or scope” and thus did not fit IEEPA’s statutory definition of an emergency tariff.

Trump supporters have argued that Congress has delegated broad authorities to the president to set tariffs under a variety of statutes. But each such delegation has different conditions and limitations; what matters is that these tariffs have been justified and defended in court as national emergencies under IEEPA. The courts have been unpersuaded that we live in a state of permanent national emergency that is global in scope and decades-long in duration, requiring swift executive action on the theory that Congress could never assemble in time to address the issue.

As the court noted, it’s not even obvious that the statutory language (of IEEPA) delegates any tariff power at all. Consider what the statute empowers the president to do:

investigate, block during the pendency of an investigation, regulate, direct and compel, nullify, void, prevent or prohibit, any acquisition, holding, with-holding, use, transfer, withdrawal, transportation, importation or exportation of, or dealing in, or exercising any right, power, or privilege with respect to, or transactions involving, any property in which any foreign country or a national thereof has any interest by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.


As the court observed:

Notably, when drafting IEEPA, Congress did not use the term “tariff” or any of its synonyms, like “duty” or “tax.” There are numerous statutes that do delegate to the President the power to impose tariffs; in each of these statutes that we have identified, Congress has used clear and precise terms to delegate tariff power, reciting the term “duties” or one of its synonyms. In contrast, none of these statutes uses the broad term “regulate” without also separately and explicitly granting the President the authority to impose tariffs. The absence of any such tariff language in IEEPA contrasts with statutes where Congress has affirmatively granted such power and included clear limits on that power.

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Three concurring judges, while joining the opinion, added their concern that Trump’s “interpretation of IEEPA would be a functionally limitless delegation of Congressional taxation authority,” which would present serious constitutional questions — a position for which they invoked the views of Justice Neil Gorsuch.


You bastards already gave the U.S. President the immunity of a King. Don't give that office the taxation authority of a King.

And while you are at it, perhaps, be on the look out for cases that will enable you to overturn the horrific decisions you have handed down in the past three decades.

It is not too late to redeem yourselves, and thereby redeem the soul of the nation.

Wouldn't you say that events have proven SCOTUS has been abso-fucking-lutely wrong on almost every major decision in recent history?

Our constitutional democracy was designed to move TOWARD, not AWAY FROM "A more perfect union" Isn't it time to admit that the rights we formerly enjoyed as human beings living under that constitutional democracy have been so undermined by your decisions that finding some good cases that will enable you to overturn those decisions is a moral imperative?

If you allow the immunity you granted in Trump v. United States to stand; if corporations with bottomless pockets continue to enjoy the right to unlimited political spending that you granted in Citizen's United is allowed to stand; if the right to control women you granted in Dobbs is allowed to stand, you might as well just tear up that constitution SCOTUS was designed to uphold.

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pat_k

(11,617 posts)
2. I know. But never say never. Flying pigs could be in our future.
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 08:00 PM
Monday

The way things have unfolded in my six-plus decades on the planet, f-ing anything could happen.

pat_k

(11,617 posts)
4. Sadly, me neither.
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 08:38 PM
Monday

But who knows? Perhaps Christians Against Christian Nationalism or similar effort will take off as the horrific reality of how far off the tracks we are cannot be ignored even by the most dedicated ostrich. Or perhaps an Exit-MAGA movement akin to Exit-Deutschland will gain ground. There are little signs of hope, like https://leavingmaga.org/

But, while we may see the winds shift among the general public, the black-robed traitors who have been packed onto courts across the land just have too much of their identity tied up in their belief in the insanity, as do the unbelievable number of electeds and "rank and file" fascists the heritage foundation identified for recruitment into the 47 regime. I'm not banking on there being many, or even any, defectors from those ranks.

And it's not like they haven't been telling us precisely how twisted, immoral, and downright evil their thinking is. Project 2025 was "lightweight" compared to publications like "Unhumans" -- the far, far, far right dystopian vision of fascism saving the world (Forward by Bannon, blurbed by J.D. Vance, Don Jr., and Tucker Carlson, among others).

Opinion
JD Vance Just Blurbed a Book Arguing That Progressives Are Subhuman
Michelle Goldberg
8/5/2024
Paywall free link to NYTimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/05/opinion/jd-vance-fascism-unhumans.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Bk4.xGes.1_ONuyrQ-M2p&smid=url-share

The Army of God Comes Out of the Shadows
Tens of millions of American Christians are embracing a charismatic movement known as the New Apostolic Reformation, which seeks to destroy the secular state.
By Stephanie McCrummen
1/9/2025
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/02/new-apostolic-reformation-christian-movement-trump/681092/?gift=CiksPDoBurvFhUHnw_O61r8aU14xWIfhmQHLbuINSxg&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share




yonder

(10,125 posts)
5. Seems like the House basically taking the summer off
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 10:51 PM
Monday

negates any argument

"that we live in a state of permanent national emergency that is global in scope"

That and Trumps
“interpretation of IEEPA would be a functionally limitless delegation of Congressional taxation authority,”

This layman just doesn't see how the SC can rule in the administration's favour though with this court I've come to expect disappointment.

pat_k

(11,617 posts)
7. It is difficult to imagine what sort of rationale would be offerred to give 47 what he wants...
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 12:32 AM
Tuesday

... but then, I couldn't imagine what rationale SCOTUS could possibly come up with to stop the counting of votes in Bush v. Gore.

Of course, as Justice Breyer pointed out, the only thing that Bush v. Gore actually accomplished was to render the election in FL incomplete, and therefore unlawful under FL law... and that now it was up to Congress to pass judgement on the legality of those electors. Of course, the majority in Bush v. Gore made it clear they they knew the ruling was baseless with their admonition that the ruling did not set any sort of precedent.

slightlv

(6,524 posts)
6. I read one of the articles, the one titled
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 11:48 PM
Monday
The Army of God Comes Out of the Shadows
. Although it is good as an overall sight into the movement, there have been other, more indepth articles. I wish everyone would read what this organization is, where it comes from, and where it intends for us all to end up. It's a scary-as-hell organization. And it means, most sincerely, to take over all aspects of life in America. It is not a future you want to end up living.

pat_k

(11,617 posts)
8. The New Apostolic Reformation is scary as hell.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 01:53 AM
Tuesday

But then again, so is Christian Nationalism in general. I need to do more research. Any recommendation for reading/viewing would be appreciated.

The title of the article originally confused me a bit because I have "The Army of God" coded as the anti-abortion terrorist group. For example, the 2000 documentary "Soldiers in the Army of God"

slightlv

(6,524 posts)
9. Army of God is also the name, I think I remember correctly,
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 04:10 PM
Tuesday

for a paramilitary group in Africa someplace. But the brain isn't firing on all cylinders today. I apologize. There was a long time writer over at DKos whose father helped build up the Dominionists and Evangelicals, who has spent decades trying to apologize and undo what he helped his father achieve. I wish I could remember his name. His articles over there were fantastic... scary as hell, but fantastic in the amount of information he gave and the background.

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