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tulipsandroses

(7,770 posts)
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:03 PM Jul 23

Doctor's note no longer excuse for absences at TN school district.

What a brilliant idea. Force sick kids to come to school or risk being referred to court. Not to mention getting other kids sick.


NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WSMV) - A local school district said doctor’s notes will no longer excuse your child’s absence.
The Lawrence County School System said the policy is aimed at improving the district’s attendance rate, but many parents are against it.
Rebecca Sanchez said her 10-year-old daughter got sick a lot last year.
“Between the strep throat and the flu, I can say she missed about 17 days,” Sanchez said.
If her daughter is absent for even half of that time this coming school year, it will now result in a referral to Lawrence County Juvenile Court for truancy. “I have never been for or against homeschool, but because of this new policy, it has definitely changed my mind,” Sanchez said.
The policy states that after three absences, schools will start intervention. If the student keeps missing school, eight or more days, there will be a juvenile court referral.

“You can fail the grade,” Director of Schools Michael Adkins said during the district’s June school board meeting. “You can fail the course. You are going to be petitioned to court. You are not going to participate in graduation, get your driver’s license or permit.”
Adkins also said during the meeting, “We are going to take control of the attendance of our students. You can bring all the doctor’s notes you want, but it is still unexcused.”

While there will be exemptions for verified chronic illnesses and several other things, Adkins and other district officials said during June’s meeting that students need to learn reliability and work ethic.
“If you have the sniffles, that is fine,” Adkins said during the meeting. “You are going to have them when you go to work one day. We have all gone to work sick and hurt and beat up.” ( This is such an asinine thing to say. Hey dumbass. Going to work sick, puts other workers at risk - thus instead of 1 person calling out sick, now you've got 2 or 3 calling out sick. )
The district sent a letter last week to local medical providers asking them to “emphasize the importance of regular school attendance while treating school-aged patients.” The letter went on to say that “medical notes excusing students for two or more days can unintentionally imply the students should remain home even after their health improves.”
If a child goes to school sick and the school nurse sends that child home, Adkins said that will be marked as tardy. (Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. So even if the kid goes to school, spikes a fever from an ear infection, and has to be sent home, its still marked as tardy)


https://www.wsmv.com/2025/07/22/doctors-note-no-longer-excuse-absences-tn-school-district/
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Doctor's note no longer excuse for absences at TN school district. (Original Post) tulipsandroses Jul 23 OP
What About Online Instruction? MrWowWow Jul 23 #1
Probably outlawing both that and homeschooling. niyad Jul 23 #19
Would they accept a death certificate? niyad Jul 23 #2
No. Those are signed by doctors. carpetbagger Jul 23 #12
Of course. .How silly of me. niyad Jul 23 #18
Someone ought to read the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) Ms. Toad Jul 23 #3
Looks like the author should have actually read the policy MichMan Jul 24 #29
Agreed. Ms. Toad Jul 24 #34
The next pandemic is coming, and these fools are steering right into it. Intractable Jul 23 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 23 #5
BINGO!!! niyad Jul 23 #17
Well we do need to replace the undocumented workers Horse with no Name Jul 23 #6
Not sure how one gets dumber than this policy n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 23 #7
Oh, I am sure they can come up with something. niyad Jul 23 #16
Well at least they are honest KentuckyWoman Jul 23 #8
Oh, this will go well. Xavier Breath Jul 23 #9
The insane logic is... well ... insane pat_k Jul 23 #10
As one woman said years ago, "Give me patience, because if you give me strength, niyad Jul 23 #14
I love that. Aristus Jul 24 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 23 #11
May all involved receive everything they deserve. niyad Jul 23 #13
This will slow down the court system and prevent them from dealing with actual abuse Renew Deal Jul 23 #15
A perfect example of why school board elections are important, with niyad Jul 23 #20
Just giving kids more reasons The Madcap Jul 23 #21
I would love to hear TN native Trae Crowder (Liberal Redneck) on this. niyad Jul 24 #22
Coupled with low/no vaccination rates HAB911 Jul 24 #23
They are all about "parental control" until they see a power opportunity to squash parents. Bullies & control freaks. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 24 #24
When I was a kid I had a horrible case of chickenpox DenaliDemocrat Jul 24 #25
Some school administrators suffer from a god complex. Jokerman Jul 24 #26
The GOP wants herd immunity, only the strong will survive. Irish_Dem Jul 24 #27
Lawrence County voted for Republicans over Democrats 84% to 15% in 2024. Tennessee is also poised to... Ol Janx Spirit Jul 24 #28
They should do a sequel to the movie 'Idiocracy' here in Tennessee.... spanone Jul 24 #30
Kid gets sick and gets a record? Johnny2X2X Jul 24 #31
What about a note from a pastor? Raven123 Jul 24 #32
If they force a kid to sit in class while suffering Karma13612 Jul 24 #33
Here is a link to the actual policy - it isn't as described in the article. Ms. Toad Jul 24 #35
And they will enforce the written, and apparently unread, "policy" however niyad Jul 24 #38
If they do, they will lose in court the first time their conduct is tested. Ms. Toad Jul 24 #42
I wish I shared your confidence in our judicial system these days. niyad Jul 24 #43
This is a pretty obvious ploy to prepare kids for the workplace. Aristus Jul 24 #37
If the nurse sends them home, they're marked as "tardy"??? muriel_volestrangler Jul 24 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 24 #40
And there we have it. niyad Jul 24 #44
We have all gone to work sick and hurt and beat up." yardwork Jul 24 #41
I have gone to work sick, and I have gone to work black and blue, niyad Jul 24 #45

Ms. Toad

(37,395 posts)
3. Someone ought to read the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act)
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:20 PM
Jul 23

Last edited Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:57 PM - Edit history (1)

and the IDEA (Individuals with Disabilities Act), and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act.

There were periods when my daughter was hospitalized for a week+, or needed to be absent without hospitalization because of one or the other of her two chronic, life-threatening illnesses.

Her ability to be present in school is a medical decision, which the school board is not competent to assess - nor do they have any right to question her or refer her for truancy. And they are not allowed to punish her (mark her absence as unexcused).

Aside from individuals with disabilities, I had a friend in high school with meningitis - would they really have wanted him to attend school in his contagious state? Measles - just for exposure, the recommended quarantine is 21 days from exposure for unvaccinated individuals? Chicken Pox - the last time I checked quarantine was about 10 days.

If they put all their brain cells together, they would still be dangerous.

ETA: The actual policy (here) is not nearly as bad as the administrators quoted in the article suggest.

I'm leaving my initial reaction to emphasize the need to not only read the article (which I did), but also follow supporting links.

It isn't just that doctor's notes don't excuse an absence - nothing excuses an absence. Absences are absences, without being categorized as excused or unexcused.

If there is a diagnosed medical issue, or an ongoing chronic issue, special arrangements will be made and the truancy policies don't apply.

Nothing in the rules says what the administrator was quoted as saying - that doctor's notes won't get you an excused absence.

All students who are absent are permitted to make up the work so they are not failed simply because of absence if they are otherwise passing.

All the truancy interventions apply only if there has not been an attendance plan arranged with the principal of the school (for diagnosed medical conditions or chronic illnesses)

Ms. Toad

(37,395 posts)
34. Agreed.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:00 AM
Jul 24

I expect some variation between interpretation and policy, but the amount of variation between the actual policy and the comments by the folks who theoretically wrote it (or will be implementing it) is far more than usual.

Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Horse with no Name

(34,179 posts)
6. Well we do need to replace the undocumented workers
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:24 PM
Jul 23

That are being snatched off the street. I expect that there will be a huge increase in minor “crime” offenses—even if we have to create new “crimes”

KentuckyWoman

(7,167 posts)
8. Well at least they are honest
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:26 PM
Jul 23

They want to punish 5 yr olds for being human so by the time they are 12 they know how to suffer for low wages. Nothing must get in the way of profit.

Speaking of grooming.....

pat_k

(11,508 posts)
10. The insane logic is... well ... insane
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:28 PM
Jul 23

Attendence down? Just mandate attendence. That will do it.

It's like abortion. Want to reduce the number of abortions? Just ban them. Don't actually think through consequences, like jailing desperate women and their doctors (things that a vast majority of "ban abortion" folk actually think would be bad).

I'm surprised they didn't just ban absences. They think simply banning abortion will end abortion, why not ban absences to end absences?

Give me strength.

niyad

(125,609 posts)
14. As one woman said years ago, "Give me patience, because if you give me strength,
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:38 PM
Jul 23

I would kill somebody."

Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

niyad

(125,609 posts)
13. May all involved receive everything they deserve.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:35 PM
Jul 23

I had been hoping this was The Onion. Appallingly, it is not.

Renew Deal

(84,320 posts)
15. This will slow down the court system and prevent them from dealing with actual abuse
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 10:39 PM
Jul 23

And preventing them from dealing with actual abuse may be Michael Adkins. Someone should check in on his kids. The courts will just gavel these cases closed as a waste of time. I wonder if it will be used as an excuse to deport people.

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,324 posts)
24. They are all about "parental control" until they see a power opportunity to squash parents. Bullies & control freaks. nt
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 07:21 AM
Jul 24

DenaliDemocrat

(1,666 posts)
25. When I was a kid I had a horrible case of chickenpox
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 08:24 AM
Jul 24

And missed a solid two weeks of school. I had them in my ears, my throat, - everywhere.

Add to that the normal child sickness and I wound up missing like 21 days that year. It was more than allowed but back then people were not dumbasses and every one understood. The teachers helped me make up the work and life went on. What happened to the world? It seems like the loonies have taken over everything

Jokerman

(3,547 posts)
26. Some school administrators suffer from a god complex.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 08:28 AM
Jul 24

Its no surprise that they think they know better than the doctors.

Irish_Dem

(72,738 posts)
27. The GOP wants herd immunity, only the strong will survive.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 08:29 AM
Jul 24

It is the GOP eugenics program.

Of course the rich will get all the healthcare and protection they want.

Ol Janx Spirit

(353 posts)
28. Lawrence County voted for Republicans over Democrats 84% to 15% in 2024. Tennessee is also poised to...
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:05 AM
Jul 24

...drop the foreign language requirement in schools.

We are such a long way from where Al Gore could not only get elected in Tennessee but become vice president of the U.S.

Combine things like what Lawrence County is doing here, a general hostility to vaccines among many, dropping foreign language requirements, and funneling public money into private (read Christian) schools, and the current ranking of 32nd in education looks like a high-water mark.

But if you are a manufacturer looking for a large supply of low-wage uneducated workers with no hope of ever doing any better then I guess Tennessee is attractive.

I thought we were better than this, but I am proven more wrong every day. It feels like a literal death-spiral.

spanone

(139,729 posts)
30. They should do a sequel to the movie 'Idiocracy' here in Tennessee....
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:16 AM
Jul 24

Call it a documentary.

Johnny2X2X

(23,110 posts)
31. Kid gets sick and gets a record?
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:18 AM
Jul 24

"If the student keeps missing school, eight or more days, there will be a juvenile court referral."

And you don't have to guess that this is going to applied totally differently in minority districts vs white districts. They'll follow the Alabama model where young black children end up in juvenile detention centers for things like chewing gum in class, dress code violations, talking out of turn, and being late to school.

My little sister had migraine headaches throughout her teen years and missed a ton of school. Graduated with a 4.0 from a very good private high school and went to college and got her bachelors and masters. But she missed a ton of time, like 15-25 days a year or more.

This is a total joke they're doing this.

Karma13612

(4,788 posts)
33. If they force a kid to sit in class while suffering
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:56 AM
Jul 24

from diarrhea caused by C. Diff, they might change their minds on this draconian 🐂 💩.

And within a couple days, more kids will be in the same deep 💩

Seriously. The GOP is trying to get nominated for being the most cruel stupid party in America.

Ms. Toad

(37,395 posts)
35. Here is a link to the actual policy - it isn't as described in the article.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:23 AM
Jul 24
Here is a link to the actual policy.

It bears little resemblance to what was discussed in the meeting, and is actually fairly reasonable.

I reacted to the meeting here, and then edited adding a correction after I clicked through to the policy. Since it appears most are also reacting to the meeting, rather than reading the actual policy (or my correction to my original post), I decided it was worth another post.

niyad

(125,609 posts)
38. And they will enforce the written, and apparently unread, "policy" however
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 01:02 PM
Jul 24

it pleases them.

Ms. Toad

(37,395 posts)
42. If they do, they will lose in court the first time their conduct is tested.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 04:01 PM
Jul 24

But the real point is that the journalists didn't do their jobs, and most people aren't bothering to read past the fake news article.

Aristus

(70,496 posts)
37. This is a pretty obvious ploy to prepare kids for the workplace.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 11:29 AM
Jul 24

Where they will be required to sacrifice the better part of their lives drudging away for our corporate masters. Sick or not, every moment not spent with one's nose to the grindstone is a moment taken away from generating profits for the idle rich. Best to get kids accustomed to frittering their lives away, sick, in pain, all motivation gone, all hope lost, while they're still in school.

It's things like this that led to the invention of the guillotine...

muriel_volestrangler

(104,225 posts)
39. If the nurse sends them home, they're marked as "tardy"???
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 01:07 PM
Jul 24

Whoever wrote that policy should be fired. That's the dumbest thing I've heard in education in years.

Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

niyad

(125,609 posts)
45. I have gone to work sick, and I have gone to work black and blue,
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 04:24 PM
Jul 24

with eyes like a reverse raccoon, beaten up only in the sense that the multiple blood draws that morning left me looking like I went several rounds with Ali. But I was an adult, not a child being threatened with juvenile court.

What an incredibly stupid, clueless, tone deaf thing for that asshole to say. If there are children at home, I would say a visit from CPS is in order.

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