Also saying that Obama unfairly was doing surveillance on him because of Russia. But he has been under surveillance since 106 counts of money laundering to Russians using slot machines at his casino.

The Arugula Salad intrigue and the Grey Poupon Mustard plan...

All treasonous in their own way!

*Clutches :pearlnecklace: Pearls!*
🙄🙄

as in "clutching" your pearls (necklace); in a "horrorifed reaction". 👍

by accusing Pres O of the very thing we all saw trump commtt on TV on J6.

Gabbard is a kiss ass. Nothing to it.

The thing I assume Gabbard is talking about is the Russian interference in the 2016 election because no votes were altered (which Obama never said, and really when you've got Trump begging for "finding votes" maybe this isn't the smartest approach anyway) and some wording comments in various files and then the surveillance of Carter Page some of which were later determined to be invalid by the obviously not at all biased DOJ in 2019.

It's a flailing distraction.

After all the MAGATS, drumph could convince themselves that once was a fluke! Imho.

his first term in office, the bstrds met in secrecy to lend oath to a conspiracy - to make Obama a one term President, by undermining and obstructing him at every turn.

So clearly his reelection BROKE them... melted them down in ways that Trump and racists LIKE him apparently have yet to recover from.

Oh, soooo this!

"So clearly his reelection BROKE them... melted them down in ways that Trump and racists LIKE him apparently have yet to recover from.".

At this point... it's nonsense.

There is no definitive evidence that former President Barack Obama committed any treasonous act or was involved in a scandal that meets the legal definition of treason. However, recent allegations, primarily from President Donald Trump and Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, have claimed that Obama and his administration engaged in a “treasonous conspiracy” related to the 2016 presidential election. These claims center on the assertion that Obama’s administration manipulated intelligence to falsely suggest Russian interference in the election to undermine Trump’s victory. Let’s break this down based on available information:

### Background of the Allegations
- **Tulsi Gabbard’s Report (July 2025)**: Gabbard, as Director of National Intelligence, released a declassified report alleging that Obama administration officials, including figures like James Clapper, John Brennan, and James Comey, “manufactured” intelligence to create a narrative of Russian interference in the 2016 election. The report claims this was part of a “years-long coup” to subvert Trump’s presidency. Gabbard has called for criminal investigations, including against Obama, and referred documents to the Department of Justice.[](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/18/tulsi-gabbard-obama-2016-election-russia)[](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/18/tulsi-gabbard-2016-election-investigation-00463779)[](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5409448-gabbard-alleges-obama-officials-manipulated-intelligence/)
- **Trump’s Statements**: Trump has publicly accused Obama of treason, claiming “irrefutable proof” that Obama led efforts to “steal” or “obfuscate” the 2016 election, often tying these allegations to the broader “Russia hoax” narrative. He has suggested Obama should face prosecution, though no concrete evidence has been presented to support these claims.[](https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/22/politics/trump-obama-treason-accusation-analysis)[](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-accuses-obama-treason-escalating-attacks-over-2016-russia-probe-2025-07-23/)[](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/22/us/politics/trump-obama-clinton-epstein-treason.html)
- **Context of the Claims**: These allegations appear to be a revival of long-standing disputes over the 2016 election, where U.S. intelligence agencies concluded Russia conducted influence operations (e.g., social media campaigns, hacking Democratic emails) to favor Trump over Hillary Clinton. Gabbard’s report disputes this, focusing on a December 2016 intelligence assessment that found no evidence of Russian cyberattacks altering vote tallies, suggesting Obama’s team suppressed this to push a false narrative.[](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/obama-pushes-back-trumps-outrageous-bizarre-treason-claim-rcna220393)[](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/22/donald-trump-accuses-barack-obama-of-treason-over-2016-election-claims)

### Counterarguments and Rebuttals
- **Obama’s Response**: Obama’s office issued a rare statement calling the allegations “bizarre,” “ridiculous,” and a “weak attempt at distraction.” It emphasized that the 2016 intelligence community’s findings, affirmed by a 2020 bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report (led by Marco Rubio), concluded Russia sought to influence the election but did not manipulate votes.[](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/07/22/obama-response-trump-treason-claims/)[](https://time.com/7304820/trump-treason-obama-response-distraction-epstein-guilty-president-prosecution/)[](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/obama-trump-russiagate-tulsi-gabbard-treason-b2794134.html)
- **Democratic and Expert Criticism**: Democrats, including Rep. Jim Himes and Sen. Mark Warner, have dismissed Gabbard’s report as “baseless” and “politically motivated,” accusing her of misrepresenting intelligence. Experts, like former CIA analyst Fulton Armstrong, argue the report conflates distinct issues (e.g., influence campaigns vs. vote tampering) and manipulates ambiguities in intelligence assessments.[](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/22/obama-breaks-silence-trump)[](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/18/us/politics/gabbard-obama-trump-russia.html)[](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/gabbards-unprecedented-claim-president-led-treasonous-conspiracy-rcna217151)
- **Established Findings**: The 2017 intelligence community assessment, the Mueller Report (2019), and the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report (2020) confirmed Russia’s interference through disinformation and hacking, though no evidence showed vote tallies were altered. These findings contradict Gabbard’s claim that the Obama administration fabricated the interference narrative.[](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/22/obama-breaks-silence-trump)[](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-accuses-obama-treason-escalating-attacks-over-2016-russia-probe-2025-07-23/)[](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/18/tulsi-gabbard-2016-election-investigation-00463779)

### Legal Definition of Treason
- Treason, as defined by the U.S. Constitution (Article III, Section 3) and 18 U.S.C. § 2381, involves levying war against the U.S. or providing aid and comfort to its enemies, requiring clear intent and tangible acts with two witnesses or a confession in open court. Legal experts, such as those cited in TIME, argue that disagreements over intelligence assessments do not meet this threshold, calling the accusations “silly.”[](https://time.com/7304820/trump-treason-obama-response-distraction-epstein-guilty-president-prosecution/)[](https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/obama-to-face-treason-charges-over-2016-russia-collusion-hoax-tulsi-gabbard-drops-bombshell-amid-traitor-reports-101752871973625.html)
- Even if Obama directed a misleading assessment (which is unproven), this would not legally constitute treason, as it does not involve waging war or aiding enemies. Any prosecution would also face challenges due to presidential immunity for official acts, as noted by a recent Supreme Court ruling.[](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/24/justice-department-obama-2016-election)

### Context and Motives
- **Distraction from Epstein Scandal**: Multiple sources suggest Trump and Gabbard’s focus on Obama may be an attempt to divert attention from scrutiny over Trump’s handling of Jeffrey Epstein-related files, which has frustrated his base.[](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cedgqnp897lo)[](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-obama-accusations-barack-obama-treason-2102486)[](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/gabbards-unprecedented-claim-president-led-treasonous-conspiracy-rcna217151)
- **Political Retribution**: Trump’s history of targeting political opponents, including revoking security clearances and investigating perceived enemies, frames these accusations as part of a broader campaign of retribution.[](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/22/us/politics/trump-obama-clinton-epstein-treason.html)[](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/25/trump-says-obama-committed-treason-this-is-alice-in-wonderland-style-justice)
- **Social Media Amplification**: Posts on X and other platforms have amplified these claims, with some calling for Obama’s prosecution or even execution. However, these reflect sentiment rather than evidence and have been criticized for fueling extremist rhetoric.[](

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

"These allegations appear to be a revival of long-standing disputes over the 2016 election, where U.S. intelligence agencies concluded Russia conducted influence operations (e.g., social media campaigns, hacking Democratic emails) to favor Trump over Hillary Clinton. Gabbard’s report disputes this, focusing on a December 2016 intelligence assessment that found no evidence of Russian cyberattacks altering vote tallies, suggesting Obama’s team suppressed this to push a false narrative."

That part was the "scandal" connection I thought she was attempting to make...as I understand, nobody seriously questioned vote-altering-cyberattacks because the machines aren't hooked up to "cyberspace."

But needless to say, the kooks are running with it.

Definition of Treason...I stay brushed up on that. I visit a technical service forum relative to my work. I been there for years but just recently discovered a forum for the political kooks. I recently posted a reply saying Trump accusing anyone of treason is the epitome of hypocrisy, listing is attempts to overturn an election, overthrow the government, stealing classified documents and revealing classified information.

Someone replied all that was Democrat indoctrination. You can't win an argument with Trump idiots.

Once the technical crowd as a whole, discovers I'm a flaming progressive, they'll either blackball or ban me...

in 2012 …

He has hated Obama with an all-consuming obsession. Obama is Caesar's ghost to him, and racism is the core of his politics, and the GOP, guardians of pedophiles.
ETA
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-obama-ai-video-arrest-concerns-rcna220382

I hadn’t seen that.

In reality does not even identify a single illegal act, let alone treason. The memo doesn't name a single law he supposedly broke (because he didn't break any laws).

NT

Facts, evidence, collaborating information never needed

You'd think if you were going to accuse someone of treason, somewhere in the mountain of lies you tell about them would be something that could be identified as a crime - yet she manages to accuse Obama of treason without ever naming even one thing he supposedly did that was illegal. All the shit she made up about him would have been completely legal even if it had been true.

The evil tan suit

Another walking bag of shit...

All the things Trump is not.

Instead of participating in cocaine and hooker sex parties like people
who shall not be named.

She never graduated, she only attended one year.

Her genius skill set does not involve book learning.

He had the AUDACITY to be 'Presidenting' while black.

Period.
EOM

being handsome, smart, funny, having a loving wife, kids and the rest of the world that respect him, being a great athlete, having a great singing voice, being able to speak in complete sentences, not having to threaten people to accomplish goals.

The horror!

And, he did no such thing. That's unforgivable in the Trump world.
How dare he be honest!

He's a disappearing breed. Joe Biden as well.

You would have to look back at the film of President Obama mocking the felon at the press dinner.

It was Gabbard's attempt, of course, to slither back into the felon's favor after she had said something about Iran shortly before the bombing. Nothing uttered from her mouth should ever be repeated, but those who watch the news know. It made the sociopath-in-chief furious, because it was the opposite of what he was saying. Thus, he was ignoring her, and seriously considering replacing her. For she had slipped up and told the truth, something frowned upon in this administration.

I hope Trump does the world a favor and drops dead soon. Now, would be a good time.

Among other things, Dump claims the 2016 election, which he won, was stolen from him. He says he should have won all 50 states in 2016 and 2020.

As with "Obamagate" and Hillary Clinton's "many [unspecified] crimes," MAGA claims the proof is self-evident to those who do their "homework."

He's like a comedian who's bombing so he panics and tries to recycle the first big joke of his career.

One of the Obama girls whispered something to her dad and you saw Obama shake his head, probably to tell her that "no, Paul McCartney didn't write that song about mommy."

It was a wonderful, precious moment of a wonderful president and his family.

Link to tweet

People can’t stop taliking about the shit that comes out of trumps mouth.

Everyone would be much better off if we discussed ONLY what he does.
Ignore what he says.
It’s bullshit. Mention it in passing if you must and dismiss it for the garbage that it is.
Then spend your time on what he is doing and the damage it does and how we might counter it.

It starts with the hacks or leaks of Hillary's emails. Her campaign maintained that the emails were made public through Russian hacking and not through a leak from within Hillary's campaign (Seth Rich being a suspected leaker) or through Hillary's negligence in using an inadequately-secured, non-State Dept. server in her basement for emails connected with her employment, instead of sticking with the federally-secured State Dept. email system.

After the 2016 election, the CIA & FBI initially assessed that the Russian government had not engaged in any significant hacking of the election, or at least not to an extent sufficient to affect the outcome. As part of their investigation, the CIA &/or FBI had reviewed the Steele dossier, which had been paid for by the Hillary campaign and which purported to show collusion between Trump and the Russians to rig the election in Trump's favor (and I guess the outing of Hillary's emails was supposedly part of that effort?). The intelligence agencies initially assessed that the dossier was from a source known to be unreliable and that, for that & other reasons, should not be relied on. (Part of the idea is that the Hillary campaign initially paid for the Steele dossier in order to divert attention from their contents, which were potentially embarrassing to her campaign, and as well as blame for the leak/hacking, among other motives.)

The documents released by Gabbard appear to show that when the conclusion reached by the agencies that there was no evidence of significant Russian election rigging and/or collusion was communicated to Pres. Obama, he sent the agencies back to try to reach a different conclusion.

At that point, the story goes, the agencies had already noted that there was little or nothing to support the collusion theory except the Steele dossier, so they resurrected that; in addition, they and/or other Dems tried to imply that there was also other evidence of collusion that could not be revealed for reasons of national security.

The Steele dossier was supposedly the principal evidence relied on in obtaining a warrant to spy on Carter Page, a member of Trump's campaign &/or admin., in order to try to dig up more evidence re- collusion.

The feds' reliance on the Steele dossier is at the core of the argument that Russiagate was a hoax; the claim is that the feds knew that it was bogus but hid their own doubts about it & basically lied about it to a federal court in order to get a warrant, initiating an extended fishing expedition and providing an opening for all kinds of "where there's smoke, there must be fire" slurs, as well as violating the Constitutional rights of Trump & his staff.

I believe Tulsi's documents are also claimed to suggest that the agencies never really did have any additional, "secret" evidence of significant hacking or collusion, as some officials had suggested; and in any case, unfortunately, the Mueller investigation never turned up enough further evidence to bring charges against Trump.

second, he is very intelligence and third, he is a Democrat. Any one of those three is scandalous as per republicans.

"That's it and that's ALL."
~ Legends of the Fall

The third time might have been a scandal, but it never got that far.

First ya make up something bad about your political opponents, say, call them a traitor. Then ya say there’s evidence and announce it with much fanfare, and then you lock them up.

Ask Steve Bannon or Stephen Miller: It’s NAZI 101.