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BigmanPigman

(53,570 posts) Mon Sep 1, 2025, 04:54 PM Monday

What was being thrown out of the window at the White House?

Jump to the 4:00 mark...

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I looked on DU to see if anyone posted this to provide me with some answers. I can't figure out why anyone would throw stuff out of an upper floor window where everyone can see you. Odd!
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What was being thrown out of the window at the White House? (Original Post) BigmanPigman Monday OP
Someone posted earlier & 1 of responses was that SheltieLover Monday #1
Yeah, I'd forgotten the windows. buzzycrumbhunger Monday #4
It does! SheltieLover Monday #5
I just saw that DU post but it was on Google. BigmanPigman Monday #26
Yes, me too SheltieLover Monday #28
Here is orig DU thread I referenced SheltieLover Monday #29
Yes, that's it! BigmanPigman Monday #42
Too small and not orange. Unfortunately. jls4561 Monday #2
Maybe a massive diaper blowout? buzzycrumbhunger Monday #3
I looked at it several times BigmanPigman Monday #6
So we hear all about the new ballroom (for four minutes) before anything about the "objects out a window". Jeez, get.... FadedMullet Monday #7
I just added the 4:00 mark in my post. BigmanPigman Monday #9
And I'm sorry about my petty complaining. I usually try to do better than that. Even hesitated this time, but I guess.. FadedMullet Monday #12
No, I feel the same way BigmanPigman Monday #16
;-{) Goonch Monday #8
Tell me, please. When you searched for a stock image of a soiled diaper, were there hundreds to choose from? FadedMullet Monday #14
It's an AI test video plant to gauge human reaction as emotional or fact checking. ancianita Monday #10
Do you mean... OneGrassRoot Monday #18
Yes. AI is being used by all kinds of orgs now. Given Occupy Democrats' past performance, I wouldn't ancianita Monday #21
WH already said it is not fake. Kingofalldems 22 hrs ago #46
Okay, then. I stand corrected; if the WH says it, then so be it because ancianita 22 hrs ago #48
I'm curious how they got the footage? LeftInTX Monday #20
AI can produce any video footage you prompt it for . ancianita Monday #22
I know. But if it's real, how did they get the footage? LeftInTX Monday #23
You buy the AI service. ancianita Monday #24
It's real. WH (not Trump) said it was contractor doing regular maintenance work LeftInTX 22 hrs ago #44
Okay, then. You make fair points. And I can't find any digital proof that it isn't. So thanks for your post. ancianita 22 hrs ago #45
Do you have any evidence of this? Feel Good Inc Monday #33
Do you have evidence that it's not? ancianita Monday #34
I'm not the one making a definitive claim. You did. Feel Good Inc Monday #35
You're the one claiming I made a definitive claim. . ancianita Monday #36
You said this: "It's an AI test video plant to gauge human reaction as emotional or fact checking" Wiz Imp Monday #37
You did make the claim, tho. Feel Good Inc Monday #38
And you didn't read my links posted directly to you. ancianita Monday #39
You did not post those in the original message I replied to... Feel Good Inc Monday #40
My theory is that a large bird (hawk or falcon) got into the White House Jrose Monday #11
They smell a dead carcass. Aviation Pro Monday #13
Beware of Occupy Democrats, BP. ancianita Monday #15
Thanks! Good to know. BigmanPigman Monday #17
at the 4:00 mark Skittles Monday #19
Damn, hoping it was trump by his puppet master. republianmushroom Monday #25
Billie Joe McAllister? Diamond_Dog Monday #27
Body Parts? MrWowWow Monday #30
Trump's dirty diapers maybe? WVGIRL Monday #31
Empty ketchup bottles. nt doc03 Monday #32
The Epstein files.... Jack Valentino Monday #41
It's been confirmed to be real Wiz Imp Yesterday #43
I saw that on Meidas about an hour ago..... BigmanPigman 21 hrs ago #49
Looks like the gatekeepers lost on this one bigtime. Kingofalldems 22 hrs ago #47

SheltieLover

(73,209 posts)
1. Someone posted earlier & 1 of responses was that
Reply to BigmanPigman (Original post)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 04:56 PM
Monday

Windows are sealed & bulletproof. So to toss something, the glass would have to be removed.

Also that contractors are not allowed at WH is slob is squatting there.

No idea if accurate, just sharing what I read.

BigmanPigman

(53,570 posts)
26. I just saw that DU post but it was on Google.
Reply to SheltieLover (Reply #1)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 06:38 PM
Monday

At about 7:15 AM. I had to go back and read those posts. I'm still hoping someone will legitimately investigate what the hell is going on.

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,315 posts)
3. Maybe a massive diaper blowout?
Reply to BigmanPigman (Original post)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 04:58 PM
Monday

Something so foul, no one wanted the stench lingering through the hallways?

Or maybe some quick thinker trying to get evidence out the door without getting caught?

Everything about these people is just so fkg weird and shady. *shrug*

BigmanPigman

(53,570 posts)
6. I looked at it several times
Reply to buzzycrumbhunger (Reply #3)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:06 PM
Monday

and it seems to me the first one was a person's leg on the windowsill. The diaper thing would be a possibility but sealed windows makes it unlikely. Someone with digital technology should zoom in on that.

FadedMullet

(448 posts)
7. So we hear all about the new ballroom (for four minutes) before anything about the "objects out a window". Jeez, get....
Reply to BigmanPigman (Original post)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:06 PM
Monday

......a grip people, you may love the sound of your voice, but......

BigmanPigman

(53,570 posts)
9. I just added the 4:00 mark in my post.
Reply to FadedMullet (Reply #7)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:08 PM
Monday

Last edited Mon Sep 1, 2025, 06:39 PM - Edit history (1)

I should have done that originally. Sorry.

FadedMullet

(448 posts)
12. And I'm sorry about my petty complaining. I usually try to do better than that. Even hesitated this time, but I guess..
Reply to BigmanPigman (Reply #9)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:16 PM
Monday

.......that damned ballroom aggravated me too much again. Sorry, Bigman.

BigmanPigman

(53,570 posts)
16. No, I feel the same way
Reply to FadedMullet (Reply #12)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:30 PM
Monday

and it is my fault since I DID have to sit through a few minutes about the ballroom and I skipped ahead to find the part about the trash being tossed out when I first watched it.

FadedMullet

(448 posts)
14. Tell me, please. When you searched for a stock image of a soiled diaper, were there hundreds to choose from?
Reply to Goonch (Reply #8)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:18 PM
Monday

If there were, I'm taking it as another sign of the impending demise of our civilization.

OneGrassRoot

(23,813 posts)
18. Do you mean...
Reply to ancianita (Reply #10)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:33 PM
Monday

it’s a fake/AI video and someone is monitoring how many people believe anything based on how viral it goes? If so, that tracks.

ancianita

(41,563 posts)
21. Yes. AI is being used by all kinds of orgs now. Given Occupy Democrats' past performance, I wouldn't
Reply to OneGrassRoot (Reply #18)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:53 PM
Monday

be surprised that they use AI. It's cheaper, and they can still get money for clicks.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20603059

ancianita

(41,563 posts)
48. Okay, then. I stand corrected; if the WH says it, then so be it because
Reply to Kingofalldems (Reply #46)
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:10 PM
22 hrs ago

I get the broken clock analogy. Thanks.

LeftInTX

(33,488 posts)
23. I know. But if it's real, how did they get the footage?
Reply to ancianita (Reply #22)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 06:05 PM
Monday

That's why I'm a bit skeptical that it's real.

If it's real, it would likely be construction workers tossing junk to pick up later. (Which they often do) But it's the WH, not my house...LOL SS would probably have a fit if they threw stuff.

ancianita

(41,563 posts)
24. You buy the AI service.
Reply to LeftInTX (Reply #23)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 06:12 PM
Monday

Take a look at this long article about how the author uses his AI constantly. Read especially the part where he's asking ChatGPT to give a history of the neighborhood he's walking in, and then when it gets boring he prompts it thus: "Avoid cliches and general statements like "The building contributes to the vibrancy of the neighborhood, and go with lurid facts." And immediately he get info about past murders, Sid Vicious' being charged with murder of his girlfriend in that neighborhood blah blah..."
I hope you'll get the drift about the extent of AI uses by all kinds of sectors and demographics.

https://archive.ph/k6ESX

We are up against AI consumers and AI using operatives. We have to learn how this tech ish works.

LeftInTX

(33,488 posts)
44. It's real. WH (not Trump) said it was contractor doing regular maintenance work
Reply to ancianita (Reply #24)
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:01 PM
22 hrs ago
https://time.com/7313902/white-house-video-window/

“It was a contractor who was doing regular maintenance while the President was gone,” the White House official said in a statement in response to questions about the images.


Article is worth a read for details. I think the Daily Beast had more details.

Weird stuff happens at the WH now and then. I do know that contractors like to throw stuff out of windows because it's more convenient than going up and down stairs. (Been there done that and so has anyone who owns a two story house. ) But it's the WH and stuff like that probably shouldn't be going on over there.

ancianita

(41,563 posts)
45. Okay, then. You make fair points. And I can't find any digital proof that it isn't. So thanks for your post.
Reply to LeftInTX (Reply #44)
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:04 PM
22 hrs ago

Truth matters, not AI.

Feel Good Inc

(20 posts)
33. Do you have any evidence of this?
Reply to ancianita (Reply #10)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 07:45 PM
Monday

Beyond just claiming it? Like - you ran specific forensics online about the video that shows it's xx% likely AI?

ancianita

(41,563 posts)
34. Do you have evidence that it's not?
Reply to Feel Good Inc (Reply #33)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 08:04 PM
Monday

Did you challenge the previous poster's factual claim that sealed & bullet proof WH windows can't be opened? https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20603005

No? Well, at least I've made a case for it.
You haven't even looked at who the sponsor of the video is, have you.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20603059

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20603155

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20603113

If you want to help figure whether or not videos are AI generated, here's a start.



Here's a post of Rachel Maddow from a month ago.



If you expect or demand people that people do video forensics to fact check AI use, maybe rethink that.

Feel Good Inc

(20 posts)
35. I'm not the one making a definitive claim. You did.
Reply to ancianita (Reply #34)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 08:11 PM
Monday

You didn't say, "It could be an AI test video plant to gauge human reaction as emotional or fact checking...". You said: "It's an AI test video plant to gauge human reaction as emotional or fact checking..." - that's why I asked. You seem certain it's AI and I just wanted to know what made you conclude that.

I never claimed in this thread - at any point - it's not AI. I don't know if it's real or not, which is why I am trying to understand why you're saying it's definitely AI.

ancianita

(41,563 posts)
36. You're the one claiming I made a definitive claim. .
Reply to Feel Good Inc (Reply #35)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 08:17 PM
Monday
I don't know if it's real or not, which is why I am trying to understand why you're saying it's definitely AI.


I made the CASE for it being AI generated, which, after my effort post to you, is clear you haven't taken sufficient time to examine.

And when it comes to more than one poster here making factual claims, it seems apparent that you challenge who you want to challenge.

I'm not doing the work for you. Either look at my links or we're done here.

Wiz Imp

(6,761 posts)
37. You said this: "It's an AI test video plant to gauge human reaction as emotional or fact checking"
Reply to ancianita (Reply #36)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 08:31 PM
Monday

That 's the very definition of a definitive claim. (No "I think", or "I believe", or "in my opinion" - nope, just "it's an AI test video plant", period).

Feel Good Inc

(20 posts)
38. You did make the claim, tho.
Reply to ancianita (Reply #36)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 08:43 PM
Monday

This is a definitive claim:

It's an AI test video plant to gauge human reaction as emotional or fact checking.

And you made no case in the message I replied to. I think any person who reads that post would deduce you were making a definitive claim - not a speculative one.

Feel Good Inc

(20 posts)
40. You did not post those in the original message I replied to...
Reply to ancianita (Reply #39)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 10:06 PM
Monday

...which started this whole thing. I just asked for evidence of this DIRECT FOOTAGE. You still haven't provided anything beyond the fact AI video exists and can be used to manipulate ... but that doesn't prove or disprove anything in this video.

But again, that was not anywhere in your initial post, which definitively said it was AI. Not maybe AI. Not you think it's AI - but that it was AI.

Jrose

(1,487 posts)
11. My theory is that a large bird (hawk or falcon) got into the White House
Reply to BigmanPigman (Original post)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:16 PM
Monday

and flew up into that room... so that window was opened and the bird was tossed out.
Also saw recent photos online of many large, dark birds gathering in front of the White House.
Ominous!

ancianita

(41,563 posts)
15. Beware of Occupy Democrats, BP.
Reply to BigmanPigman (Original post)
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 05:25 PM
Monday
Evaluation by academia
In 2017, the Asan Institute for Policy Studies said that Occupy Democrats "share[s] both real and fake news ... further blurring the line between fact and fiction".[14] Some scientific studies have identified Occupy Democrats as a fake news website.[46][47][48][49]

According to the University of Iowa library, Occupy Democrats "has been known to show misleading, fake, or exaggerated partisan content".[22] The Valencia College library includes Occupy Democrats on a list of sources that "cannot usually be accepted at face value and need further verification from other sources to determine if information is credible".[50] In a 2017 poster session developed by the library staff of the University of California at Merced, Occupy Democrats was rated "questionable" for its factual reporting and was noted for "not having a very good fact check record".[51]

Evaluation by media
Occupy Democrats has repeatedly been criticized by fact-checking websites for posting "exaggerated or invented news stories". Brooke Binkowski, a managing editor at Snopes, commented that Occupy Democrats' headlines were often "extremely misleading".[33]

According to The Atlantic, Occupy Democrats' posts are "studded with straightforwardly fake news".[16] The Los Angeles Weekly reports that its posts are "free from the constraints of objectivity and, in some cases, facts".[5] A 2016 BuzzFeed News analysis found it was "the least accurate left-wing page" of several Facebook pages it reviewed and cited one instance where it published a satirical story as fact.[52] In the run-up to the 2020 U.S. presidential election, The New York Times reported that Occupy Democrats "twisted facts to push a critical narrative about Republicans".[53]

In 2017, PolitiFact included Occupy Democrats in its list of fake news websites. However, PolitiFact later removed Occupy Democrats from its list of fake news sites and, according to the Miami New Times, "admitted Occupy Democrats should never have been on the list in the first place".[54] As of December 2020, PolitiFact classified 62% of 16 posts shared by Occupy Democrats it had evaluated as "not accurate".[55] A further 31% it considered "half-true".[55]

In 2021, a post shared by Occupy Democrats claimed Nikki Haley had changed her first name to sound more "white" in order to further her political career.[56] A fact check column by USA Today reported that Nikki was her legal middle name, she had used it as a given name since childhood, and that it was of ethnic Punjabi origin...

Popular perception
In a 2017 survey among US readers, Occupy Democrats was voted the "least trusted news source" among American readers, just below Breitbart News and BuzzFeed.[66] In September 2018, the English Wikipedia deprecated Occupy Democrats as a source due to its unreliability.[67][68] In an October 2018 Simmons Research survey of 38 news organizations, Occupy Democrats was ranked the third least-trusted news organization by Americans, underneath Breitbart News, the Daily Kos and the Palmer Report, with InfoWars and The Daily Caller being lower-ranked.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Democrats

A LOT of AI is going to be used in the midterms runup. We need to stay aware of this.

Wiz Imp

(6,761 posts)
43. It's been confirmed to be real
Reply to BigmanPigman (Original post)
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 03:56 PM
Yesterday
https://time.com/7313902/white-house-video-window/
White House Says Viral Video of Object Tossed Out Window Was Result of ‘Regular Maintenance’
A video posted online on Monday of a black bag being heaved out of the White House showed maintenance work being done by a contractor, according to a White House official.

The video was originally posted on an Instagram account called “Washingtonianprobs” and spread widely on social media, prompting jokes about White House security protocol and speculation about what was being thrown out. It shows a person wearing white pants stepping a foot out onto a windowsill on the second floor of the White House and tossing down what appears to be a black plastic bag. Later someone tosses something long and white out the window. The second floor of the White House is where the President’s private residence is located.

“It was a contractor who was doing regular maintenance while the President was gone,” the White House official said in a statement in response to questions about the images.


I'm sure all those people who insisted it was AI will be back to admit they were wrong


BigmanPigman

(53,570 posts)
49. I saw that on Meidas about an hour ago.....
Reply to Wiz Imp (Reply #43)
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 06:18 PM
21 hrs ago

I'm surprised that a reporter brought it up. Then he lies about AI. How convenient for him. AI causes lies and shows truths. It's both good and bad.

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