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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo this morning the rapist said that he can pardon
the convicted sexual predator and trafficker,
Go ahead. I double dare yah!

wcmagumba
(4,462 posts)
COL Mustard
(7,528 posts)In 2 weeks. Just like he does everything else!
aggiesal
(10,203 posts)I may have mentioned this in the past, but "A Christmas Story" is based in my hometown city where I grew up, Hammond, IN.
When I first watched this in the mid 80's, when internet wasn't around yet, the mention of the Chicago Bears up there, and down in Griffith (Indiana), I knew it was was close to where I grew up.
Then I found it just how close I was to this storied location.
The author of "A Christmas Story", is Jean Shepherd , who played the narrator & the gentleman who told Ralphie that the line to see Santa started waaaay back there, in the movie.
Jean Shepherd graduated from my high school, Hammond High School.
The school in the movie Warren G. Harding Elementary exists in the Hessville section of Hammond and is at the end of Cleveland St.
My cousins attended Harding Elementary.
So I tell people, that I grew up in "A Christmas Story"
stopdiggin
(14,101 posts)and I share your take. "You go right ahead there, Mr. Degenerate !"
Draw attention. Paint a vivid picture. And solidify you place in the gutter, with the swill and the swine ...
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Grins
(8,660 posts)What HASNT he gotten away with ?
He can, and he will.......he has no other choice. She has him by his teensy balls.........
stopdiggin
(14,101 posts)I think it is also notable that he seems to be catching heat here - apparently from directions that he previously has not.
I'll not speculate on how permanent that damage might be ... Or whether Maxwell makes any kind of lasting mark with the true believers.
gab13by13
(29,056 posts)and then not do it. Guessing Maxwell knows that also.
sop
(15,324 posts)If enough people say it would be an outrage, that he wouldn't dare pardon a convicted sexual predator and trafficker, his hypercontrarianism will get the better of him.
N/T
Ocelot II
(126,300 posts)Of course, once Maxwell is pardoned she can say whatever she wants, since AFAIK pardons can't be undone, and she's dumber than I think she is (she may be evil but I don't think she's stupid) if she talks before she has that pardon in hand. But she is not known for her truthfulness in the first place, and whatever she says in exchange for a pardon will be highly suspect, to say the least. Of course perjury charges can also be pardoned, but that would make the whole business even stinkier.
Kablooie
(18,957 posts)And of course Trump can promise it and then forget all about it later.
Ocelot II
(126,300 posts)H2O Man
(77,542 posts)Gracious! It's as if he finds himself where every option hurts him with his base. Thoughts & prayers for his making the worst choice!
malaise
(287,164 posts)
johnnyfins
(2,520 posts)"Educate" people that he is allowed to pardon people. I hope he does pardon her. Let the shitstorm begin.
58Sunliner
(5,904 posts)I was reading a victim statement the other day that Ivana used to hunt for victims with Maxwell, fully understanding what was happening. They are all sick and pathological. If Maxwell had an ounce of self preservation she would start singing like a canary, and ask to be transferred to a secure facility explicitly outlining the risk to her life.
Ocelot II
(126,300 posts)with instructions to release it to the media if anything happens to her, and maybe she let Todd Blanche know about it just in case Trump has any nefarious ideas. I think she's savvy enough to have installed a dead-man's switch like that for her safety.
FakeNoose
(38,026 posts)... SOMEONE is holding all the evidence in a safe, and it will be released if Ghislaine should happen to meet an untimely demise. That's what is keeping her alive now.
I don't have any insider info on this, but I've tried to keep up with the various rumors, stories and court proceedings.
Wiz Imp
(6,277 posts)Maxwell's lawyer is very close friends with Todd Blanche.
58Sunliner
(5,904 posts)The one caveat might be a video or pictures of DT and JE raping a minor.
FakeNoose
(38,026 posts)I'm sure Ghislaine understands her dangerous predicament. She was living off-the-books for several years in the private homes of various friends. She does have resources. It might be awful living in a prison but they are keeping her safe for now.
58Sunliner
(5,904 posts)Another suicide would be very suspicious at this point, but I don't know that they care about optics. Maybe he will let her out and then she'll "suicide" or have a fatal accident. Who knows what leverage she has. I bet the thought has crossed his mind to silence her permanently. He also knows that people have been giving the media documents. What would a paranoid, demented idiot do? Stay tuned.
FakeNoose
(38,026 posts)When Epstein was convicted in Florida in 2007 or 2008, Ghislaine and Jeffrey had very little contact after that. For awhile she remained in New York (I believe) but eventually she started moving around staying with friends, and keeping one step ahead of the law. Virginia Giuffre was already bringing lawsuits against both of them, and she got them charged with rape and trafficking crimes. (Giuffre had fled the country and was living in Australia, and that caused delays.)
It almost looked like Maxwell would skip out of everything and leave the country unnoticed. But somehow the law tracked her down. I think it might have been the GPS on her phone that gave her away. (Or maybe somebody dropped a dime on her?) She was hiding at a friend's house in Massachusetts at the time.
My point is that Maxwell was "under cover" for almost 10 years ... leading up to her being arrested and charged with the crimes. It happened during Chump's first term, I'm thinking maybe 2019? I can't remember, but IF Chump had been trying to have her "suicided" ... well, we never would have heard anything, would we? It would have never made the papers.
58Sunliner
(5,904 posts)Her death, even if natural, would have been noted.
2 July 2020: Ghislaine Maxwell is arrested by the FBI at her New Hampshire home. They used a stingray.
Red Mountain
(2,147 posts)isn't she compelled to answer official questions?
No pleading the 5th?
Nixie
(17,766 posts)of him. That will be his cover. Hell whitewash himself out of the convo. Look over there.
usonian
(19,374 posts)So, in general yes, but a loophole.
rzemanfl
(30,710 posts)poli-junkie
(1,331 posts)Javaman
(64,309 posts)halobeam
(5,052 posts)what can happen that will disappoint him?
mucholderthandirt
(1,623 posts)rubbersole
(10,170 posts)They're just getting their ducks in a row. But they'd better hurry. Looking like Murdoch/Thiel/Vance are making a move. tsf has become an unnecessary distraction.
not fooled
(6,398 posts)that even pardoning Maxwell won't stop the release of damaging information.
Whether it's enough to dislodge the monster would remain to be seen.
BTW, how dumb would his supporters have to be to still follow him after he pardons Maxwell? Dumb enough to not put 2 + 2 together?
rubbersole
(10,170 posts)When faux news, not just Murdoch's WSJ, starts trashing tsf...it is go time. 25th amendment will be next. Vance won't get the support from magatville. Faux will try, but JD wears too much eyeliner for the Qanon gang.
kimbutgar
(25,662 posts)You dont pardon a convicted sex offender!
Beck23
(397 posts)slightlv
(6,197 posts)37% Gallop poll can go on you! (ROTFLMAO!) He will just announce to the world and every "christian" magat who voted for him that he has something so perverse to hide, that he's willing to hide the news that Clinton and Prince Andrew and who knows who else is in the files. Like, he pardons her, and QAnon is going to go nuts on his ass.
TheRickles
(2,887 posts)Amidst all the recent legal wranglings, I've forgotten - can he do that, if his crimes aren't considered part of his official Presidential duties?
LNM
(1,197 posts)Wouldnt be part of a presidents official duties, but the SC thought differently.
Wiz Imp
(6,277 posts)After the election, it was known that the Trump DOJ would completely drop the case, so Jack Smith filed a motion to dismiss the charges without prejudice. On November 25, 2024, Judge Chutkan approved the request and dismissed the charges. In January 2025, the special counsel report was released, in which "the Office assessed that the admissible evidence was sufficient to obtain and sustain a conviction at trial."
Dave Id
(140 posts)She knows Trump is on "the list", so Trump wants to keep her silent by pardoning her. Duh!
Arazi
(8,207 posts)And his cult loved it. Hes pardoned many other sex offenders and even murderers without consequence.
Theyll believe whatever story he tells them.
Traitor will certainly pardon Ghislaine Maxwell
Kid Berwyn
(21,514 posts)
fall within the scope of Trumps Official Duties, so its all gonna be legal-like.
every band should use this as an album cover for all their releases for a year
— Fully Retractable (@fullyretractable.bsky.social) 2025-07-22T23:38:59.984Z
Hes like a king who can do anything.
FakeNoose
(38,026 posts)... to all the years BEFORE he was president!
Kid Berwyn
(21,514 posts)Traitor Trump led a violent insurrection to raid Congress and overturn an election he lost.
Now, hes free to dismantle the government, rewrite history, and prosecute those who stand in his way.
Anyone else would be busy all day busting rocks and making license plates.
Because he isnt is proof of the complicity of John Roberts and their MAGANAZIGOP conspiracy.
AntiFascist
(13,579 posts)Maybe he'll do it after the midterms or right before he leaves office.
malaise
(287,164 posts)Rec
Ping Tung
(3,162 posts)Maybe it's a promise of his well known natural compassion and sympathy
Sneederbunk
(16,336 posts)Why not?