stances on the issues are logical and solid.

Mamdani is now the Democratic NYC mayoral candidate for the general.

As the saying goes, vote blue no matter who.

and donated to Democratic campaigns for decades....How'd that work out for us?

Mamdani said "Defund the police" on multiple occasions, and now he supposedly changed his mind...Like a literal Damascus road change of mind....Trump voted for and supported Democrats for decades and now look at him.

Pay attention to what they did, not what they say later to obfuscate the truth...Trump gave many hints as to his authoritarian nature, but nobody listened.

And you went ahead anyway.

It would have worked wonderfully if more people followed that in 2016 and again in 2024.

But, no, her emails; and, no, Biden’s support of Israel while Gaza was being bombed out of existence. So, in part due to those not heeding those words, and despite Biden not even running, we have a tsunami of destructive fascists in office for who knows how long.

Do these same anti-Blue voters in 2024 cast equal or greater blame on Trump? Betcha they’re not as active as their activism last year.

(TnDem, this is not aimed at you, but at all the “Democrats” who pulled the red lever or stayed home.)

That would go down 10 rabbit trails and pull the thread in various directions... I can just give you my anecdotal perspective as a rural Democrat.

Simply put, people vote for candidates who they like and trust to do what they want accomplished. For whatever reason, more people liked and trusted trump than they did Kamala...Obviously, I disagree with their reasoning, but Kamala didn't appeal to the black voters because she was part and parcel to incarcerating them while in CA...They didn't trust her because of her past actions.

Getting back to the point of the thread, you can't adamantly say "Defund the Police" multiple times on a digital format and then claim later the exact opposite stance with no explanation....Voters don't trust that.

Also, why run from the statement if you believe it?...That reeks of wet finger-in-the-air politics... Just say it and stand by it.

The Black men in my family of age to vote (27 to 88) liked her because of her background. She went to Howard. She was in my Cousin Michelle's class.She was flawless.

That said - if Doug was not Jewish . . . .Well we know anti semitism is not a left/right issue - it cuts across all demographics and all over the world.

Mamdani is THE Democratic candidate.

He still posts there, it's not like he lost his password.

All this 'concern' all over this thread is duly noted.

If he really changed his stance, why not delete it? I would delete something that I changed my opinion on, otherwise people will still think those are still my views.

I think deleting it can give the impression that you're trying to hide something. Best to own up to it and say that your views have changed on the subject. I think that shows intellectual growth and is not a negative. The person could also retweet it and say their views have changed.

Saved me from posting it.

I have never figured out why people do shit like this and are then surprised when someone digs it out and shoves it in their face.

If you don't mean something, don't say it.

voted for it and campaigned on it.

about defunding the police as recently as December.

on his Bluesky account on December 19.

Who? The Republican, the sexual predator, of the criminal?

That and the middle finger to the statue of Columbus.

wants to do can easily read his 2025 detailed plan which is nothing like defund the police. It's a much better way of understanding what his policy is --- even better than a tweet! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1a7ejjSZWWIAcxfcWnkYaqvnjihTb0LAOQkj8g10-npg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0#heading=h.2gazcsgmxkub]

I'm amazed how frightened people are of this amazing candidate for Mayor that they dig up old five year old tweets as if that's a "policy" rather than -- I don't know -- read the policy from 2025 that he is running on.

It's called pandering.

What are your thoughts about that?

It's kind of a simple concept in life really....Say what you mean and stick with it.

When I have to have a paragraphs long "policy proposal" to counteract truthful mouth diarrhea that I myself made , then maybe I should stick with the statement I originally made and believe in?

If it's Mamdani, the Democratic candidate, then why are you slagging him off up and down this thread? It is very sus.

Someone like that could never win a national election.

My point is that the negative stances you are trying to flame up Mamdani with are definitely not the actions, IMHO, of a person who supports the Democratic candidate in the general.

Because you live in this bubble...Every Democrat in this country isn't exactly like you...A rural Democrat like myself, has a broader view of the party in general and how to win national elections, and Mamdani ain't it beyond the boroughs of NYC.

I don't know your age, but i could almost guarantee you that I and my friends and neighbors have been voting Democratic as long or longer than you have,

that 'every Democrat is like me'. You are pushing an entirely false framing with that one.

You also keep trying to push this trope of Mamdani as a national candidate and falsely attribute it to being a belief I am advocating for. I never said that, I do not think he can win nationally.

What I do advocate for is supporting the Democratic candidate (Mamdani) in the general election for NEW YORK CITY mayor.

Your multiple postings here taking swipes at him are not something, IMHO, that a supporter of the Democratic primary winner and now the Democratic candidate in the general (Mamdani) would do. You are attempting to introduce FUD, which is absolutely NOT advantageous to us (the Democratic Party) winning the upcoming general election. Like I already said before, it is sus.

Furthermore, you even admitted that you did not read his actual policy proposals, yet you still have a go over it using a problematic framing of his stances, one that contains little to no knowledge (again, you self-admitted that) of his actual platform and proposals.

Finally, I truly take issue with this:

Does that mean "suspect"?... Suspect of what? Because we don't agree on his national viability because of obvious flip-flops on Mamdani's part?

I worked on a Democratic State Senator's campaign 35 years ago, so I have been around a minute. I also grew up as a kid in Suburban DC/ PG County, so I am not from the hills either. I just know how certain portions of the party think that everybody locksteps with them and they don't.

Go back and read the thread too...I am not the only person bringing up his flip-flops on defunding the police. There were other posters saying the same thing multiple times...Are they "sus" too?

Glad to see that you agree that he can't win a national election. I also don't think he will have any problem winning NYC mayor's position either...Two different worlds.

I think the first term is used in the expression "what the FUD", sometimes abbreviated "WTF" and followed by a question mark.

FUD, that is.

He probably still supports reallocating funds part but mainly reorganizing in away from mental health calls or failures of the capitalist system such as homeless and using the police to deal with the issue. He wants police to focus on serious crimes rather than like a "broken windows" kind of policing which I also support. He wants to increase funding to deal with hate crimes by 800% IIRC.

Those against it have to own the current problems such as the discrimination, unconstitutional policing, and doing things like police killing someone on a welfare check. I think there are better ways to deal with problems instead of sending the cops at every problem.

Should've just said he was a Democrat...oops, wait, there is a thing as oppo reseach so he's stuck with his past statments. Politics can be tricky.

There is no debate. On DU, we support the Democratic candidate.

Then the fact the only alternatives are a criminal, a Republican, or a sexual predator.

The Democratic Party as a whole has a very wide range of political philosophies and stances within its big tent. We have conservatives, centrists/moderates, 'leftish' neoliberals (ie Clintonian/Blairite/3rd Wayers), progressives, social democrats, etc etc, all the way to democratic socialists and even a tiny sliver of marxists and other types of communists (who still vote Dem and not some micro niche party).

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threat of the USSR/Stalin, big Russian bear nukes, Russian Premier Khrushchev threatening to bury us, the Cuban missile crisis, the Joe McCarthy red scare/HUAC hearings and many prominent people having their careers ruined and others despised for 'naming names' an on and on.

Which is why the tinge of being associated with socialism and communism/reds is still shied away from by many...just call yourself a Democrat already and avoid all the controversy.

Even if Mamdani wins, having the mayor of the most important US city being a socialist is going to be a negative cudgel rethugs will constantly hold against Dems as they use it as a talking point on FOX and other winger media and in the midterm campaign.

And oppo research has recently revealed he once got caught up in one of the stupidest political slogans of all time...defund the police. Naivete.

He ran for the Democratic party nomination

Mamdani: I would say that for the former governor to have spent an entire day speaking almost exclusively about me and barely about the New Yorkers who have been killed is indicative of the very politics New Yorkers want to leave in the past.

— Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social) 2025-07-30T18:47:17.246Z

I hope he pisses away a ton of money financing an absolute clown car of candidates trying to stop Mamdani. Zohran will skillfully wipe the floor with all of them. The people have his back. He beat out all NYC mayoral candidates combined. It’s almost like most New Yorkers are Democrats who will support the candidate that Democratic Party voters selected to run for mayor. Funny how that works.

Well yeah, after they eliminated all but one of the other candidates and reallocated their votes; and that's fine, as that's how NYC does their primaries.

But in the first round, he got 43.82% of the vote, which means that everyone else combined got 56.18% of the vote.

take it up with the NY city government. Otherwise, quit the FUD.
On DU, we support the Democratic candidate. Period. We don't support the criminal, the Republican, or the sexual predator.

I was just pointing out that the statement "he got more votes than all other combined" is only half-right.

BTW, I support the Democrat in the race too, that doesn't mean that I have to agree with everything he wants to do. And since I don't live there, it doesn't really matter what I think anyway.

His total was so strong that they knew he was the winner on the first round. Your claim that he didn't receive a majority of votes in a multi-way primary is ridiculous. No one would. In races with only two-candidates, it's not uncommon for a candidate to receive less than 50% of the vote. It's remarkable for someone to get 44% in an eleven-way race.

If your post was not a criticism of ranked-choice voting, it displayed an unawareness of how it functions as a democratic system.

Whether you agree with him is irrelevant. The time for criticism has passed. He is the nominee.

…because you either didn’t understand or didn’t like what I said, have at it, but I stand by it.

…I don’t think there is any question about that. The question is how many of the super rich and big businesses will leave NYC for what they view as friendlier places.

...from 7.25% to 11.5 %.

Should be interesting to see if he can get the city council to pass any/all of his proposals.

to arrest all the Republican "MAGA" criminals....


MAGA Republicans and Trump officials have been "moving the window"---
without thinking about the possible consequences----

And as opposed to 'free speech criminals',
many of them are guilty of ACTUAL CRIMES....