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Hmmmm .. US birthrate at an all time low: (Original Post) applegrove Jul 26 OP
So is optimism among young strong correlation uponit7771 Jul 26 #1
Gotta admit, those are two good reasons. Diamond_Dog Jul 26 #2
Even dead, pregnant women have no rights. KentuckyWoman Jul 26 #3
I wish the birth rates were down all over the world. Haggard Celine Jul 26 #4
Except for Africa they mostly are ITAL Jul 26 #8
When women get an education they have 1.7 kids. applegrove Jul 26 #16
Fewer oligarchs ... littlemissmartypants Jul 26 #13
Problem is Capitalism requires constant growth IbogaProject Jul 26 #18
Many reasons for this..... BigmanPigman Jul 26 #5
What self-respecting woman would want to have sex with a Nazi Republican? Tarzanrock Jul 26 #6
The same morons that voted for Dump mdbl Jul 26 #11
Just wait until Trump's $1,000 birth bonus kicks in! Gimpyknee Jul 26 #7
You get the $1,000 check when the baby is born... hunter Jul 26 #19
And deservedly so. You want more babies that fucking badly? Improve quality of life and make it worth it for most of the Karasu Jul 26 #9
Oops. The immigrant population could have stabilized the birthrate. hay rick Jul 26 #10
problem is all the mouth breathing MAGAts are pumping out kids ever 40 weeks......... Takket Jul 26 #12
The Aschen have arrived! BidenRocks Jul 26 #14
But muh Baby Bonus!! Muh Trump Tariff Check!! Muh DOGE payment!!! hatrack Jul 26 #15
Seriously, a 0.12% decline from 2024 Greg_In_SF Jul 26 #17
It says it's an all-time low NickB79 Jul 27 #20
Birthrates are NOT "up." valleyrogue Jul 27 #22
Data... Greg_In_SF Jul 27 #23
Big families are incompatible with women's rights. valleyrogue Jul 27 #21
In addition to the factors mentioned above, snot Jul 27 #24

KentuckyWoman

(7,289 posts)
3. Even dead, pregnant women have no rights.
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 08:33 PM
Jul 26

Every female of child bearing age in my extended family had decided no more children or none at all.

Not long ago kin in Texas had to flee to California to avoid death when her pregnancy went south last trimester. They had to sell their home and move to a different suburb because some MAGA nut wanted to cash in on her "crime" of surviving.

The whole ordeal was a life lesson to her cousins and friends who do not want to take any chances.

Haggard Celine

(17,475 posts)
4. I wish the birth rates were down all over the world.
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 08:49 PM
Jul 26

Many of the environmental problems we're facing are due to overpopulation. Fewer people = a cleaner, healthier planet.

applegrove

(128,336 posts)
16. When women get an education they have 1.7 kids.
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 10:37 PM
Jul 26

Doesn't matter the country, race or culture. Educate, educate, educate.

littlemissmartypants

(29,879 posts)
13. Fewer oligarchs ...
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 10:31 PM
Jul 26

with petrochemical spewing jets would probably make the start of a better argument.

I saw a bumper sticker today that said:

If you can't feed um, don't breed um.

Focus on simply the myth of "overpopulation" as a primary culprit of our worldly ills is relinquishing the fact that the hungry littles didn't ask to be here.

It misses all other major points, imo.

Because it's never one thing (or one type of person) that creates a problem.

It's always a complex combination of cascading circumstances that creates the most truthful picture of the ultimate catalysts of destruction.

Blaming babies when wealthy adults can't get their ish together and continue to exacerbate the problem at the expense of everyone (including themselves) somehow doesn't seem fair to me.

YMMV. ❤️



IbogaProject

(5,022 posts)
18. Problem is Capitalism requires constant growth
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 11:05 PM
Jul 26

Similar to cancer. There arent enough resources in our galaxy to support the 20th century growth rate to much past 40 more centuries. We have to reorganize to get stable.

BigmanPigman

(53,833 posts)
5. Many reasons for this.....
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 08:57 PM
Jul 26

It is super expensive to have a kid (from conception to high school graduation, and more for college). Health care, high cost of living, poor predictions for future employment, uncertain economic forecast, no affordable housing, etc.

Under MAGA them problem has increased much more than expected.

Add to it the burden placed on the females more than males, no access to healthcare, etc are all contributing factors.

The moral integrity and the status of the US has dramatically shifted and the world hates us. Who wants to raise kids in this environment?

Kudos for all those who have a brain and a choice!!!!!

hunter

(39,972 posts)
19. You get the $1,000 check when the baby is born...
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 11:21 PM
Jul 26

... and then you get the $10,000 hospital bill in the mail when you get home.

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
9. And deservedly so. You want more babies that fucking badly? Improve quality of life and make it worth it for most of the
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 09:56 PM
Jul 26

Last edited Sat Jul 26, 2025, 10:47 PM - Edit history (1)

population, instead of driving our lives into the ground just to pench pennies and kill off people you don't like.

You know, the polar opposite of what happens under fucking fascism.

hay rick

(9,066 posts)
10. Oops. The immigrant population could have stabilized the birthrate.
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 10:14 PM
Jul 26

The decline in the number of new workers will create reduced tax revenue and increased cost of services to support ageing boomers and Xers. Oops. Oops.

Greg_In_SF

(600 posts)
17. Seriously, a 0.12% decline from 2024
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 10:46 PM
Jul 26

is meaningless. Check back in September after all the New Year's Eve babies are born

Birth rates are WAY up over 2023.

NickB79

(20,110 posts)
20. It says it's an all-time low
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 12:14 AM
Jul 27

If so, birth rates can't be up vs 2023, because that would mean 2023 was the all-time low.

valleyrogue

(2,338 posts)
22. Birthrates are NOT "up."
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 01:00 AM
Jul 27

Please define what you think what "birthrates" are. I will tell you: It is the average number of children had per woman. They ain't going up.

However, marriage rates are in the ditch, too, and good riddance to that. Marriage is obsolete and should have died out centuries ago. More and more women, especially younger women, are rejecting the traditional script altogether.

valleyrogue

(2,338 posts)
21. Big families are incompatible with women's rights.
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 12:56 AM
Jul 27

Birthrates are declining all over the world except for a handful of African countries like Nigeria.

There is nothing that will reverse the trend.

Furthermore, more and more women, especially in the U.S. are preferring to remain single because they are not just rejecting more children--they aren't having marriage and children at all. They like their freedom and not having to take care of a grown manbaby who won't do one thing around the house.

snot

(11,307 posts)
24. In addition to the factors mentioned above,
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 07:27 PM
Jul 27

pregnancy itself is expensive, gruelling, and dangerous to your health (far moreso than abortion).

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