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sheshe2

(93,964 posts)
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 02:37 PM Jul 28

Ghislaine Maxwell urges Supreme Court to overturn her conviction

So this is how they are going to do it.

(CNN) — Ghislaine Maxwell, the former girlfriend of Jeffrey Epstein, urged the Supreme Court on Monday to take up her pending appeal and overturn her sex-trafficking conviction, claiming she was covered by an agreement Epstein made with federal authorities that shielded her from prosecution.

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President Trump built his legacy in part on the power of a deal – and surely he would agree that when the United States gives its word, it must stand by it,” Maxwell’s attorney, David Oscar Markus, said in a statement. “We are appealing not only to the Supreme Court but to the president himself to recognize how profoundly unjust it is to scapegoat Ghislaine Maxwell for Epstein’s crimes, especially when the government promised she would not be prosecuted.”


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https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/28/politics/ghislaine-maxwell-supreme-court

Bullshit!
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Ghislaine Maxwell urges Supreme Court to overturn her conviction (Original Post) sheshe2 Jul 28 OP
This will be interesting. Biophilic Jul 28 #1
So in otherwords Trump can't risk giving her a doc03 Jul 28 #2
It is a clever way to mitigate any political risk fujiyamasan Jul 28 #16
Yeah, what about that? bucolic_frolic Jul 28 #3
Why can't we hear from the victims instead of Maxwell? Just_Vote_Dem Jul 28 #4
So ass kissing in articles is required now? Puke. Initech Jul 28 #5
I know that all have a right to plea their court cases to every venue that's possible, but in some cases, such as SWBTATTReg Jul 28 #6
Add brakester Jul 28 #38
So this was her deal. ananda Jul 28 #7
Just how much is Roberts and company willing to debase themselves. ?? lostnfound Jul 28 #12
Please, let's not challenge them! WestMichRad Jul 28 #14
What aren't they willing to debase themselves over? ananda Jul 28 #17
the SC does what their billionaire minders or Trump tell them to do. Irish_Dem Jul 28 #35
That agreement was immoral at the time. Will SCOTUS perpetuate evil? Karadeniz Jul 28 #8
Absolutely! Mossfern Jul 28 #9
Sad but true. sheshe2 Jul 28 #11
as Trump whores? Skittles Jul 28 #27
The Corrupt Court has already handed dictator power to Orangina mn9driver Jul 28 #10
This just broke. sheshe2 Jul 28 #30
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 28 #13
In addition, the Second Circuit rejected her request for rehearing en banc in November. onenote Jul 28 #32
Everyone can be sure Mr. Evil Jul 28 #15
Is Thomas on The List? Orrex Jul 28 #18
You never know... sheshe2 Jul 28 #23
I assume she has the goods on many of the RW justices. Not sure about the handmaiden. erronis Jul 28 #19
Of course judges are on the list. They will protect themselves. Irish_Dem Jul 28 #36
Sickening. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 28 #20
It's her crimes. She was an active participant in the crimes IronLionZion Jul 28 #21
Yep. See post 28. onenote Jul 28 #29
I've heard everything now. Release the tapes, Elon. Joinfortmill Jul 28 #22
I will 100% shocked if nTHIS court does NOT agree with her. bluestarone Jul 28 #24
"Hey SCOTUS, overturn my prosecution, because Eliot Ness is a big-fat, doo-doo head!"--Al Capone 1930s RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jul 28 #25
John Roberts will probably call Trump to see what he should do. JohnnyRingo Jul 28 #26
I don't think they know the meaning of the word "scapegoat." onenote Jul 28 #28
When the United States gives its word, it must stand by it. Kid Berwyn Jul 28 #31
Even if the Court grants her petition for cert, it doesn't necessarily mean she wins her release from prison onenote Jul 28 #33
Just more proof you should never underestimate nasty white bastards - history is clear on this. walkingman Jul 28 #34
She is SO FULL OF brakester Jul 28 #37

doc03

(38,428 posts)
2. So in otherwords Trump can't risk giving her a
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 02:44 PM
Jul 28

pardon, kick it over the rubber stamp SCOTUS.

fujiyamasan

(719 posts)
16. It is a clever way to mitigate any political risk
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 04:41 PM
Jul 28

The SC has no accountability anyways (not that Trump has much), but people are less likely to hold the republicans accountable in the midterms based on a SC ruling, rather than an action by Trump.

We have seen that the SC is willing to rubber stamp most of his agenda, and don’t tell me the RW justices don’t have a back channel (more likely a direct channel) to the WH.


Just_Vote_Dem

(3,406 posts)
4. Why can't we hear from the victims instead of Maxwell?
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 03:07 PM
Jul 28

That's not directed at you sheshe, just our ridiculous media

SWBTATTReg

(25,712 posts)
6. I know that all have a right to plea their court cases to every venue that's possible, but in some cases, such as
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 03:37 PM
Jul 28

the heinous crimes of sexual predators, murder, mass shootings, other crimes as gruesome, there some be some safeguards put in place to ensure that additional measures are undertaken before a convicted predator, murderer, etc. is let loose again into our society.

mn9driver

(4,775 posts)
10. The Corrupt Court has already handed dictator power to Orangina
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 04:07 PM
Jul 28

Why would they stop now? This is probably the price that was negotiated for her silence.

H2O Man

(77,965 posts)
13. Recommended.
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 04:11 PM
Jul 28

Last September, the Second U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' three judges upheld her conviction and sentence. I doubt the USSC will even hear her appeal. It seems so unlikely, that her brother send the 50th birthday book to the WSJ, as a "hint" to the felon that if he fails to either reduce her sentence or pardon her, there is more to come. Note that the administration's reaction was to have the felon's lawyer, disguised as #2 at the DOJ, set up the meetings with her to talk shop. It is worth noting that he is a good friend of her attorney.

onenote

(45,681 posts)
32. In addition, the Second Circuit rejected her request for rehearing en banc in November.
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 05:42 PM
Jul 28

That being said, there is a split in the circuits on the underlying legal question, which greatly increases the chances the Court will grant the petition for cert. That doesn't mean, however, that she wins. It means the case will be scheduled for briefing and argument in the fall and that a decision, whenever it comes down, could go either way.

Mr. Evil

(3,393 posts)
15. Everyone can be sure
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 04:28 PM
Jul 28

if and when you see barricades and/or fencing going up around the SC building, you'll know what's coming.

sheshe2

(93,964 posts)
23. You never know...
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 05:23 PM
Jul 28

However, Ginnie wears the pants in that family. She is the boss! I honestly think she would cut off his 'appendage' if he did.

erronis

(21,381 posts)
19. I assume she has the goods on many of the RW justices. Not sure about the handmaiden.
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 04:48 PM
Jul 28

But possibly.

This could be the plot of one of those films where everyone is out to get each other before they squeal.

IronLionZion

(49,951 posts)
21. It's her crimes. She was an active participant in the crimes
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 05:06 PM
Jul 28

this isn't some BS girlfriend excuse.

bluestarone

(20,353 posts)
24. I will 100% shocked if nTHIS court does NOT agree with her.
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 05:27 PM
Jul 28

They WILL release her, plus she will sue for MILLIONS!! (and win)

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,151 posts)
25. "Hey SCOTUS, overturn my prosecution, because Eliot Ness is a big-fat, doo-doo head!"--Al Capone 1930s
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 05:28 PM
Jul 28

JohnnyRingo

(20,171 posts)
26. John Roberts will probably call Trump to see what he should do.
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 05:29 PM
Jul 28

Thomas and Kavenaugh already know the procedure.

onenote

(45,681 posts)
28. I don't think they know the meaning of the word "scapegoat."
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 05:33 PM
Jul 28

A scapegoat is someone who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others.

Maxwell was convicted of having assisted, facilitated, and participated in Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse of minor girls by, among other things, helping Epstein to recruit, groom, and ultimately abuse victims known to her to be under the age of 18 -- as young as 14 years old when they were groomed and abused by her and Epstein. The evidence established that she not only procured under age victims -- children -- for Epstein to abuse, she herself at times participated in the sexual activity.

Kid Berwyn

(21,996 posts)
31. When the United States gives its word, it must stand by it.
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 05:37 PM
Jul 28

USG certainly doesn't stand behind it all the time, ask Red Cloud:

"They made us many promises, more than I can remember, but they kept but one. They promised to take our land, and they took it."

onenote

(45,681 posts)
33. Even if the Court grants her petition for cert, it doesn't necessarily mean she wins her release from prison
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 05:46 PM
Jul 28

The legal question presented involves a split in how different circuits apply non-prosecution agreements. If the Court grants the petition, all it means is the the case will be set for briefing and argument in the fall and that a decision, whenever it comes, could go either way: they could agree with those appeals court precedents that hold such an agreement only is binding in the district where it is entered -- and Maxwell loses --or they could agree with those appeals court precedents that hold such an agreement is binding on all districts -- and Maxwell then wins.

walkingman

(9,872 posts)
34. Just more proof you should never underestimate nasty white bastards - history is clear on this.
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 06:00 PM
Jul 28
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