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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI simply can't understand the obsession with immigrants.
It's like this one issue is behind everything the Orange Rapist and his loyal asskissers do. WTAF! Could someone please explain why they're so focused on this one thing?

dem4decades
(13,187 posts)SWBTATTReg
(25,717 posts)didn't want it to pass or go forward, to finally once and for all, deal w/ the immigration issues. They want it to continue so they can harp on it all of the time, a manufactured issue in effect.
Scumbags.
brush
(61,033 posts)LR3
(56 posts)Nazis ---> gays, gypsies, and Jews
MAGATs ---> trans, immigrants, and Jews
IzzaNuDay
(1,149 posts)If they arent arriving from Eurocentric countries - for example the South African whites, then they are a problem to MAGA sycophants.
Bernardo de La Paz
(58,968 posts)1) make people afraid of something, anything.
2) offer yourself up as the only solution to their fear.
3) require emergency powers because it's an emergency
4) use the emergency powers to maintain control and enrich yourself and your friends
5) use the $ to stay in power as long as you can
It didn't have to be immigrants, any minority will do.
leftstreet
(37,397 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)unblock
(55,655 posts)Though they tolerate subservient women and obedient children.
*anyone* not under that heading is at risk, sooner or later.
Immigrants are the current easy target because there are already laws they can overaggressively enforce (and sweep up some non-immigrant people they want to get rid of as well by casting an overly broad net and through denial of due process) and the rhetoric of immigrants "invading" the country works on these idiots.
Uncle Joe
(63,250 posts)It's classic look there while we pick your pocket for the oligarchs; whom also happen to own most of the corporate media.
So the messenger and message are easily aligned.
Thanks for the thread bif.
Kid Berwyn
(22,027 posts)Project 2025 channeling Hitler for the present day.
awesomerwb1
(4,852 posts)I have money problems, blame someone else. Blame immigrants
I have a crappy job, blame someone else. Blame immigrants.
I can't afford a house, blame someone. Blame immigrants.
Etc
Etc
Etc
Oneironaut
(6,128 posts)Im not poor bc of the billionaire parasite class. Im poor because of immigrants!
I didnt lose my job because of shitty anti-worker concepts like Six Sigma Lean that dictate hiring as few people as possible and overloading them with work. Its because immigrants are stealing our jobs!
All crime is because of immigrants, not because of our failure to invest in infrastructure or right past wrongs.
If I get stuck in traffic every day, its because immigrants are clogging traffic up by commuting to work too! Its absolutely not because American society has virtually no public transportation and allows people to develop in suburbs rather than investing in cities.
If were destroying beautiful forests and land, its not because of greedy, predatory land developers. Its because immigrants need houses!
Its all so convenient. They are robbing us blind while we point fingers and punch down.
KentuckyWoman
(7,294 posts)"THEM others" are to blame for having to press 1 for English.
H2O Man
(77,992 posts)Rubin told me that every tyrant knows that if you get people to hate some smaller group of people, they will forget their own low level of being.
Karadeniz
(24,644 posts)his using immigration/deportation to threaten.
OrlandoDem2
(3,110 posts)Its not right but its nothing new.
senseandsensibility
(24,015 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 28, 2025, 08:29 PM - Edit history (1)
who grew up in a state that has been majority Hispanic for decades now. We co-exist peacefully here and in fact, depend on the immigrant population for important work such as construction and farming. However, the huge numbers of Hispanic people are not just immigrants. The majority are citizens and just as "American" as anyone else.
ibegurpard
(17,066 posts)It's also behind the rise of fascism in Europe and Brexit
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Botany
(75,398 posts)
the countrys problems. Round them up and deport them. Trump is waist deep in hypocrisy
with his obsession with immigrants because his own grandfather Trump was an immigrant after the
State of Bavaria expelled him for not fighting in WW I, his own mother was an immigrant from
Scotland, his 1st and 3rd wives were immigrants from Eastern Europe, he used undocumented
Polish labor on his Trump Tower in Manhattan, and Costa Ricans built his Bedminster Golf
course and clubhouse in New Jersey. Selling racism, social divisions, and fear of the others
is @ his core and those prejudices are reinforced daily by Stephen Miller.
Trump wants to be a dictator and selling fear is part of the plan.
Skittles
(167,767 posts)
Johonny
(24,792 posts)If he thought he could get away with it. So, you know, by next year.
Ping Tung
(3,757 posts)The immigrants are used as bogeymen threatening the mythical "American Way" and stealing jobs from "REAL Americans". They are the new "Welfare Queens" that Reagan used to scare the suckers into voting for hi m. Trump displayed the truth to see when he became generous and welcoming in allowing White (only) South African immigrants to come here.
America has always had a Dark Side of ignorance, fear, and hatred. This is just another version of it.
MichMan
(16,013 posts)Mysterian
(5,953 posts)MAGA blames immigrants for all the problems in the world.
Fascists need "others" for their gullible followers to hate and to blame for all the problems.
Renew Deal
(84,513 posts)They need something to divide people with. Picking on immigrants is the convenient way to do it. They cant do much to fight back.
TnDem
(1,390 posts)If our party hadn't made them political pawns for years, it wouldn't be as bad. Let's face it, our party has attempted to court the hispanic vote and still does, which is fine and they should... So much so, that the party leaders have zero clue about the mindset of hispanics. All hispanics do not vote as a bloc like Carvill might like to think. Most hispanics are fairly conservative and many are catholic...They can't be grouped into a voting bloc by their skin color or what WE view as their culture. This is because hispanics consists of dozens of cultures. The DC view is they all are the same...They are not.
This top down "Latinx" strategy is bullshit.. It just gets eye rolls from many hispanics because they feel that they are being talked down to, because they are..
usonian
(20,987 posts)Did you know that in the previous century, Italians were not considered "White?"
https://archive.is/TyY6O
moondust
(21,062 posts)He and MAGA think he looks strong when he is dominating and oppressing a group of scapegoats. Much like Hitler scapegoating and oppressing Jews and other groups.
appmanga
(1,278 posts)I continue to waver between astounded and utter disbelief at how easily people dismiss the Occam's Razor conclusion about this administration and Trump's supporters.
J_William_Ryan
(3,035 posts)Hostility and unwarranted fear concerning immigrants is a core theme of the fascist right, consistent with white grievance politics and racist replacement theory.
edhopper
(36,665 posts)with Jews"
Does that make it clear?
bif
(26,258 posts)And sending them to third world countries.
about what I wrote and who might've said it.
in what European country would people say that?
You ask why the obsession with immigrants, they might have asked why the obsession with Jews.
The reasons are the same.
rampartd
(2,490 posts)where they will convert or die. it is prophesied, according to these believers, somewhere in the bible.
BannonsLiver
(19,685 posts)1. Racism
2. An easy scapegoat for white people problems.
Not hard to understand at all.
Jspur
(749 posts)a minority. This is why they are obsessed with immigration because they have this irrational fear that once whites become a minority in this country that they will be persecuted by other minority groups.
cbabe
(5,653 posts)ITAL
(1,203 posts)Even back before the founding Benjamin Franklin complained about Germans coming here and not adapting to the British/American way of life.
The same charge was later thrown at Italians and Irish...and Czechs, and Poles, and Swedes, and Chinese, and Japanese, etc, etc.
Basically every group that has ever come here in large numbers has gotten the treatment. Some have been quickly "adopted" by the American culture and other groups took longer.
dlilafae
(326 posts)money. Every U.S dollar that they can get their hands on, they're claiming for their own (under the guise of business).
mercuryblues
(15,886 posts)the master race
bigtree
(92,771 posts)...but for the republicans, themselves, they're looking at the way our census allows states to get representation in Congress based on population.
Funny, though, how they were actually bussing them into these Democratic areas.
LeftInTX
(34,006 posts)It's one thing to try to reduce immigration (our country has limited resources and although immigrants perform jobs that others won't, we had Venezuelans sleeping in peoples' front yards. They were not allowed to work and required govt assistance. I'm sure that was not welcome by voters) and deport criminals, but this is so bizarre.
pansypoo53219
(22,615 posts)is his whole platform to make America white again. These are fucked up white men, they are damaged. Look at Stephen Miler. He has mental issues too. They need scapegoats, LGBTQ, Women, Black and Brown people
It's really not difficult to understand at all.
Ms. Toad
(37,740 posts)And those are the ones they have promised are overrunning our country - so we have to deport millions.
And, since there aren't enough brown violent criminals, they have to grab anyone and everyone from the easiest places imaginable to meet their quotoas. Those who aren't brown are at least "damn furiners," and are acceptable collateral damage, in their eyes.
LS0999
(254 posts)That's why his base will continue to support him regardless. As long as Trump continues to push this white nationalist agenda his base will support him even if it means starving to death in the streets.
peggysue2
(12,190 posts)The Great Replacement Theory/Conspiracy. Tucker Carlson has been pushing this for years and hardcore MAGA supporters bought into the idea.
Birthrates of white citizens are down; birthrates of brown/black citizens are up. Demographics. Consequently, the immigrant population of brown and black-skinned people will overwhelm the entitled white Christian population who ultimately will lose their entitled status. Even more nefarious (according to proponents) is the Democratic Party supporting and encouraging the illegal immigration surge in order to win elections in perpetuity.
IMHO, all of this is merely an excuse, a lame rationale for raw racism and violence against the other.
We're a country of immigrants. None of this makes sense.
JustAnotherGen
(37,121 posts)My husband has been misidentified as Andrew Lincoln from the Walking Dead but since he's a Calabrese Cowboy -
I like to remind him that without Sam Elliott imprinting on my psyche - he wouldn't have gotten a first date.
For me - it's because my immigrant is a hottie.
ILikePie92
(223 posts)Look different, speak a different language, eat different foods, and have different beliefs. They are today's version of Jews, gypsies, slaves, etc... for today's fascist regime. In order for them to take over, they need an outside group of people for "insiders" to be afraid of/hate. There weren't enough Muslims here back in Dubya's terms for this to work but there sure are a hell of a lot of ethnic Hispanics here this time for it to work.
Initech
(106,427 posts)