Proof that you can’t escape fascism even living in a blue state. And that you need to vote blue no matter what because as much as some people would like to convince you, there is a difference in the two parties.

They're doing cost/benefit analysis and coming to the conclusion that they can either continue as-is and lose federal funding that pays for lots of other procedures, programs, etc., stop/curtail gender affirming care for minors and keep the federal money that pays or other things.

AFAIK, that’s what it is in Canada, and surgery on adults is only performed after two years of preparatory gender affirming treatments and counselling.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding the terminology- is there a difference between surgeries that are “gender affirming” and gender reassignment surgeries?

It's moving that way now, based on the threats to federal funding.

Gender-affirming care is a much broader category, but I don't know that there is a difference between gender-affirming and gender reassignment surgeries.

By the end of this year, acknowledging that kids can be trans or treating them will effectively be banned in the US. In my prediction, later this year or next year, they’ll start trying to do the same for adults, with the ultimate goal of completely removing trans people from society. Hopefully they don’t succeed.

I've seen not seen anything that says they're stopping all gender-affirming care for minors.

There were 5 or so that entirely closed their programs this week, even for existing patients. The guidance is purposely vague to try and bully them into ending all gender affirming care rather than just surgeries, which were so rare that they didn’t really exist. They had to do it to avoid losing their funding entirely.

This happened even in blue states. Yale for example completely ended their program yesterday.

What’s left of the programs is for talk therapy only. That’s it. This is the fate for all the remaining hospitals. If they haven’t ended their teen gender affirming care programs, they are going to soon. It’s effectively banned.

I was talking about Kaiser Permanente in particular, but thanks for the additional info.

It seems that this country is going in the same direction as some European countries when it comes to GAC for minors

Trump is the mouse that keeps being given the cookie, and, he’s going to keep pushing until he can’t anymore.

We are not acting like Europe because the entire intention is to placate the religious right. The reason that the ban is on 19 and under and not 18 was to test banning GAC entirely for adults, which they will at least try in the coming year or next.

If you happen to agree with this decision, I would caution you to be careful. They are not doing this based on scientific evidence. They are cleaning house on members of society they have deemed “undesirable,” based on religious motivations. You are somewhere on that list as well, just by being on this website. Most of the US is somewhere on that list.

I'm just saying that regardless of what the reason is, and I agree with what you're saying about the reasoning here v. in Europe, the U.S. does seem to be moving towards the same restrictions now seen in some European countries.

Only for problems affecting breathing, back pain, etc. (at least for procedures covered by govt, healthcare).

The medical standard of care in Canada requires the individual be an adult and undergo two years of gender affirming care and counselling (which can start as a minor) before undergoing permanent gender affirming/reassignment surgery, all covered by MSP.

As a retired Counsellor, that makes sense to me to delay surgery until adulthood while supporting and preparing the individual for the life altering impact the comes from surgery. (I had a client who was definitely a “Q” - Questioning- in their gender identity, and although not seeking surgery, was subject to mood swings and impulsive behaviour) This two year timeline would also help confirm gender dysphoric disorder was the issue being treated, and not another problem such as bipolar disorder, psychosis- both of which often emerge in late adolescence /early adulthood- or other problem where surgery would not be the appropriate treatment.

Edit to clarify: non-surgical, gender affirming care is available at any age in Canada, although most counselling is not covered under MSP.