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Aviation Pro

(14,586 posts)
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:11 AM Thursday

Got a theory why the Epstein files are resonating so much

With the fucking MAGAts and why the fucking pedophile is feeling the heat.

A lot of them, not all of them, were victims of sexual abuse at the hands of older men.

And yes that includes girls and boys.

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Got a theory why the Epstein files are resonating so much (Original Post) Aviation Pro Thursday OP
Because it was implied that it was dems Cosmocat Thursday #1
This is true NJCher Thursday #3
That is true for sure Cosmocat Thursday #33
If there were pedophiles who happened to be Dems Aviation Pro Thursday #4
There's been a lot of abuse in plain sight in their lives bucolic_frolic Thursday #2
You have to be brutally groomed to lose your humanity... ananda Thursday #6
Whether you're rich or poor, 'brutally groomed' applies. nt babylonsister Thursday #38
There must be a myriad of things that happened to these people in their youth to cheer on... Ol Janx Spirit Thursday #5
It absolutely is prevalent! Do a little research on incest. The numbers are shocking. littlemissmartypants Thursday #13
And of course, if she gets pregnant, it's "God's will"that she has the baby Walleye Thursday #26
And it'll be raised as a little sister or brother... littlemissmartypants Thursday #27
My grandfather was 20 years younger than his oldest sister Walleye Thursday #30
Interesting. ... littlemissmartypants Thursday #32
Oh, I know it could've been completely straightforward. But it's kind of a mystery. Walleye Thursday #37
I do love a mystery, Walleye. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Thursday #40
Seeing that in those days the mom might have karynnj Thursday #35
my children druidity33 Friday #42
This is it misanthrope Thursday #41
MAGAs/GOP don't care at all about children being raped. Irish_Dem Thursday #7
Murdoch is taking down his creation. rubbersole Thursday #18
Yes the monster they created has turned on them. Irish_Dem Thursday #31
I don't think edhopper Thursday #8
But I can believe a third have. And his rabid base is about there. Scrivener7 Thursday #9
So 90% of abuse vistims edhopper Thursday #29
As a young person who experienced potential SA I say quit ignoring the problem there is more abuse than you know Stargazer99 Thursday #14
I have no doubt there is a lot of it edhopper Thursday #28
Every woman I know, including myself, has been SA in varying degrees in her lifetime. Coventina Thursday #36
Numerous studies edhopper Thursday #39
I agree. Scrivener7 Thursday #10
It took me well into my forties to even begin JMCKUSICK Thursday #11
Yeah, sexual abuse of children is rampant Farmer-Rick Thursday #12
Musk. SSJVegeta Thursday #15
There was a discount store my Mother used to take me to and the owner was always friendly to me kimbutgar Thursday #16
I was sexually abused by my grandmother, while she gave my two cousins and myself a bath. It hurt. I thought it was debm55 Thursday #20
I'm sorry 😞 MustLoveBeagles Thursday #25
Hear, hear ZDU Thursday #17
It's a pretty widely recognized hypothesis in psychology that abusers were abused. Sogo Thursday #19
The latest in a series of things that aren't going well. Adding up, for the time being. We'll see how the WH deals wiggs Thursday #21
I do want to thank Elon nowforever Thursday #22
There could be truth to that, of course, but I have a different theory. hamsterjill Thursday #23
Why DOJ's withholding of the Epstein files so upsets Trump's base- Roughly a third of MAGA Republicans qualify as QAnon LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #24
I think many are sick of him, but won't admit their mistake tinrobot Thursday #34

Aviation Pro

(14,586 posts)
4. If there were pedophiles who happened to be Dems
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:25 AM
Thursday

Then the fucking pedophile would have ordered the release of the material long ago.

I’m getting the feeling that prominent Democratic politicians are not on the list at all, but donors may be a different story.

bucolic_frolic

(51,623 posts)
2. There's been a lot of abuse in plain sight in their lives
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:17 AM
Thursday

or they would not be so dysfunctional in the way they think and act. They are not strong, boundaried people.

ananda

(32,659 posts)
6. You have to be brutally groomed to lose your humanity...
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:56 AM
Thursday

the way Trump and practically all Republicans have lost theirs.

Sex abuse has definitely been part of it to some extent.

Ol Janx Spirit

(353 posts)
5. There must be a myriad of things that happened to these people in their youth to cheer on...
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:53 AM
Thursday

...things like immigrants being eaten by alligators. Sexual abuse is probably high on the list--especially for those pushing the Epstein conspiracy.

Sadly, sexual abuse in many different forms is probably way more prevalent than we would like to believe. People do not want to talk about it, so it remains a hidden epidemic that expresses itself in society in any number of unhealthy ways.

Walleye

(41,549 posts)
30. My grandfather was 20 years younger than his oldest sister
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 01:35 PM
Thursday

Recently, I started wondering if she was really his mother. He was especially close to her. I’ve been told. Of course this is all before my time.

littlemissmartypants

(28,635 posts)
32. Interesting. ...
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 03:11 PM
Thursday

That would also have been prior to prevalent and easily accepted birth control for women. So, it could be he was a late in life baby. It's possible to think menopause is over then to be served with a surprise bundle.

karynnj

(60,432 posts)
35. Seeing that in those days the mom might have
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 07:37 PM
Thursday

had her first child at 19 or 20. It is entirely possible to have a later child at 40.

druidity33

(6,795 posts)
42. my children
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 06:15 AM
Friday

are 18 years apart. Wife had the first one when she was 19...

so yeah, you're absolutely correct.



misanthrope

(8,963 posts)
41. This is it
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:22 PM
Thursday
Sadly, sexual abuse in many different forms is probably way more prevalent than we would like to believe. People do not want to talk about it, so it remains a hidden epidemic that expresses itself in society in any number of unhealthy ways.


That is what I believe.

Irish_Dem

(72,738 posts)
7. MAGAs/GOP don't care at all about children being raped.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:57 AM
Thursday

MAGAs who have been SA as kids would be inclined to keep everything a big secret
and let Trump get away with it.

The rest of the GOP would rape and kill as many kids
as it takes to get what they want. They are psychopaths.

The reality is that the billionaires and powers that be are tired of Trump.
They want his power taken away.

rubbersole

(10,170 posts)
18. Murdoch is taking down his creation.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:31 AM
Thursday

News Corp. should be next. There's a long list after that.

Stargazer99

(3,247 posts)
14. As a young person who experienced potential SA I say quit ignoring the problem there is more abuse than you know
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 10:50 AM
Thursday

as this type of abuse is not talked about due to shame

edhopper

(36,409 posts)
28. I have no doubt there is a lot of it
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:33 PM
Thursday

just not half the population.

Actually more than half since not all who were victims of this voted for Drumpf. So it's all MAGA voters, plus the Harris voters who were victims.

Those numbers aren't supportable.

Coventina

(28,479 posts)
36. Every woman I know, including myself, has been SA in varying degrees in her lifetime.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 07:42 PM
Thursday

For women, the percentage is 80-90%, unless my life is an anomaly. But I don't think it is.

edhopper

(36,409 posts)
39. Numerous studies
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:47 PM
Thursday

Put it at 20% to 25:%.
Which is alarming and way too high, but not 80 to 90

JMCKUSICK

(3,284 posts)
11. It took me well into my forties to even begin
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 10:20 AM
Thursday

To acknowledge that I have been sexually abused. What makes it so difficult is that I remember the acts, even the places, but most of what I felt during these events is still buried in a concrete cask.
I'm guessing there are millions who are experiencing the Epstein stuff in an emotionally charged way, and God forbid more of the specifics come out where a lot of us will recognize that this was me in some capacity too.

Farmer-Rick

(11,887 posts)
12. Yeah, sexual abuse of children is rampant
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 10:37 AM
Thursday

It's been institutionalized in many organizations. Such as the Catholic Church, most all religions, (wasn't one of Muhammad's wives 9 years old?) children sports activities and schools. It's been commonly accepted and allowed to flourish.

So, not surprised many people were victims and have an emotional reaction of disgust and hate about it.

kimbutgar

(25,662 posts)
16. There was a discount store my Mother used to take me to and the owner was always friendly to me
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:11 AM
Thursday

And once I was I the toy section and he came up and grabbed me by my pu$$y. I was uncomfortable but didn’t tell my Mom. The next time we went I told her I didn’t want to go and after a while of questioning I admitted what happened. I will never forget the look on her face. We ended up going there and my Mother made a big scene in the store and told him off in front of his wife and daughter and we left. She told my Dad at dinner that night and he wanted to go there right away but the store was closed. on the weekend he went and got inthe guys face also. It turns out he had done it to several little girls and it had been reported got the police. This was in the late 60’s. We never went there again.

debm55

(48,797 posts)
20. I was sexually abused by my grandmother, while she gave my two cousins and myself a bath. It hurt. I thought it was
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:49 AM
Thursday

Last edited Thu Jul 24, 2025, 04:19 PM - Edit history (1)

wrong. Took me a long time to tell my Mother. She brushed it off. I cried. Grandmother is long dead. But I still bear the pain in my heart. I was around 5 to six

ZDU

(613 posts)
17. Hear, hear
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:20 AM
Thursday

It's a life of fucking hell & shame when no one, no adult, believes you... and worse yet when you, the child, believe the assault and abuse was all your fault

wiggs

(8,321 posts)
21. The latest in a series of things that aren't going well. Adding up, for the time being. We'll see how the WH deals
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:51 AM
Thursday

with all the losses.

nowforever

(574 posts)
22. I do want to thank Elon
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:02 PM
Thursday

Thank you for your rage moment that had you speak a truth we all have known

hamsterjill

(16,152 posts)
23. There could be truth to that, of course, but I have a different theory.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:13 PM
Thursday

The Trumpers always accuse everyone else of what they are guilty of. In Trump's case, he's accusing anyone he can think of just to get the attention off of him. Asshole.

My favorite QAnon idiot posted on Facebook yesterday that Virginia Giuffre had told investigators that Barack Obama was on Epstein Island frequently and that *he* wanted thirteen year old boys. Obviously, not true. Reported her on Facebook for all the good that will do. Blatant lies shouldn't be allowed to stand, but we are past that point. But you see where this is going.

Anyway, Trumpers and MAGA and all of the religious cultists are hung up sexually and get their kicks off of deviant behavior. That's why they accuse everyone else of doing it.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,964 posts)
24. Why DOJ's withholding of the Epstein files so upsets Trump's base- Roughly a third of MAGA Republicans qualify as QAnon
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 12:18 PM
Thursday

A good percentage of trump supporters are QAnon idiots and Epstein is a big deal to these nutcases.



A lot of you may be mystified as to why DOJ’s withholding of the Epstein files so upsets Trump’s base.

It’s very simple.

👉 Roughly a third of MAGA Republicans qualify as QAnon believers.

👉 QAnon teaches that government, media, and financial elites are Satanists who sex-traffic children.



tinrobot

(11,659 posts)
34. I think many are sick of him, but won't admit their mistake
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 06:43 PM
Thursday

Epstein is a good enough reason to dump Trump. They don't have to admit fault, and can blame him instead.

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