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LetMyPeopleVote

(166,992 posts)
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:11 PM Wednesday

DOJ says Epstein, Maxwell grand jury transcripts only consist of law enforcement testimony

The trump DOJ is seeking the release of these grand jury transcripts because there is nothing there that will implicate trump. There are no witness statements or other material that is relevant to what people want to know

DOJ says Epstein, Maxwell grand jury transcripts only consist of law enforcement testimony

Mybuddysully (@mybuddysully.bsky.social) 2025-07-30T13:56:51.310Z

https://abcnews.go.com/US/doj-epstein-maxwell-grand-jury-transcripts-consist-law/story?id=124198327

The Department of Justice revealed overnight that there were only ever two witnesses who testified during the grand jury proceedings before the two grand juries investigating Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell in New York, and said that much of the grand jury testimony was consistent with accounts made public at trial.

DOJ faced a deadline by a judge in the Southern District of New York to submit a memorandum in support of unsealing the Epstein- and Maxwell-related grand jury materials to the court.

"Here, there was one witness—an FBI agent—during the Epstein grand jury proceedings," the filing says. "There were two witnesses—the same FBI agent from the Epstein grand jury proceedings and a detective with the NYPD who was a Task Force Officer with the FBI’s Child Exploitation and Human Trafficking Task Force—during the Maxwell grand jury proceedings."
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DOJ says Epstein, Maxwell grand jury transcripts only consist of law enforcement testimony (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday OP
There were no witnesses called when Maxwell was tried and convicted? MichMan Wednesday #1
The transcripts H2O Man Wednesday #5
Pretty sure grand jury rules allow for hearsay evidence so it's not surprising to see mostly law enforcement. CincyDem Wednesday #2
Epstein Grand Jury Transcripts Don't Include Any Interviews With Victims, DOJ Says LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #3
No one H2O Man Wednesday #4

H2O Man

(77,550 posts)
5. The transcripts
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:34 PM
Wednesday

are not the Epstein files people are demanding. They know the judge will not release them. The grand jury bit is a distraction.

We want the evidence from the investigations, depositions, and civil trials.

CincyDem

(7,164 posts)
2. Pretty sure grand jury rules allow for hearsay evidence so it's not surprising to see mostly law enforcement.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:25 PM
Wednesday

For the sake of brevity, focus and predictability...most grand jury witnesses are law enforcement. A policeman can testify to a grand jury about things he was told by other witnesses where in a trial, those original witness would be obligated to testify.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, prosecutors are not required to present the jury with exculpatory evidence unless there's a specific question about a specific point from a member of the grand jury.

Since grand jury testimony is confidential, there's no real stats on it but I think most prosecutors would agree that "retail" witness are always riskier than the pros.

This is way it's said "even a mediocre prosecutor should be able to get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich". It's a deck well stacked in the prosecution's favor.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,992 posts)
3. Epstein Grand Jury Transcripts Don't Include Any Interviews With Victims, DOJ Says
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:28 PM
Wednesday

Grand jury documents in Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell’s cases only include interviews with law enforcement and do not include any testimony from Epstein’s victims directly, the Justice Department confirmed in a filing late Tuesday, further suggesting the grand jury materials may not include any explosive details the public wants as the Trump administration pushes to release them instead of the FBI’s full Epstein files.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/crime/general/epstein-grand-jury-transcripts-don-t-include-any-interviews-with-victims-doj-says/ar-AA1JAtsT
The Trump administration is asking multiple courts to unseal grand jury documents in the prosecutions against Epstein and Maxwell, which would detail what the grand juries were told in order to decide the defendants should be indicted.

The DOJ submitted a court filing late Tuesday further laying out its case for why the grand jury materials should be released, as federal law only allows those documents to be unsealed under very limited circumstances.

As part of their filing, prosecutors noted the only witness to testify to the grand jury in Epstein’s case was an FBI agent, while Maxwell’s grand jury included testimony from the same FBI agent and a NYPD detective who had been a Task Force Officer with the FBI’s Child Exploitation and Human Trafficking Task Force.

That means jurors did not hear from any of Epstein’s victims themselves during the grand jury proceedings, and any grand jury transcripts would likely only include law enforcement testifying about evidence in the case, rather than that evidence directly.

H2O Man

(77,550 posts)
4. No one
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 02:31 PM
Wednesday

but them cares about the grand jury transcripts. That is not "the Epstein files." It's a mere distraction, that no one should pay attention to.

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