What the hell does he know about broken necks? Strangling somebody is a method of suicide. Everybody I love knows that. Why are you still talking about this?

your response.

I know they released a summary of the autopsy but don't believe they released the entire autopsy.

Did they check for strange DNA on Epstein's neck and bed sheet?

Let’s keep up the good fight however we can.

Isn't that how we got into this mess?
Nobody ever asked "who are this 'lotta people?'"
And nobody EVER asked: "What will America look like when it's 'Great Again?'"

at the behest of FoxNews

But, hey! All in here!

Are you saying that Fox brought the guy in to say that Epstein may have been murdered? Trump was president and Billy Barr was AG.

You confused me. Are you one of the people who believe that Epstein committed suicide? I have this bridge....

But apparently the person who did the autopsy and the Biden era DOJ are just rubes.

Baden himself admits that the breakage is only more common in homicide strangulation not dispositive of suicide strangulation. People don't understand odds very well.

https://oig.justice.gov/news/doj-oig-releases-report-bops-custody-care-and-supervision-jeffrey-epstein-metropolitan

From the link:

No Evidence Contradicting the FBI’s Determination that there Was No Criminality Associated with Epstein’s Death.

Separate from the OIG’s investigation, which focused on the conduct of BOP personnel, the FBI concurrently investigated whether Epstein’s death was the result of criminal conduct by any non-BOP actors. Among other things, the FBI investigated the cause of Epstein’s death and determined it was not the result of a criminal act. The Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, City of New York, determined that Epstein died by suicide. While the OIG determined MCC New York staff engaged in significant misconduct and dereliction of their duties, we did not uncover evidence contradicting the FBI’s determination regarding the absence of criminality in connection with Epstein’s death.

Complacent? Yes. A lot of stuff should have been released and dealt with, including this report from 2023, the trump era.

And are you suggesting that the people who actually wrote the report were under orders or just complacent?

That's one of the many problems with these conspiracy theories. They require either a lot of complicit people who then never say anything or unitary actors.

He didn’t drop from the ceiling. He basically tied a homemade rope around his neck and then crouched until he lost consciousness with his body weight.

I am not convinced that he wasn't suicided.

Similar to Robin Williams. There is nothing in a cell to hang from the ceiling. Just rope around neck short enough that you sit and body weight causes strangulation.

AG Barr visited, shortly thereafter Epstein was dead and guards were 'alledgedly and mysterious' absent. Yeah, right.

Sometimes Occam's Razor is what it is.

before actually dying?

A boy had killed himself on a double bunk bed. We found him basically strangled but on his knees.
Putting a short rope around your neck and sitting down with it on a low bar on a bunk bed. You lose consciousness and pass out and hang. .
Robin Williams was a belt on a door knob. That’s waist level.

Many suicidal hangings are only partial suspension. But the broken bones raise the possibility he was rendered unconscious by strangulation and then arranged in a manner to let gravity finish the job.

wile his hands were handcuffed behind his back. He shot himself.

“A preeminent but controversial medical examiner, Baden testified that he had billed about $100,000 so far in the Simpson case, but defense lawyer Robert L. Shapiro sought to blunt any challenge to Baden’s credibility by eliciting his detailed testimony about work he has done for prosecutors, including the Los Angeles County district attorney’s office“

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-08-11-me-33974-story.html

Barr of the cell and slumps to choke off the airway from body weight I'm not so sure that bones would break. I would think that would happen more likely from a considerable weight jerking on the neck like jumping off a chair at least.

The bones break because these people aren’t executioners. They tie a basic knot and hand their body weight from it when they pass out. The knot slips and is incredibly tight. It can get so tight from body weight that it splits the skin. Same force or worse than strangulation.

of how he supposedly hung himself? Your response leads me to believe you didn't.

He basically twisted paper tight for a noose. You are not given fabric clothes usually on suicide watch. He didn’t hang by the neck with his feet dangling. Hanging when the noose draws tight like that is strangulation. It doesn’t break the neck. The rope just tightened around your neck and you pass out, body weight strangles you. His but was a barely off the ground is what I had heard. If you weigh 180 pounds, the rope will get very tight around the throat. I’m not necessary disputing what the autopsy expert said…but he’s paid. Paid people tend to match the opinions of those that pay.

was a way for him to jump with some weight snapping against his neck I doubt whether the bones in his neck would break. Honestly this is like me saying it's night time and you saying to me "No it's not it's just that the sun went down and it's dark."

Is the mechanism here. This isn’t breaking the neck. It’s small bones. The hyoid and cartridge. Strangling someone with your hands commonly breaks them. A ligature will break them.

Someone in a jail cell without access to long rope. Without access to a high point. In a cell designed to stop suicides through hanging do not hang from a rope. They die from asphyxiation, just like a ligature strangulation. It’s classified as hanging because body weight is constricting the rope, but the mechanism is strangulation. They put their body weight against a rope until they pass out, then their full body weight is on their neck except for their legs.

what they found with how they say Epstein did it. Period. I believe how those bones came to be broken was from other circumstances. Someone can die of self imposed asphyxiation without breaking bones. I have never believed that the official story is on the up and up. But then again there are people who still swear the Warren Report is gospel.