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Bread and Circuses

(949 posts)
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 06:36 PM Jul 24

An Open Letter by Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg regarding Gaza

to Jews, on the Gaza famine by Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg
an open letter: we have been commanded

https://www.lifeisasacredtext.com/gazaletter/



Deeply moving and profound.

Note : I am not antisemitic. I have always supported Israel’s right to exist. I wish Peace for all nations in the MidEast

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An Open Letter by Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg regarding Gaza (Original Post) Bread and Circuses Jul 24 OP
Very, very moving BuddhaGirl Jul 24 #1
Eloquent and needed... hlthe2b Jul 24 #2
Indeed. Bread and Circuses Jul 24 #3
This is not unique Mossfern Jul 24 #4
Blessings upon her! She looks so young... electric_blue68 Jul 24 #5
I read this on my phone in the doctor's waiting room and started crying vanessa_ca Jul 24 #6
I stand with you. I, too am moved by this call for service. Bread and Circuses Friday #7
Are you assuming that the majority of Jewish people are indifferent? Mossfern Friday #8
I'm not sure H2O Man Friday #9
It was the quote she used ""Indifference to evil is worse than evil itself ..." Mossfern Friday #10
What people do H2O Man Friday #11
Do you mean the rabbi? Mossfern Friday #12
Okay. H2O Man Friday #14
It does look interesting and will read their articles Mossfern Friday #15
Sorry, you did take it the wrong way SocialDemocrat61 Friday #16
I accused her of nothing Mossfern Friday #17
Yes you did SocialDemocrat61 Friday #18
Actually, you did. But I don't care. vanessa_ca Friday #19
Thanks. But no apology needed. Mossfern did take it wrong vanessa_ca Friday #21
You're welcome SocialDemocrat61 Friday #22
I think it could be for multiple reasons EdmondDantes_ Friday #20
. WhiskeyGrinder Friday #13

hlthe2b

(110,830 posts)
2. Eloquent and needed...
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 07:09 PM
Jul 24

I am saddened that so many feel as though they have to deny being antisemitic to offer a rabbi's moving post seeking peace and humanity. How could that possibly be antisemitic?

I hope we hear more from this rabbi.

Bread and Circuses

(949 posts)
3. Indeed.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 07:18 PM
Jul 24

I have been reported previously and was shocked! If anyone knew my background, they would know why I am eager to see peace for all.

Mossfern

(4,182 posts)
4. This is not unique
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 07:31 PM
Jul 24

My synagogue has been doing this for some time.
Sometimes we don't blast it from the rooftops - publicity is not our aim.
Performing righteous deeds is.

The synagogue is also a sanctuary house of worship - with a warning notice to ICE affixed to the front door.
I'm speaking out now to address some disinformation about the actions and hearts of the American Jewish community.

electric_blue68

(22,700 posts)
5. Blessings upon her! She looks so young...
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 07:47 PM
Jul 24

So a friend of my sister's; his younger sister back in?early '70's wanted to be a rabbi. Well! Girls can't be rabbis!
It's a delight to see a cute, younger woman rabbi!
.
It's like back in the early '80's; I as a former Catholic went to St John the Divine Episcopal Cathedral for my first Blessings of the Animals/St. Francis Day Celebration Mass.
Saw my first woman pastor! Wow!

vanessa_ca

(388 posts)
6. I read this on my phone in the doctor's waiting room and started crying
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 10:32 PM
Jul 24

Thank you for posting this. 1000 recs

"Indifference to evil is worse than evil itself, [and] in a free society, some are guilty, but all are responsible.”

Mossfern

(4,182 posts)
8. Are you assuming that the majority of Jewish people are indifferent?
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 12:38 AM
Friday

That is not the case.
As I said in my previous post, this is hardly unique.

The fact that some are surprised breaks my heart.

H2O Man

(77,561 posts)
9. I'm not sure
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 12:57 AM
Friday

what vanessa_ca wrote that you think suggests the assumption that the majority of Jewish people are indifferent? I am asking respectfully, because I see no hint of that.

Mossfern

(4,182 posts)
10. It was the quote she used ""Indifference to evil is worse than evil itself ..."
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 01:50 AM
Friday

And the fact that the rabbi's remarks moved her to tears.
I am not angry with vanessa_ca at all, but saddened that some are so surprised by those remarks.
I had already posted links to Jewish organizations engaged in aiding Palestinians.

That people are so surprised by this does break my heart and shows that the perception of Jewish people is driven by the actions of the likes of Netanyahu and the right wing in Israel and fundamentalist who are just as bad as fundamentalists of any faith.

I have a habit of making strange and weird analogies, but I will offer one now anyway.
(let me know if you don't get it):

It's like when some people were surprised that Obama was so "well spoken."


H2O Man

(77,561 posts)
11. What people do
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 02:17 AM
Friday

you think were "surprised" he said that? There are no posts on the OP/thread that suggest surprise. I think people are expressing that they are moved by his words, but no hint of surprise.

Mossfern

(4,182 posts)
12. Do you mean the rabbi?
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 08:46 AM
Friday

Maybe I took it the wrong way ,but I find it in the same category as "When did you stop beating your wife?"

I know I'm not communicating this well, but when you're doing the right thing and
someone tells you that they are so thrilled (to tears) that you are doing the right thing, when you were doing the right thing all along, it seems kind of patronizing (maybe I'm using the wrong word) or maybe they believed you weren't doing the right thing and they are so pleased that you finally are.

It was the aspect that someone was moved to tears to learn that you were doing the right thing when you were doing it all along. To me, it insinuates that.

It's complex, and maybe I'm the only one who feels that way.
Actually it was because it was posted as something incredibly wonderful that triggered me.

The rabbi's words and sentiment are not something new to me or any other Jewish person.
It's part of our faith and has always been - therefore the quotes from scripture and Talmud did not seem remarkable to me, or worthy of special praise.

No worries, I'm resigned to people not understanding.

As I said, I'm not angry with any specific person, I'm just disappointed that the message was considered as remarkable.

H2O Man

(77,561 posts)
14. Okay.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 12:18 PM
Friday

That makes sense to me now. Thank you for taking the time to assist me in understanding. I had read the OP/thread at a time when I was thinking about the issues relating to "emotional contagions," and was viewing it in that context. I think that there is benefit to be found in the application of lessons of scripture and Talmud in today's world. And numerous times on DU (and elsewhere) I make reference to the organization Bend the Arc, which I consider to be one of the most important groups in the country today.

Mossfern

(4,182 posts)
15. It does look interesting and will read their articles
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 12:27 PM
Friday

Unfortunately there's no chapter near me, but I'll share the information and maybe that will change.
I'm affiliated with the Reconstructionist movement.

SocialDemocrat61

(5,286 posts)
16. Sorry, you did take it the wrong way
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 12:48 PM
Friday

And you assumed the worst about her. She said:

I read this on my phone in the doctor's waiting room and started crying
which is a nice thing. But you accused her of having a horrible thought
Are you assuming that the majority of Jewish people are indifferent?
when she said absolutely nothing it indicate that. Later you said
It was the aspect that someone was moved to tears to learn that you were doing the right thing when you were doing it all along. To me, it insinuates that.
and nothing she said insinuated that in any was. That’s all on you. You did to her exactly what you falsely accused her of doing. You should delete your comment and apologize to Vanessa.

Mossfern

(4,182 posts)
17. I accused her of nothing
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 12:56 PM
Friday

and I will not remove my opinion and explanation.
You can put me on ignore if my posts bother you, but do not tell me what I should do.

I'm sure vanessa_ca can address my remarks herself if she wishes.
I explained my feeling on the issue and will not take this any further.
You explained your feelings - fine.

SocialDemocrat61

(5,286 posts)
18. Yes you did
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 01:09 PM
Friday

Your response to her post was

Are you assuming that the majority of Jewish people are indifferent?
She said nothing to infer that she was assuming that. Which you explained with
It was the aspect that someone was moved to tears to learn that you were doing the right thing when you were doing it all along. To me, it insinuates that.
which she never insinuated in any way. Those issues are all of your own manufacture.

vanessa_ca

(388 posts)
19. Actually, you did. But I don't care.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 01:13 PM
Friday

I started crying because live with Gaza and the West Bank 24 hours a day and Rabbi Danya so eloquently stated what I carry in my heart all the time.
It was meeting a kindred spirit at an emotionally vulnerable time and being so soothed to read the wise words of yet another blessed teacher, especially after reading the twisted, depraved apologetics we're constantly subjected to even in liberal spaces like this one.
Her plea is timely and moving and should be shared in every single synagogue which we both damn well know isn't being shared and will never be.

vanessa_ca

(388 posts)
21. Thanks. But no apology needed. Mossfern did take it wrong
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 01:17 PM
Friday

but next time I know to keep pecking away on my phone to avoid any misinterpretations. It's all good.

EdmondDantes_

(710 posts)
20. I think it could be for multiple reasons
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 01:13 PM
Friday

I see a particularly moving animal rescue video I tear up, not because I didn't know animal rescue was a thing, but because sometimes something just moves you.

Or sometimes if you yourself are going through a hard time, someone doing good can just inspire you. A person I follow on social media has been going through cancer and she recently talked about how a friend did something really simple and it made her cry.

Or as you thought maybe the person for whatever reason wasn't aware that many Jewish people, even many Israelis, aren't okay with what is happening. It's hard to know what's going on when there's so much going on.

There is a lot of really giving and moving stuff in the Jewish faith, but if someone hasn't been exposed to it, it's still easy to dismiss it, especially if someone's understanding of the Jewish faith is more secular, or just the media about Israel, or the more insular versions of Judaism. An extreme example, but if someone's experience with Judaism is the current war and those periodic news articles when some particularly conservative Jewish guy demands a woman not sit next to him on a plane, they might not have the depth of experience you have.

I remember a situation years ago when at a party someone asked i could believe the host had ham given he was Jewish. I said I wasn't aware the host was Jewish and moved on. Later I asked the host about that and he looked at me like I was an idiot saying "my last name is Cohen, how did you not know?" Granted I don't care about someone's religious or ethnic background, but it speaks to my limited exposure at the time.

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