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In It to Win It

(11,232 posts)
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 08:15 PM 22 hrs ago

Democrats struggle against Trump-waged redistricting battle

https://www.semafor.com/article/07/30/2025/democrats-struggle-to-choose-their-weapons-in-a-trump-waged-redistricting-battle

Democrats are struggling to respond to a White House-backed push to redraw Texas’ congressional maps with five new safe GOP seats, which could short-circuit their entire midterm campaign effort.

A huge part of the problem: The party has split into two factions. One is ready to ditch the long-running practice of nonpartisan redistricting wherever possible, recognizing that the new Texas map would put the recapture of the House all but out of reach.

The other group of Democrats is dreading a map-making arms race that the party would be waging on uneven turf, all while exposing its members to charges of hypocrisy after their years-long push for fair congressional districts.

“What they’re doing is wrong,” Sen. John Hickenlooper, D-Colo., told Semafor when asked about Texas Republicans. “It’s this win-at-any-cost devolution of our political system. But I don’t think the response is to undo the good work that’s been done.”

Over in Maryland, Sen. Chris Van Hollen aligned with the fight-back camp. The Democrat told Semafor that his state “should maximize its ability to respond to what Republicans are clearly trying to do in places like Texas,” which would include trying to eliminate the safe seat drawn for GOP Rep. Andy Harris.

Worst of all for Democrats, it’s not as simple as rewriting their own blue-state maps. A nationwide, mid-cycle redistricting battle would likely favor Republicans, given the comparative lack of impediments that exist in red states.

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@daveweigel.bsky.social and I explore the Democrats' divisions on how to fight back on Texas redistricting

Fight camp: Sen. Van Hollen said MD “should maximize its ability to respond to what Republicans are clearly trying to do." Andy Harris would be the target

www.semafor.com/article/07/3...

Burgess Everett (@burgessev.bsky.social) 2025-07-30T17:41:30.109Z
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Democrats struggle against Trump-waged redistricting battle (Original Post) In It to Win It 22 hrs ago OP
Assuming this is true, "a nationwide redistricting battle would favor republicans", what would stop the lostincalifornia 22 hrs ago #1
They appear to be "doing it anyway" FBaggins 21 hrs ago #3
Here we go again, using our "honorable" ways against us. BlueTsunami2018 21 hrs ago #2
Don't bring a powder puff to a gun fight. gab13by13 21 hrs ago #4

lostincalifornia

(4,012 posts)
1. Assuming this is true, "a nationwide redistricting battle would favor republicans", what would stop the
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 08:41 PM
22 hrs ago

republicans from doing it anyway in those red states?

Seriously, if they are already going to do it in Texas, then the "battle" has already started, and nothing is going to stop them from doing it in other red states, whether the Democrats do something or not in the blue states.

Haven't we learned anything?

I thought redistricting was supposed to happen after the census, and if republicans are saying to hell with that, then Democrats have no choice, they have to.

If they do Texas, then we do California. For every state they do, the Democrats need to meet it.

It is either that or we take it to the Supreme Court, trying to "game" the system, and with this Supreme Court, I wouldn't count on fairness.

Everyday it is something new, and some folks get pissed off when people express frustration and anger with what happened in 2016 and 2024, when too many people refused to vote for the Democratic nominee, and not surprisingly those that were in that category of not voting or voting third party, seem to be quite upset with a situation that they helped bring about.

I am sorry, but who in the hell didn't know what the stakes were in 2016 and 2024?

Hint: THE SUPREME COURT WAS AT STAKE!!!





FBaggins

(28,281 posts)
3. They appear to be "doing it anyway"
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 09:32 PM
21 hrs ago

Texas is a huge hit if it makes it through... but Ohio is actually required to redistrict and they can probably pick up two seats (1&9) and firm up the 7th.

And now Desantis is making noise about taking another shot

If they really want to go all-out... there has been some talk of "correcting" the census (which would move multiple seats from blue states to red ones)

BlueTsunami2018

(4,514 posts)
2. Here we go again, using our "honorable" ways against us.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 09:00 PM
21 hrs ago

When are we ever going to get it? This is a life and death battle, there’s no room for honor. This is win or die.

The fascists don’t give a single fuck about “hypocrisy” or “fairness”. Why should we?

This is stupid. Either fight them this way or eventually we’re going to have to fight them in the streets.

Hell, we already should be fighting them in the streets.

There’s only one way to deal with fascists. When are we going to face this fact?

gab13by13

(29,067 posts)
4. Don't bring a powder puff to a gun fight.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 09:38 PM
21 hrs ago

Every Democratic governor should be making plans to redistrict, Marc Elias said that.

I understand that California has an independent agency do its redistricting. CHANGE IT.

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