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BeyondGeography

(40,680 posts)
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 07:13 PM Jul 23

Josh Marshall: People should be mounting primary campaigns against pretty much every Democrat who is in a safe seat

So here are my current thoughts on how Democrats — voters and elected officials — can or should try to deepen opposition to Trump and translate that into legislative seat gains.

The first is obvious. To the extent Democrats are weakened by their reputation for not effectively fighting Trump, they should be taking every opportunity to do that now. Yes, this is kind of obvious. But give me a moment and I’ll connect it to a point I think makes the meaning more clear. They should take every opportunity to fight and draw attention to unpopular things. They shouldn’t be worried about the downsides of opposing a president who now routinely has 55% of the population in opposition him.

Second, the campaign message is obvious and is the one every successful midterm opposition makes. Put a check on Trump’s illegal, out-of-control, violent, stupid policies. There’s no check on him. Put a check on him. This is the ultimate “don’t overcomplicate it.” People are really, really opposed to the stuff Trump is doing now. Say you’ll rein him in. The catch, though, is that to make that credible you really need to show that you’re maxing out the limited power congressional Democrats currently have. So fighting harder and more effectively today doesn’t just address damage to the Democratic brand — it’s essential to underpin the best campaign strategy and message.

Third, people should be mounting primary campaigns against pretty much every Democrat who is in a safe seat. The greatest attention is on a few right-leaning Dems who’ve managed to win in Trump districts. That’s stupid. Democrats need those seats. But in safe seats, run primaries. I’m not saying everyone needs to go, but everyone needs to be put to some test. To deal with the Trump crisis you need caucuses made up only of wartime consiglieres. So make way for one or become one. I remain convinced this is not mainly about ideology, it’s about who’s willing to fight and who isn’t. That’s my prescription.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/how-is-it-going-for-the-democrats

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Passages

(3,645 posts)
1. For a healthy democracy and for those up for the fight.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 07:22 PM
Jul 23

It's different out there, and to be fair, not necessarily suited for everyone.

For some, it might be a time to reflect, perhaps pass it on to someone else.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
2. Not smart at all. You must've forgotten that the party in power loses multiple seats...
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 07:31 PM
Jul 23

in the midterm elections. Unseating incumbent Dems who have proven they cant kick rethug ass in the general election for an unproven rookie...not smart at all.

The rethugs have a very thin majority and as unpopular as trump and his deportations and tariffs are, we just have to bide our time, no unwise incumpent challenges, and we unseat Johnson, win the House majority and stifle trump's agenda for the rest of his sorry term.

Period.

TheProle

(3,737 posts)
3. A truly safe Democratic district is a perfect proving ground
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 07:35 PM
Jul 23

For philosophical recalibration and an opportunity for an infusion of fresh ideas and talent.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,853 posts)
5. You can also have quiet money coming in to defeat a good congressperson
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 07:42 PM
Jul 23

We cannot afford to lose fighters . This may look good for a wrestling match but I would hate to lose Jasmine, Al Green, Alexandria and a lot of other good people because some folks want drama.

B.See

(6,810 posts)
4. Right. Let's focus our attention on
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 07:39 PM
Jul 23

threatening/campaigning against "safe" Democrats.

(insert sarcasm thingy here)

Arazi

(8,394 posts)
7. Newsflash Josh! David Hogg proposed this and is now persona non grata
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 07:51 AM
Jul 24

Can’t have any new fresh ideas or you’re not a “good” Dem! Besides, Josh has never run for office or anything so he’s irrelevant!

Doesn’t matter TPM is a Democratic supporting media outlet. In fact, time to be mad that you have a Dem supportive organization that you make money with!

Chuck him outta here amiright?!11?!

🙄

Arazi

(8,394 posts)
9. People want fighters. This is only targeted at safe blue seats
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 08:43 AM
Jul 24

How is that designed to lose?

People are hungry for Dems that are going to the mat and recent fundraising demonstrates that.

"Among the 10 incumbent Democrats who raised the most from individual donors this year, six are members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus"

"Donations from individuals—as opposed to those from political-action committees—made up 99% of Ocasio-Cortez’s fundraising this year. That is the highest proportion of any House incumbent running in 2026."

"Mamdani is a study in the power of small-dollar donations. While his average contribution has been the smallest of any of the mayoral candidates, according to New York City Campaign Finance Board data, he has still managed to be competitive in fundraising because he has had so many more donors"




"The .4 million [AOC] has collected makes her the biggest House fundraiser this year, nearly doubling the total of the chamber’s most powerful member, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R., La.)."

George Pearkes (@peark.es) 2025-07-24T12:29:59.368Z

carpetbagger

(5,377 posts)
10. He did that from within the DNC
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 08:52 AM
Jul 24

That's not the job of the DNC. That's the opposite of their job, which is to support party infrastructure and nominees. Hogg just saw it as a big microphone and lacked the experience to understand how organizations work.

And I'm not dissing reformers and progressives. Howard Dean was the best DNC Chair since Robert Strauss, and the insider-establishment chairs repeatedly fail the party.

Arazi

(8,394 posts)
11. And he's continued to propose this outside the DNC. Still outcast
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:19 AM
Jul 24
Any fresh new ideas being proposed for Dems are being shot down including here.

In some cases, those people are being excoriated for all sorts of bullshit reasons in an attempt to take them down.

Can’t wait to hear about a virtual Dem elder statesman like Josh Marshall and TPM getting similarly thrown under the bus.

Fact remains active fighting progressives (like AOC) are getting showered with small donor cash because a lot of people want fighters. Dem establishment types ignore that at our peril

carpetbagger

(5,377 posts)
12. I do agree with you.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 02:03 PM
Jul 24

When I talk about Hogg doing a poor job and choosing a poor job for his agenda, it's a one-off. I'm excited by the primary progressive challenges. Unfortunately, I think it'll be a long time for this to happen.

dsc

(53,166 posts)
13. In 2022 we lost the NC Supreme court for the forseeable future
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 03:19 PM
Jul 24

due to not spending any money on it. That alone cost us the US House in 2024. But yes let's set piles of money on fire in primaries.

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