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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnyone else feel this way?
I can see pros and cons in both the "Where are the Dems" rant by Ali Velshi and the counterpoint by Ariella Elm.
I admit to feeling uncomfortable during Velshi's opening, and did notice that it was heavy on criticism and light on specifics for improvement. As he went on , I noticed that he was far more emotional than usual, and it was obvious that he was speaking from his heart and as a journalist. I did appreciate that he called out some Dems for praise. All in all, I felt it was a good introduction to the discussion that followed. I don't know how many saw that, but it was by far the most important part of the segment in my opinion. Norm Ornstein had some good ideas for strong, unified action--namely, impeaching RFK, Jr. It's easy to say that that won't work, but Norm said Dems should be guided by "What would Mich (McConnell) do?" Stop worrying about the rules, and
following protocol. Start breaking some china and getting attention.
As far as Ms. Elm's criticism goes, it doesn't bother me either. She made some really good points about what Dems are doing. She is right about that. The problem is that those actions don't always get the attention they deserve. That's why more "out of bounds" actions, such as those suggested by Ornstein on Velshi's show are necessary. They break through the noise and the narrative the media and Rs work overtime to spread. It's not that Dems are doing nothing. But they need to start thinking outside the box.
At least that's the way I see it.

Irish_Dem
(73,720 posts)Before it is too late.
senseandsensibility
(23,569 posts)Maybe I'm naive.
Irish_Dem
(73,720 posts)But I suspect we are being somewhat naive.
Silent Type
(10,798 posts)Same with yelling, ranting, etc., about trump.
We need to offer some answers, like our own Project 2026/2028, to swing a few voters our ways.
flamingdem
(40,648 posts)It's basically a platform and takes time but we don't have much time!
senseandsensibility
(23,569 posts)Let's face it, voters won't pay attention to thousands of words of print anyway. Make it simple: workers' rights, healthcare rights, economy, environment, education. Come up with a clever/memorable name. A good PR team could do this in a day or two.
Silent Type
(10,798 posts)And I dont think we are. Its easier for our leaders to hold internal meeting, write letters, show up at rallies that only attract Dems, make appearances bashing trump without heres what we can do for you, etc.
Hopefully, well hit our stride soon.
Cirsium
(2,838 posts)How can that be? Aren't we suppose to be in disarray?
Thanks for your level headed assessment of this latest manufactured controversy.
senseandsensibility
(23,569 posts)Don't know if conceding that both sides have valid points is allowed, but I plead guilty to that.
Skittles
(166,987 posts)that's where the quandary comes from
senseandsensibility
(23,569 posts)Pritzker's are yielding results, although maybe not "serious" ones. Still, the more imaginative and unconventional the better our chances. In the congress, I'd like to see more efforts at things that might not work, but would give us an opportunity to at least put the Rs on the defensive.