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Baitball Blogger

(50,607 posts)
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:33 AM Jul 24

You know, when you consider how Republicans used

those Epstein files, dangling them in front of the noses of their supporters as if it was proof of some deep state Dem conspiracy to protect pedo Democrats, and it turns out to be a drag net for Trump…well, hoisted on their own petard is the appropriate response.

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usonian

(19,407 posts)
1. I don't think they have moved an inch from Pizzagate.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:53 AM
Jul 24

I expect that the H.R. recess is to give DOJ more time to scrub, shred and replace evidence with the AI machine.

Covering up a cover up? Hallucinate-Gate?

Mr.Bee

(1,064 posts)
11. It Was All About 'Owning The Libs'
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:20 PM
Jul 24

Aren't you sick of being called 'Liberals'?
I think we should all counter that with-
'No, We Are Reasonable'.
now they can say 'owning the reasonable'
(yes, I've already used that one around town)

Beartracks

(14,020 posts)
4. You mean that Republicans projected their own sins onto Democrats?!
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 10:59 AM
Jul 24

Standard Republican M.O. Sadly. Predictably.

Here's hoping that a whole lot more Americans wake up to the fact that if Trump and Republicans were lying about themselves all these years, that they were also lying about Democrats, too.

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doc03

(38,187 posts)
5. I saw an Ohio Rep. (D) didn't catch the name. A reporter ask him what he had to say about the Republican
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:02 AM
Jul 24

claim Democrats sat on the Epstein files four years. He went on a several minute speech about everything else but what the question was.
That is why people hate politicians I don't care what party they are in. If they don't like the question they try to dazzel you with bullshit.

Baitball Blogger

(50,607 posts)
6. At this point, any Dem who is on the list should do
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:07 AM
Jul 24

Us all a favor and self-deport. I don’t know if there is any truth to the both-siderism on the list, but to think there was a hesitation in the process because there might have been one just turns my stomach.

Wounded Bear

(62,602 posts)
7. There probably are a small number of Dems on the "lists" but I'm sure there are many more Repubs...nt
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:14 AM
Jul 24

Johnny2X2X

(23,128 posts)
10. This cannot be overstated
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:02 PM
Jul 24

A portion of Trump's voters were obsessed with the Epstein files. When Biondi announced she had them on her desk ready to release they were giddy in anticipation. To them, this was the culmination of years of conspiracy theories that were finally going to be exposed to the world.

And Q-Anon and Q-Anon adjacent online personalities had already prepped them for what was going to be in it. They already had a list of names they found online and knew exactly what crimes that list committed. They were 100% certain Hillary, Obama, Bill, Nancy, Chuck and hundreds of other prominent Dems were in the report detailing their crimes with children. They were 100% certain half of Hollywood would be implicated. And they had been told the only references to Trump would be ones of his heroism in setting Epstein up and breaking up the whole global ring single handedly.

But don't expect them to have the obvious epiphany you're thinking, Trump will pivot to the next lie about all of it and 90% of them will buy it, even if it means Maxwell gets let out.

Wiz Imp

(6,307 posts)
12. I'll probably get blasted for this, but it needs to be said.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:43 PM
Jul 24

Many people are setting themselves up to be extremely disappointed if/when the Epstein files are ever released. Keep in mind that Trump had absolutely nothing to do with the "sweetheart deal" that Acosta agreed to with Epstein. That was under the Justice Department of George W. Bush.

MAGAs are upset because they had convinced themselves that there was a treasure trove of information in the files implicating powerful Democrats. Of course, that was stoked by Trump and others on the right. Thus, it is ironic now that many on the left have similarly convinced themselves that there is a treasure trove of of information implicating Trump. That despite there being no public proof of exactly what the Government is in possession of. There so far is no public evidence proving Trump guilty of any wrongdoing against under age girls. To the contrary, there are numerous public statements and court testimony from Epstein victims that they never witnessed any wrongdoing by Trump. I seriously doubt that the files contain any evidence of many of the egregious things many people have convinced themselves of.

I'm not saying there is no information implicating Trump in the files. I DO suspect there is very likely "some" incriminating evidence against Trump in the files but nobody knows for sure. I'm just saying people are setting themselves up to be disappointed if their expectations aren't met, which inevitably will lead to many more conspiracy theories about Trump.

doc03

(38,187 posts)
13. I agree just because there are pictures of the
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 03:36 PM
Jul 24

two together doesn't mean he is guilty of anything. Like they say be careful what you ask for. By October when
the House comes back any evidence against Trump will never see the light of day. Epstein my work in our favor for a while
but if there is any even evidence at all of a Democrat being involved it will not disappear.

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