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bigtree

(91,995 posts)
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 01:21 PM Friday

Maybe it's just me, but how would pardoning his friend who's a sexual predator of children make him look less guilty?

...I thought all of the refusal to release the Epstein files was to deflect any blame and guilt coming at him from his associations with these sexual predators of children.

If Trump just outright pardons Maxwell, allowing her to escape any real accountability, he'll literally be an open accomplice to her crimes and abuses.

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Maybe it's just me, but how would pardoning his friend who's a sexual predator of children make him look less guilty? (Original Post) bigtree Friday OP
He's gonna do it...nt wcmagumba Friday #1
In exchange for her pardon, she can go public with the "truth" about Epstein. Jim__ Friday #2
A pardon would be political death for Krasnov gab13by13 Friday #3
She ain't dumb FHRRK Friday #8
I don't see how it would help him or the GOP. I was thinking maybe they just make sure she wins her appeal. tulipsandroses Friday #4
I can only conclude that what she COULD/WOULD say is so incredibly devastating that he thinks an agreement hlthe2b Friday #5
He obviously Traildogbob Friday #6
He thinks the "Obama committed Treason" thing is working for him. Happy Hoosier Friday #7
The same way releasing a Russian investigation report Johonny Friday #9
Recommended. H2O Man Friday #10

Jim__

(14,814 posts)
2. In exchange for her pardon, she can go public with the "truth" about Epstein.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 01:25 PM
Friday

Then all the Democrats, who are really guilty, will be exposed.
Just a guess.

gab13by13

(29,056 posts)
3. A pardon would be political death for Krasnov
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 01:27 PM
Friday

But, telling Maxwell he will pardon her after the 2028 election and then not pardoning her would be my guess.

Krasnov wants a Quid pro Nothing

FHRRK

(1,160 posts)
8. She ain't dumb
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 01:50 PM
Friday

And will not be tricked into delivering any goods prior to getting paid.

As for political death, not with Repukes. Look at the R support for him in Gallup, 90 percent. So basically every fucking R you know, every fucking one of them. Because those not supporting him will fold and follow the herd given any reason.

The mistake we have been making for a decade is thinking there is an off ramp for these people. I realized in about 2017 there wasn’t.

Then in 2024 I slipped again, and thought there is no fucking way that Trump will get more votes than he did in 2020. That there is no fucking way that Americans/Repubs as a group is that bad. Ooooopppps!

Repukes won’t give a shit if he pardons her, they will all fall in line. And the rest of us all see the next steps they will take, so we better start planning using the assumption that every Repuke will support mass round up of all Liberals, asset seizures, concentration camps, etc.

tulipsandroses

(7,770 posts)
4. I don't see how it would help him or the GOP. I was thinking maybe they just make sure she wins her appeal.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 01:28 PM
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Then they don't have to answer questions about it. They can just say she got off on a technicality and blame the Supreme Court.
Democrats should start using the phrase " Sweetheart deal" to describe what is going on.
She is looking for the same kind of sweetheart deal that her buddy got and this administration appears willing to dish out another sweetheart deal to a known pedophile.
I was driving while her lawyer gave his press conference, I stream the news when I'm driving. I had to turn it off. I literally felt sick as he was talking about how she has been treated unfair. Using the language that trump uses for himself.

hlthe2b

(110,810 posts)
5. I can only conclude that what she COULD/WOULD say is so incredibly devastating that he thinks an agreement
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 01:29 PM
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-with "the devil," for her silence is somehow less damning. For his most foregone cultist supporters, maybe, but anyone with two functioning brain cells, no.

Traildogbob

(11,569 posts)
6. He obviously
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 01:29 PM
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Has zero concern about What he LOOKS like, all that matters is HIS judges say, NOT guilty. And Fox says it over and over. Fuck the victims.

Happy Hoosier

(9,025 posts)
7. He thinks the "Obama committed Treason" thing is working for him.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 01:39 PM
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And given teh performance of media of the the last 10 years, he could well be right.

Johonny

(24,264 posts)
9. The same way releasing a Russian investigation report
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 01:52 PM
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That said he committed obstruction of justice 10 times which prevented a conclusion on his links to Russia's 2016 election interference was good enough for his base to nod their heads everytime he says Russian hoax. It works on the really really stupid people.

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