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Uncle Joe

(62,523 posts) Sun Jul 27, 2025, 12:16 PM Sunday

Moment Israeli army intercepts Gaza-bound aid ship Handala

Footage shows the moment Israeli forces intercepted an aid ship heading for Gaza on Saturday evening (26 July).

The Freedom Flotilla Coalition released a statement saying its civilian vessel Handala was intercepted about 40 miles from Gaza.

The Handala was carrying 21 civilians representing 12 countries, including parliamentarians, lawyers, journalists, labor organizers, environmentalists, and other human rights defenders.

Watch more on Independent TV: https://tinyurl.com/yc7ukx9n

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Moment Israeli army intercepts Gaza-bound aid ship Handala (Original Post) Uncle Joe Sunday OP

Israel doesn't want anyone to see the full destruction of Gaza or its starving people. Lonestarblue Sunday #1

Precisely Uncle Joe Sunday #2

spelling correction Be Leave On Sunday #5

Thanks for the footage! IDF did a great job! tritsofme Sunday #3

For sure. Guarding and filming a bunch of hands-up, unarmed humanitarians is brave work indeed. AloeVera Sunday #9

This is a certain type of "heroism" of outright criminals. David__77 Sunday #11

Don't forget handing out free sandwiches to a bunch of self-aggrandizing showoffs. Beastly Boy Sunday #17

Why do you cheer keeping food out of the mouths of starving children? David__77 Sunday #13

There wasn't a single starving child on that boat. Beastly Boy Sunday #18

Ship should be inspected sabbat hunter Sunday #4

What, no "piracy"? Ho "highjacking"? No SOS signals? No "unprovoked attack in international waters"? Beastly Boy Sunday #6

It is an illegal blockade. David__77 Sunday #12

No it is not. Beastly Boy Sunday #15

Not until you brought it up. Iggo Sunday #14

Not trying to mean Samael13 Sunday #7

Works fine for me. N/T AloeVera Sunday #10

your link: Celerity Sunday #21

The IDF heroically defended Gaza from an invasion of vicious humanitarians delivering food and medicine to Ping Tung Sunday #8

The IDF prevented breach of a legal blockade, and their action was predictable and expected. Beastly Boy Sunday #16

Breaches of International Law? From someone who defends war crimes and the boss who orders the atrocities. Ping Tung Sunday #19

Ad hominem anyone? Beastly Boy Sunday #20

Lonestarblue

(12,846 posts)

1. Israel doesn't want anyone to see the full destruction of Gaza or its starving people.

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 12:26 PM

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Palestinian children are being starved deliberately. Women and children gave been killed in unusual numbers in this war because without them there is no Palestinian future. The Netanyahu government needs to be tried for war crimes now.

Uncle Joe

(62,523 posts)

2. Precisely

Reply to Lonestarblue (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 12:28 PM

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I agree 100%

Be Leave On

(263 posts)

5. spelling correction

Reply to Lonestarblue (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 02:12 PM

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Palestinian children are being starved deliberately. Women and children have been killed in unusual numbers in this genocide because without them there is no Palestinian future. The Netanyahu government needs to be tried for war crimes now.

tritsofme

(19,435 posts)

3. Thanks for the footage! IDF did a great job!

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 12:29 PM

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AloeVera

(3,455 posts)

9. For sure. Guarding and filming a bunch of hands-up, unarmed humanitarians is brave work indeed.

Reply to tritsofme (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 03:23 PM

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Though the people of Gaza no doubt benefitted from these soldiers' absence, as short as it may have been.

David__77

(24,358 posts)

11. This is a certain type of "heroism" of outright criminals.

Reply to AloeVera (Reply #9)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 03:44 PM

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Beastly Boy

(13,184 posts)

17. Don't forget handing out free sandwiches to a bunch of self-aggrandizing showoffs.

Reply to AloeVera (Reply #9)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 05:03 PM

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Dirty work, but someone's got to do it.

David__77

(24,358 posts)

13. Why do you cheer keeping food out of the mouths of starving children?

Reply to tritsofme (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 03:54 PM

Sunday

Beastly Boy

(13,184 posts)

18. There wasn't a single starving child on that boat.

Reply to David__77 (Reply #13)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 05:07 PM

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A bunch of publicity-seeking brats, but they were only acting like children. And they were fed.

sabbat hunter

(7,015 posts)

4. Ship should be inspected

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 12:31 PM

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make sure there are no weapons on board, then allowed to proceed to give people living in Gaza much needed food.

Beastly Boy

(13,184 posts)

6. What, no "piracy"? Ho "highjacking"? No SOS signals? No "unprovoked attack in international waters"?

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 02:17 PM

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In related news:

Israel seeks permanent seizure of Gaza-bound 'Freedom Flotilla' ship

Israel has filed a request to permanently confiscate the Gaza-bound ship Madleen from the “Freedom Flotilla,” after it attempted to break the naval blockade on the Gaza Strip.

The request, submitted Thursday by the Haifa District Attorney’s Office on behalf of the State of Israel, was made to the Haifa District Court sitting as a maritime court. The state is asking to seize the vessel “in favor of the state treasury.”

The Madleen was intercepted early last month by the Israeli Navy as it approached the waters off Gaza. According to the government’s statement, the ship had "attempted to violate the legal naval blockade imposed on the Gaza Strip.”

“The request submitted by the Haifa District Attorney’s Office is based on international law, which grants countries the right to seize vessels that attempt to breach a naval blockade, and gives the court authority to order their forfeiture. According to the laws of naval warfare, breaching or attempting to breach a blockade gives the state the right to search and seize the vessel,” the statement said.

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/ryk8hflpge

David__77

(24,358 posts)

12. It is an illegal blockade.

Reply to Beastly Boy (Reply #6)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 03:51 PM

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Israel's blockade is illegal under international law (Geneva Conventions Article 33). Confiscating aid ships is collective punishment.

This isn't security - it's starvation as a weapon.

Beastly Boy

(13,184 posts)

15. No it is not.

Reply to David__77 (Reply #12)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 04:45 PM

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Article 33 of the additional protocols to the fourth Geneva convention is only applicable to "protected persons" as defined in Article 4 of the Fourth Geneva convention:

Article 4

Persons protected by the Convention are those who, at a given moment and in any manner whatsoever, find themselves, in case of a conflict or occupation, in the hands of a Party to the conflict or Occupying Power of which they are not nationals.

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.33_GC-IV-EN.pdf

Neither the ship in question nor its occupants were in conflict with Israel at the time they found themselves in Israel's hands. They are not covered by the article you think they are covered by.

A blockade, on the the hand, is a legitimate method of warfare and is covered in Articles 93 - 108 of the additional protocols to the Geneva Conventions. Article 98 specifically states:

98. Merchant vessels believed on reasonable grounds to be breaching a blockade may be captured. Merchant vessels which, after prior warning, clearly resist capture may be attacked

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/san-remo-manual-1994/article-93-108

It's a friggin legal and legitimate blockade under international law. And anyone resisting capture would have put themselves at risk of legitimate military attack.

Iggo

(49,029 posts)

14. Not until you brought it up.

Reply to Beastly Boy (Reply #6)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 04:43 PM

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But now that you mention it….

Samael13

(52 posts)

7. Not trying to mean

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 02:20 PM

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But i think your link may be wrong I clicked it to check out the whole story and it brought me to some video about a celebrity taking about penis socks

AloeVera

(3,455 posts)

10. Works fine for me. N/T

Reply to Samael13 (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 03:24 PM

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Celerity

(51,190 posts)

21. your link:

Reply to AloeVera (Reply #10)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 08:06 PM

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Watch more on Independent TV: https://tinyurl.com/yc7ukx9n

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Ping Tung

(3,177 posts)

8. The IDF heroically defended Gaza from an invasion of vicious humanitarians delivering food and medicine to

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 02:25 PM

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well fed, healthy, survivors of war crimes.

Beastly Boy

(13,184 posts)

16. The IDF prevented breach of a legal blockade, and their action was predictable and expected.

Reply to Ping Tung (Reply #8)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 04:58 PM

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My guess is Gretta's rave reviews of the free IDF ham sandwiches made the prospects of detainment irresistibly enticing, despite violations of international law.

Ping Tung

(3,177 posts)

19. Breaches of International Law? From someone who defends war crimes and the boss who orders the atrocities.

Reply to Beastly Boy (Reply #16)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 06:41 PM

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And, the ones who are ducking warrants from the International Criminal Court.

Beastly Boy

(13,184 posts)

20. Ad hominem anyone?

Reply to Ping Tung (Reply #19)

Sun Jul 27, 2025, 07:34 PM

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Deflection anyone?

Tell me something about breach of blockade I don't know about. Otherwise, you are off topic.

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