and it’s disclosed to parents that guns are on campus.

but erased it. One of law enforcement’s most shameful moments, for sure.

Again, Uvalde comes to mind.

One would hope there’s a deterrent effect having law enforcement on-site. I pass two elementary schools on my way to/from work. Both have police officers on-site, and they park their cruisers prominently in the front.

My grandson’s private school has a sign at the entrance saying the campus is protected by armed individuals. I suppose cops dont work private schools, so I’ve not seen any cops. Either the sign is a ruse or there are some who are concealed carrying. Either way, I like the sign.

or stopped. But, given a choice of having a modicum of police presence at a school or not, I’d prefer having them there. And the same goes with having, at least, well-trained civilians willing to take on a role of stepping up should it become necessary. Administrators obviously need to be highly selective in who they would permit to carry.

Growing up in and still living in Arkansas, I am comfortable around guns. I dont carry, although I will usually put a handgun under my pickup seat if I need to go to Little Rock. So, I know my familiarity with guns colors my views on this subject. I’m hardly an outlier in my community.

You and I likely agree on 90% of DU-discussed topics. It sounds like this topic falls in the 10%! LOL

that they can even make it to the secured room?

Their mission: aim for the hands and unarm the guy, unless he is in an active shooter mode. In which case, set the drone on taser.

as in, performing community service hours and keeping a high G.P.A.

there is untold number of realistic video games that does that and more.

And, if you watch Home Alone, the kid sets some pretty lethal traps that could kill someone.

So, limiting them to tasers, when they're the first line of defense in their own school grounds...yes. Anything other than lethal weapons is a good idea.

Drones, of course.

There was a segment on national news tonight, NBC I think, which showed a team of men doing precisely what I'm talking about. They showed the drones going through the hallways of a school. And even used the drone to kamikaze against a mannequin. What I have seen from experienced video gamers, this would be quite easy for the young to master.

Fucking sick.

I never said kids shooting other kids. The active shooters these days are generally young men with a gun and a grudge.

What do you prefer? That school kids wait in fear until he figures a way to force the door open? At least the drones would keep him preoccupied until the police arrive.

I know you're not suggesting that the drone killed Melissa and Mark Hortman, or the dog. They were killed by an active shooter and I imagine the police used the drones to safely determine the situation.

And you just proved my point. The kids in the school would have a feeling of urgency and would act quicker than the police who arrived on site and had to determine what was going on before deciding on a plan.

You even said as much when you posted in Comment #5 "5. Cops aren't required to protect anybody, so I don't see why having them at schools would be useful."

When you add that, to what you're saying here, that's some pretty non-committal positions you're pushing. You don't support having security on campus, you don't trust the police to go running into a building to protect anybody. And you don't believe kids should have even a small chance to protect themselves using non-lethal versions of drones. Your one solution: Prevent school shooting altogether.

Not sure how you go about doing that without using intrusive surveillance on the public, but that's your problem to resolve.

we're just SOL. Just give up folks. At least if your children die, at least you'll be able to comfort yourself
with pointless virtue signalling. I'm willing to bend my principles somewhat to at least try and prevent
school shootings. That may sometimes and in some places having armed personnel at the school.
Do I like it? No. Depressing as fuck? No doubt. I would like very to be able to live like I'm in a Nordic social democracy, but
I don't live in one.

Somebody has either been drinking, or has no idea from one end of a firearm to the other.

I don't drink and I'm a Jr. NRA member. Do you have a third option?