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Men (Original Post) dcmfox Monday OP
I hit the the jackpot with my hubby Lifeafter70 Monday #1
Mine does the laundry Mossfern Monday #7
Nice Lifeafter70 Monday #8
He won't let anyone else- including me Mossfern Monday #11
That's great we hope to retire in a couple of years Lifeafter70 Monday #17
Really... TheProle Monday #2
Maybe most men. I cook, vacuum, make the bed, do laundry, clean NewHendoLib Monday #3
My hubby and I share the work too Tree Lady Monday #18
More misandry BeerBarrelPolka Monday #4
Joke dcmfox Monday #5
Not little, none. Male basjing no better than female bashing. Even in a "joke" NoRethugFriends Monday #9
Lighten up Francis dcmfox Monday #10
.. Oeditpus Rex Tuesday #20
It's more misogynist to assume washing dishes is "for women" Maru Kitteh Monday #12
Yeah, just like Oeditpus Rex Tuesday #23
Every joke has a victim JoseBalow Tuesday #24
No, they don't Oeditpus Rex Tuesday #28
I've been reading DU for two and a half decades. BluesRunTheGame Monday #13
hmmmm Kali Monday #15
It's so oppressive iemanja Tuesday #22
We could be working on all of that... BluesRunTheGame Tuesday #25
Tell me which politician expressed misandry in any public speech? iemanja Tuesday #29
Did you even read my post? BluesRunTheGame Tuesday #30
I see. So your point wasn't that the party was misandrist iemanja Tuesday #35
"Outrage over virtually nothing" ? BluesRunTheGame Tuesday #36
This OP is about none of that iemanja Tuesday #37
I'm sorry this exchange didn't work out for you. BluesRunTheGame Tuesday #39
Thank you for deleting that. BluesRunTheGame Wednesday #42
What the fuck? Brenda Tuesday #32
I'm a white man. BluesRunTheGame Tuesday #33
And we wonder why we're lost the male vote pcdb Tuesday #34
Thank you for deleting that sentence. BluesRunTheGame Wednesday #40
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Monday #14
This message was self-deleted by its author iemanja Tuesday #21
My wife of 45 years has Parkinson's. I do all the housework amd all the cooking, driving, and shopping. Ping Tung Monday #6
NOBODY in my house wants to do those things Kali Monday #16
Which is why doG created.. Abolishinist Tuesday #19
I vacuum every Tuesday and do dishes all the time. underpants Tuesday #26
Interesting phenomenon in our home. Hope22 Tuesday #27
Trashed. maxsolomon Tuesday #31
Thank whatever entities that were responsible, but I am so glad I am gay. OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #38
Women GusBob Wednesday #41
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Wednesday #43

Lifeafter70

(636 posts)
1. I hit the the jackpot with my hubby
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 04:01 PM
Monday

He cooks, does dishes and vacuums.

On occasion he cleans the bathroom.😉

Mossfern

(4,310 posts)
7. Mine does the laundry
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 04:38 PM
Monday

I don't like the way he folds, but I know when to keep my mouth shut.

He helps with the dishes, does garbage/recycling duty, supermarket shopping (I also try to keep it to myself when he buys the wrong stuff).

He will not clean up cat vomit and only cleans the litter box if I've just had surgery or down with the flu or covid.

Lifeafter70

(636 posts)
8. Nice
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 04:47 PM
Monday

Mine does all those things too.
I just didn't want to sound like I was bragging too much. 😉
We both work but I have been spending most of my off time caring for my son while he is fighting ACC cancer.
I'm very grateful for my husband's support.

Mossfern

(4,310 posts)
11. He won't let anyone else- including me
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 06:43 PM
Monday

do the laundry. It's a trauma response I think.
He started doing it when I had a near fatal heart attack and just won't give it up.

I do paperwork, project planning and oversight, fighting with the local government, cleaning places no one ever thinks of, organizing, entertaining, fashion consultant for him - Cooking, meal planning.....gardening

We share the total load rather fairly.
I did raise our 4 kids almost on my own - no grandparent around.
He had his own retail business, so when they were growing up we rarely saw him. Worked most evenings, on Saturdays -
We didn't see him from November till mid January because of the holiday season.

Retirement is sweet.

Lifeafter70

(636 posts)
17. That's great we hope to retire in a couple of years
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 09:27 PM
Monday

It looks like you still have a lot that you are doing.

NewHendoLib

(61,308 posts)
3. Maybe most men. I cook, vacuum, make the bed, do laundry, clean
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 04:17 PM
Monday

The toilets. So does my wife of 45 years. We each do what's needed when we notice it first.

Tree Lady

(12,676 posts)
18. My hubby and I share the work too
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 09:36 PM
Monday

But he enjoys yard work and I do the bills, use to be bookkeeper.

We both cook, clean, vacuum, walk the dog, etc.

Maru Kitteh

(30,559 posts)
12. It's more misogynist to assume washing dishes is "for women"
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 07:33 PM
Monday

than it is male-bashing to assert males are resistant to doing the task, even if both are odious. So rest easy. Men still come out ahead, even in “jokes” like this.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,627 posts)
23. Yeah, just like
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 01:32 AM
Tuesday

"Women can't drive," "Wonen can't balance a checkbook," "Wonen can't go out and earn a living" and other Really Funny Stuff that was the basis of most stand-up routines and sitcoms until about halfway through the '70s.

We haven't heard them since, except from Andrew Dice Clay, wo was about as much an asshole as you'd ever find.

Throughout history, a lot of humor has been based in bigotry of some form, o imitations of bigotry, and excused with "It's just a joke," often followed with something like "Lighten up, Francis" or "You're just too sensitive."

Yeah -- I'm sensitive about gross generalizationd about any group of people for the sake of "humor." If you're a liberal/progressive, you should be, too.

BluesRunTheGame

(1,854 posts)
13. I've been reading DU for two and a half decades.
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 07:46 PM
Monday

Almost every thread with the words man, men, male, etc in the title involves man bashing. And if it doesn’t start out that way it quickly devolves into it.

The left has a misandry problem. It’s the primary reason young men don’t show up for us on Election Day.

iemanja

(56,633 posts)
22. It's so oppressive
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 01:25 AM
Tuesday


It must be terrible earning 68 cents on the dollar, having the Supreme Court take away your basic rights and criminalize your bodies. Then there is the sexual assault that the other sex engages in with a 1% conviction rate. However do you make it through the day?

BluesRunTheGame

(1,854 posts)
25. We could be working on all of that...
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 05:37 AM
Tuesday

…if we won elections.

There are potential voters who should be showing up with us, and could be our allies, but aren’t.

I’ve noticed that they are the same people that face regular hostility from a small but very active group of highly prejudiced keyboard warriors.

They are held responsible for privileges enjoyed by their grandfathers and blamed for crimes committed by people who look like them.

It’s really not surprising to me that we’ve now lost twice to the worst presidential candidate in American history. We suck at politics.

iemanja

(56,633 posts)
29. Tell me which politician expressed misandry in any public speech?
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 06:22 PM
Tuesday

And in which public appearance?

BluesRunTheGame

(1,854 posts)
30. Did you even read my post?
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 07:29 PM
Tuesday

How did we go from keyboard warriors on social media to politicians making public speeches?

iemanja

(56,633 posts)
35. I see. So your point wasn't that the party was misandrist
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 09:13 PM
Tuesday

Last edited Tue Sep 2, 2025, 11:31 PM - Edit history (1)

but that women occasionally make jokes that bruise the male ego. You apparently think the role of women is to ensure that men are never offended or made to feel sad.

Meanwhile, women are referred to as sluts, skanks, whores, bitches with great regularity, but we are told it's okay as long as the women belongs to the opposing party. The English language doesn't even have equivalent words to degrade men, but you think misandry is a great problem plaguing our party.

Trump is able to appeal to the aggrieved white male because MAGA's fundamental ideology is that everyone else is and should be treated as inferior to white men. They don't want equality. They want supremacy, and that is what you want us to indulge. They are pissed off because they have to compete for jobs on merit--that they are no longer guaranteed a high income purely through an accident of birth. Also, some young men in particular are pissed off because they think they are entitled to access to the most beautiful and desirable women in society (ordinary women are not considered acceptable), regardless of their own appeal. Is that what you want us to emulate? Should we also support rounding up brown people and firing them from jobs? Do you think they are right to strip women of equal rights? Where exactly do you draw the line? Or is the goal simply to nurture fragile egos by ensuring men are never offended?

Then there is the fact that there are a number of people who think the role of comedy or jokes is to affirm their preexisting beliefs, political views, or egos. Being humorless is an unfortunate state of being that affects the constantly aggrieved party to their own detriment. That you are so outraged by a mild joke speaks is indeed unfortunate. Women are constantly a comedic target, and if I took that personally I'd be a miserable person.

My view is that the social media problem that hurts us is the culture of constant outrage expressed by too many. Now you have chosen to express similar outrage over virtually nothing.

BluesRunTheGame

(1,854 posts)
36. "Outrage over virtually nothing" ?
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 10:33 PM
Tuesday

We’ve been losing important elections. That’s not “virtually nothing”.

We’ve lost the Supreme Court. That’s not “virtually nothing’.

We’ve lost both houses of Congress. That’s not “virtually nothing”.

In my first post I noted that for the two and a half decades that I’ve been reading DU l have learned that posts about “men” are usually negative toward men. If they don’t start off negative they’ll almost always turn negative in the response.

This is a pattern, as far as I can tell that holds true across the liberal side of the internet.

This pattern, is itself, misandrist and toxic.

There isn’t anyplace on the liberal internet where a young man searching for his political identity won’t encounter this pattern.

He will certainly come across phrases like “the sexual assault that males engage in” as if sexual assault is a common male activity. The vast majority of men are not sexual assaulters. The vast majority of men are not violent. Blaming or implicating “men” as a group, for crimes committed by a small percentage of men is also misandrist.

And more than that, it’s really, really, really stupid politics.

We need to learn to use the internet to cultivate allies, not pick stupid fights and chase people away.











iemanja

(56,633 posts)
37. This OP is about none of that
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 11:27 PM
Tuesday

It is a mild joke about which you are outraged. That is it. The rest of your argument is taking advantage of that joke to dump all over women, who you obviously think owe you a great deal. Your excuses for flipping out over a joke don’t interest me.

No men are rapists, yet at least half of all women have been sexually assaulted. Funny how that works.





BluesRunTheGame

(1,854 posts)
42. Thank you for deleting that.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 11:02 AM
Wednesday

Last edited Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:15 PM - Edit history (1)

I feel like we’re making progress!

On edit: You didn’t delete it. My mistake. We still have work to do.

Brenda

(1,770 posts)
32. What the fuck?
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:10 PM
Tuesday

Last edited Wed Sep 3, 2025, 06:44 AM - Edit history (1)

I’ve noticed that they are the same people that face regular hostility from a small but very active group of highly prejudiced keyboard warriors.

Are you talking about the rare posts here by feminists?

They are held responsible for privileges enjoyed by their grandfathers and blamed for crimes committed by people who look like them.


So we've lost twice because they were WOMEN who ran for president.

If this is what DU has become, I'm out.


BluesRunTheGame

(1,854 posts)
33. I'm a white man.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 08:20 PM
Tuesday

Are you trying to say that I’m responsible for any and all crimes committed by other white men?

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Ping Tung

(3,528 posts)
6. My wife of 45 years has Parkinson's. I do all the housework amd all the cooking, driving, and shopping.
Mon Sep 1, 2025, 04:30 PM
Monday

She does the book keeping, medicine sorting, and changes the cat-box. I consider it a good trade-off of chores.

underpants

(192,691 posts)
26. I vacuum every Tuesday and do dishes all the time.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 06:09 AM
Tuesday

The dragons just come with the territory

Hope22

(4,146 posts)
27. Interesting phenomenon in our home.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 06:59 AM
Tuesday

Since June we have been caring for our infant grandson five days a week. My husband works from home so I use the term we lightly. When my son was born we were just starting a business so my husband was gone from 6am to 7pm through the week. It was the craziest of times for both of us. Flash forward to today and he sees me doing all of the baby things including the smoothing, feeding, changing and getting through the bewitching hours before mom and dad come to pick up the little sweetheart at the end of the day. . The first month my husband apologized to me multiple times a day. He repeatedly asks me if it was this much work when our son was born. 😳 Turns out he was gone so much he didn’t have a clue. It has been a real eye opener for both of us. It’s nice to be appreciated even if it took forty years in the making. Right now we don’t sweat the small stuff! It’s all hands on deck!!😁🤣

OldBaldy1701E

(8,929 posts)
38. Thank whatever entities that were responsible, but I am so glad I am gay.
Tue Sep 2, 2025, 11:32 PM
Tuesday

Even if I am married to someone that fits that bill. Heh.

GusBob

(7,970 posts)
41. Women
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:46 AM
Wednesday

When my wife's female friends, coworkers and acquaintances find out that I shop, cook, clean, do laundry and property chores and blow dry her heavy head of hair ( once a week which takes about 3 innings of a baseball game. There are no hair salons where we live)

They are very very jealous

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