Now enter project 2025, and the United States is completely an entirely gone. 😡

If only the left could’ve stopped trashing the candidate who would’ve been the single most liberal and progressive president in history, Hillary Clinton.😡

... but now in 2025 it seems that Bannon is a sleazier, more contemptible piece of shit than Rush Limbaugh.

Who knew?

I talked about it in 2016 it’s one of the many reasons I could not believe how many people on the left or were nonstop trashing Hillary which is how that election was lost

And I thought “well, that’s over” and then my horror when Bannon took up the mantle

They just keep getting worse

The planet’s population will be culled to “manageable” size by famine, disease and war. The survivors who can afford such a possibility and their servants will be organized along certain lines, jawohl. And the kleptocrats and oligarchs who ran King Taco and Bill Barr will be ready to assume their place atop the kakistocracy. The new aristocracy won’t ever entertain the thought that they are merely the latest in a long line of cockroaches.

so those who survive will be as malleable as possible and, as you said, they will own and control everything.

With all the voter suppression, voter purges, lies about voter fraud, and herculean efforts to control elections, I'm struggling to hope it's not too late to recover.

I didn't think he advocated for DOING it INTENTIONALLY, just argued that it would inevitably happen when population grew to a catastrophic level.

He failed to take several factors into account, but sadly he is being proven CORRECT in the essence of his predictions.

That's just how I think of what seems like refusal to see that we can avoid his dire predictions and that it's not some utopian nonsense to recognize our abilities to avoid them. Also think of it as Malthusian to push policies that would accelerate our suffering catastrophic loss of life instead of working to prove him wrong.

Postponing them, perhaps.

But actually, I would say that we are LIVING his dire predictions.

Well, some people are, in the poorest and most violent societies, anyway.

For example, certain people might not be so dead set on inhabiting and fighting over a small area of land in the Middle East, if there were plenty of resources available elsewhere. And the same sad tale is playing out in many other places.

Then there is the yet unrealized cost of our technology and lust for growth, driving other species to extinction at a rate not experienced before during human history. We don't even know what damage that will do, so I don't know why anyone would think we can avoid the cost forever - except perhaps by figuring out how to stop extincting other species so rapidly.

Or whatever, just load another bowl and pass it around, take a nice toke and hold it in your lungs for awhile. All these worries will go away ... (not necessarily saying you're smoking something, but a helluva lot of people are, or otherwise being deliberately oblivious to reality)

smart people understand that climate change is happening much faster than we were led to believe. computing power has reached the point where
simulations can be done to predict the human consequences of climate change. the oligarchs KNOW that when the full effects of climate change
are felt, by sheer force of misery and numbers, the non-rich will be able to demand and obtain change that will not be favorable to the oligarchs. as a consequence of the foregoing, the oligarchs are "trying to get ahead of the problem". I've often thought about why russia remains so globally consequential...nukes notwithstanding. could it be their location having vast high latitude territories that may provide safe haven for the ultra rich when the rest of the world burns? let me just say metaphorically, if a spaceship full of the ultra-rich people seeks to leave a dying planet, it must not be allowed to leave. if our goose is cooked, i will work diligently to see their goose is burned.

this is the primary reason they're gutting noaa:

https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/noaa-completes-upgrade-to-weather-and-climate-supercomputer-system

they don't want the 'findings' to be public,

because it does NOT require NOAA or AI to understand the concept of finite resources.

Pretty sure I got that concept in junior high, if not earlier.

It is vitally important to the oligarchs that the 'pedestrian class' stay ignorant, else they might panic and do something "crazy."
Crypto figures into this too by creating an asset class independent of the dollar so these jackals can trade more or less anonymously amongst themselves. I think a good number of us realize what is generally going on, but don't have sufficient buy-in from the general public to implement solutions.
Organization is key - and I just don't see much organized opposition to this - in the form of an oppositional narrative - although I've harped on the need for years. Where are our think tanks? Why can't we come up with a Project 2028? SMDH.

leadership in science and technology while destroying healthcare research.

Large numbers of us stopped watching MSNBC (I recognize that many cut cable long ago), and I don’t know about you all, but I have had zero patience for fundraising emails from politicians or action groups. It’s not that I’ve “checked out”; it’s that we seriously overestimated the ability of even those decent or well-meaning forces to be effective or protect us.
(By “us”, I mean the country, the United States — not just Democrats. Most people on DU would get that, but any red hat visitors might need it spelled out for them, since they have so little thoughts outside of their own self and their own tribe.)

I don’t know what strategy makes sense right now,, and kudos to the fighters in the ring, but seriously, we haven’t checked out. We’re attending to life-planning, trying out different communication techniques, keeping our sanity, and waiting for some clarity: What is actually effective and what will just waste time and resources (while enriching the very companies that got us in this mess.)

Nor is degrading US public schools and scientific research. Alienating our longtime allies and pissing off our major trading partners in a globally integrated economy is also pretty damn stupid, if your primary goal is increasing shareholder value.

Of course, fascism (or Christo-fascism) has additional goals, with power and control being the highest priorities. Billionaire tech bros are certainly part of that. They may not have the same motivation as rightwing evangelicals, but church and cyber are both forms of mind control.

A great deal of wealth and power is behind the current destruction of our government, but much of the implementation is in the hands of a Trump administration which has decimated huge chunks of government expertise -- and the cabinet is staffed with unqualified sycophants & nutjobs.

In other words, what's happening does not look like a cohesive master plan. Those involved are better at destruction than building a stable model for future success, even one intended to benefit only a few at the top.

Shock. In the Shock Doctrine, it is clear that chaos IS a plan. They “flood the zone’, overwhelm the opposition, attack on all fronts. Normal sane thinking is to NOT fight on all fronts, to prioritize your battles. But in the Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein, the author details how a series of shocks was implemented in MANY countries such as Chile and Argentina to throw existing civic structures out, erased expectations, and sap the left and moderates of their energy. Destroying an economy doesn’t make money for the masses or even for all of the rich, but for those in the know, they stand a LOT to gain from advance knowledge of the plan.

Climate. Many of these guys (the TechnoBrats) may be quite knowledgeable of the rate of climate change and the details of its effects on geopolitics, migration, energy consumption, ocean ecosystems, agriculture and societal stability. They know (as Harumph pointed out above) that the consequences may be so large and severe that the masses will eventually demand some protections and some government strategies — and ‘soaking the rich’ would obviously be high on the list.

AI. They attempted to prohibit regulations on AI for 10 years, in the OBBB — to give themselves time to restructure businesses and embed it everywhere. They also know that AI is turning into a tool to fulfill numerous functions now filled by humans, that it will have massive consequences on energy needs, and in their world, a desperate, insecure work force won’t pose as much of a threat individually.

Corporate boards Leonard Leo is using >$1 billion of Barry Said’s money to ensure that corporate boards have the same rightwing consistency as the Supreme Court. Closely aligned activist hedge funds are doing the same thing. That was Leo’s priority because he has essentially “finished the job” on the courts, and well on their way for education — so corporate boards are next. They aren’t rightwing enough, so behind the scenes, they have a strategy to squeeze companies until they replace a critical mass of executives and/or board members with like-minded loyal teammates.

I think they are well-coordinated, and they have a strategy.. Especially in comparison.

Cross posted this OP in
The Way Forward

https://democraticunderground.com/13243775

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