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erronis

(20,781 posts)
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 07:40 PM Sunday

The Civil Discourse Book Club - 1984 -- Joyce Vance

https://joycevance.substack.com/p/the-civil-discourse-book-club

We have a book: George Orwell’s 1984.

I'm in. I'm a sucker for book clubs and this could be a very interesting discussion.

It’s the obvious book choice—it has been staring me in the face the whole time, and many of you suggested it. I even touched on it last night when I wrote about Trump’s effort to rewrite history. It’s an important book without being ponderous, the perfect beach read for serious times. And, full disclosure, I write about it a bit in my forthcoming book, so it’s been top of mind (and bookshelf) for months.

Why this book? It’s an illuminating look at the risks of succumbing to fascism. And so much more. It underscores the vital role of open, truthful dialogues, like the ones we have here and take out into our communities. It’s about the protection of democratic institutions against the corrosive effects of misinformation and attempts to rewrite history. I’ve read it with my classes on and off, and we always benefit from it. If you’ve been around awhile, you know we’ve discussed it here more than once.

But I’ll share what pushed me over the edge to choose 1984. There are so many great choices in the comments that I’d be excited to read with you. I stopped counting when I hit 37 and ordered half a dozen I hadn’t heard of or didn’t own already. But I knew it was going to be 1984 when I saw this:


A bias monitor. Accepted by a major news network. Not a huge public outcry as Trump brings the thought police of fiction into fact. We are overdue to read, or reread, 1984.

George Orwell: “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.

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The Civil Discourse Book Club - 1984 -- Joyce Vance (Original Post) erronis Sunday OP
Top comment on Joyce's post: erronis Sunday #1
Another insightful comment (referring to The Handsmaids Tale) erronis Sunday #2

erronis

(20,781 posts)
1. Top comment on Joyce's post:
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 07:43 PM
Sunday
“...she had without exception the most stupid, vulgar, empty mind that he had ever encountered. She had not a thought in her head that was not a slogan, and there was no imbecility, absolutely none that she was not capable of swallowing if the Party handed it out to her. 'The human sound-track' he nicknamed her in his own mind.” - George Orwell, 1984

He obviously knew Karoline….

erronis

(20,781 posts)
2. Another insightful comment (referring to The Handsmaids Tale)
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 09:40 PM
Sunday
Is there any other true option? Do we simple cave to the future that Trump and his handles want to bring on our country?

Another source of good discussions is on Substack. Check out 'The Ink'.

I'm glad I'm retired and have time and focus to address this situation as best I can. If I was still working, I couldn't give it the priority it needs. That's a benefit of being a "senior citizen.' We have maturity, experience, and ability to focus. The solution doesn't fall on the shoulders of any one of us. It takes all of us who care and are active in contributing as best we can.

Politically is one way. Another way his to be active in our communities, helping people who need assistance. Trump would love to know that he has intimidated and subdued us to the extent that we've decided to give up. Our fall back position is that we can always be determined to be good people.

Key thing: Be active!
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