Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPresident Trump Frees Ax Murderer Who Slit Throats
This administration isnt vetting any of those coming or going! Hell probably be given a job with ICE.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-prisoner-swap-2673709881/
21 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

President Trump Frees Ax Murderer Who Slit Throats (Original Post)
surfered
Jul 23
OP
Served in US military and got US citizenship, born in Venezuela, convicted there of triple murder in Spain in 2016
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 23
#2
He was born in Venezuela, came to the US at some point, got US citizenship
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 23
#19
He axed one man in the head, slashed a woman's throat, and beat another woman to death
dalton99a
Jul 23
#12
This horrifying. These incompetent a**holes are causing so much harm in so many ways.
still-prayin4rain
Jul 23
#13
Aviation Pro
(14,839 posts)1. What I see are a lot of Under Armor t-shirts
That won't go over well.
drray23
(8,436 posts)15. Is that a brand favored by right winger militias ?
.
muriel_volestrangler
(104,864 posts)2. Served in US military and got US citizenship, born in Venezuela, convicted there of triple murder in Spain in 2016
The triple homicide perpetrated by Ortiz took place in 2016 in a law office in Usera, a working-class district in the south of the Spanish capital. None of the three victims were who he was actually going after that day. His target was Víctor Salas, a lawyer who was in a relationship with his ex-wife who he had threatened to kill. That day, however, he murdered two female employees of the office and a client whom he mistook for Salas. Eight years later he was sentenced to 30 years in prison in Venezuela, his home country, for the crime. But a little over a year later, Ortiz has regained his freedom thanks to a prisoner exchange between the United States and Venezuela. A new plot twist in a never-ending story.
His conviction did not come about easily. After committing the murders, Ortiz returned to Germany, where he lived at the time. He created a whole framework with his cell phone, photos, and tickets from commercial establishments to hide his crime, but, despite all his precautions, the Spanish National Police gathered the necessary evidence to prove that the hand that had executed those three people was Ortizs.
When cornered, the ex-military officer escaped to Latin America and ended up in his native Venezuela, where he was arrested. After several comings and goings, the trial against him was set in motion in the South American country, although it was delayed four times until the final verdict was reached: guilty.
...
In an interview granted to a German media outlet, Ortizs ex-wife has assured that the competent authorities are currently evaluating the inclusion of this person in the police information system, in order to ensure that he cannot enter the Schengen area, and in particular, Germany. She added: There is a well-founded suspicion that the mans lawyer in Venezuela intentionally provided false information by not presenting him as a convicted murderer, but as a political prisoner or even a U.S. spy, with the aim of including him in the prisoner exchange.
https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-07-22/perpetrator-of-triple-homicide-in-madrid-included-in-group-of-political-prisoners-repatriated-by-us-from-venezuela.html
His conviction did not come about easily. After committing the murders, Ortiz returned to Germany, where he lived at the time. He created a whole framework with his cell phone, photos, and tickets from commercial establishments to hide his crime, but, despite all his precautions, the Spanish National Police gathered the necessary evidence to prove that the hand that had executed those three people was Ortizs.
When cornered, the ex-military officer escaped to Latin America and ended up in his native Venezuela, where he was arrested. After several comings and goings, the trial against him was set in motion in the South American country, although it was delayed four times until the final verdict was reached: guilty.
...
In an interview granted to a German media outlet, Ortizs ex-wife has assured that the competent authorities are currently evaluating the inclusion of this person in the police information system, in order to ensure that he cannot enter the Schengen area, and in particular, Germany. She added: There is a well-founded suspicion that the mans lawyer in Venezuela intentionally provided false information by not presenting him as a convicted murderer, but as a political prisoner or even a U.S. spy, with the aim of including him in the prisoner exchange.
https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-07-22/perpetrator-of-triple-homicide-in-madrid-included-in-group-of-political-prisoners-repatriated-by-us-from-venezuela.html
Ironically, former Spanish PM José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero helped negotiate the prisoner swap, but he says he was unaware of the names of the US prisoners.
CentralMass
(16,550 posts)3. Only the best people.
Polybius
(20,920 posts)4. Misleading
It was a prisoner swap. He's going back to Venezuela.
Nevilledog
(54,557 posts)6. He was in Venezuela. This is one of the 10 brought to the US
https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-07-22/perpetrator-of-triple-homicide-in-madrid-included-in-group-of-political-prisoners-repatriated-by-us-from-venezuela.html
The United States has welcomed the release and surrender by the Venezuelan Chavista regime of a group of 10 Americans who landed last Friday in Texas, among them a triple murderer, Dahud Hanid Ortiz. The identity of this freed man has been confirmed to EL PAÍS through a source close to the Spanish secret services and another from the Venezuelan NGO Foro Penal, which is dedicated to the defense of political prisoners. This organization, a reference in the field of human rights in Venezuela, warned that among those being released was one who was not a political prisoner. This Tuesday, Foro Penal confirmed to this newspaper that it was referring to Ortiz.
At the time of publication, the U.S. State Department had not responded to a request from this newspaper for confirmation as to whether Ortiz has been transferred to a prison. Images published in the U.S. media show him last Friday, waving to the camera as he and the rest of the group left the Joint Base San Antonio military installation in Texas.
Born in Venezuela, Ortiz obtained U.S. citizenship and served in Iraq. He was sentenced in Venezuela in January 2024 to 30 years in prison for killing three people in Madrid in 2016. After committing the crime, he escaped to his home country, where he was arrested in 2018.
*snip*
The United States has welcomed the release and surrender by the Venezuelan Chavista regime of a group of 10 Americans who landed last Friday in Texas, among them a triple murderer, Dahud Hanid Ortiz. The identity of this freed man has been confirmed to EL PAÍS through a source close to the Spanish secret services and another from the Venezuelan NGO Foro Penal, which is dedicated to the defense of political prisoners. This organization, a reference in the field of human rights in Venezuela, warned that among those being released was one who was not a political prisoner. This Tuesday, Foro Penal confirmed to this newspaper that it was referring to Ortiz.
At the time of publication, the U.S. State Department had not responded to a request from this newspaper for confirmation as to whether Ortiz has been transferred to a prison. Images published in the U.S. media show him last Friday, waving to the camera as he and the rest of the group left the Joint Base San Antonio military installation in Texas.
Born in Venezuela, Ortiz obtained U.S. citizenship and served in Iraq. He was sentenced in Venezuela in January 2024 to 30 years in prison for killing three people in Madrid in 2016. After committing the crime, he escaped to his home country, where he was arrested in 2018.
*snip*
Wiz Imp
(7,565 posts)11. It's unclear what (if anything) is going to happen to him.
https://www.newsweek.com/dahud-hanid-ortiz-triple-murderer-venezuela-el-salvador-trump-2103051
He should be placed in a US jail or extradited to Spain where he committed the triple murder, but both scenarios seem unlikely at this point.
What Happens Next
According to El País, there are suspicions that Ortiz falsified evidence to present himself not as a murderer, but as a political prisoner or a U.S. spy, in order to be included in the prisoner exchange.
His whereabouts now are unclear, though he is believed to be in Texas.
According to El País, there are suspicions that Ortiz falsified evidence to present himself not as a murderer, but as a political prisoner or a U.S. spy, in order to be included in the prisoner exchange.
His whereabouts now are unclear, though he is believed to be in Texas.
He should be placed in a US jail or extradited to Spain where he committed the triple murder, but both scenarios seem unlikely at this point.
He has been repatriated to the US. We gave Venezuela 250 Venezuelan prisoners that had been imprisoned at CECOT in El Salvador and got 10 American Venezuelan prisoners in exchange.
The idea, of course, was that these 10 were political prisoners. As usual, there apparently was no real vetting. Partisan ideologues being incompetent.
What a surprise.
Greybnk48
(10,613 posts)5. Jeffrey Epstein! That's what I want to talk about! n/t
Fullduplexxx
(8,570 posts)7. And this pertains to Epstein how?
AZ8theist
(6,906 posts)18. Distraction.
Bettie
(18,912 posts)8. Oh, he's definitely ICE material
in the current world we live in.
mainer
(12,437 posts)9. We only want home-grown murderers
So of course let's bring 'em home.
muriel_volestrangler
(104,864 posts)19. He was born in Venezuela, came to the US at some point, got US citizenship
and served in the Marines:
Born in Barquisimeto, Venezuela, in 1970, Dahud Hanid renounced his Venezuelan nationality to become a U.S. Marine.
He participated in missions in South Korea and Iraq and was awarded the "Purple Heart," one of the highest honors in the Army.
https://en.cibercuba.com/noticias/2025-07-22-u1-e129488-s27061-nid307556-asesino-dos-cubanas-madrid-diez-presos-politicos
He participated in missions in South Korea and Iraq and was awarded the "Purple Heart," one of the highest honors in the Army.
https://en.cibercuba.com/noticias/2025-07-22-u1-e129488-s27061-nid307556-asesino-dos-cubanas-madrid-diez-presos-politicos
(though other reports say he was still a Venezuelan citizen when he murdered, which is why Venezuela tried him)
Whether that makes him "home-grown" could be debated.
Texin
(2,806 posts)10. "He'll probably be given a job with ICE." Or Health and Human Services.
dalton99a
(90,450 posts)12. He axed one man in the head, slashed a woman's throat, and beat another woman to death

Ortiz, a former Marine, was convicted and jailed for a triple homicide in which he axed one man in the head, slashed a womans throat, and beat another woman to death before lighting the office on fire. Ortiz then fled to Venezuela, where he had dual citizenship and could not be extradited. He was arrested shortly thereafter and last year was sentenced to 30 years in prison. Thanks to Trump, the convicted murderer barely served his sentence.
https://newrepublic.com/post/198272/trump-prison-swap-vezuela-freed-american-convicted-murder
https://www.newsweek.com/dahud-hanid-ortiz-triple-murderer-venezuela-el-salvador-trump-2103051
Before the murders in Spain, records show that Hanid Ortiz was court-martialed and convicted by the U.S. military for fraudulent appointment, on charges that included falsifying Army physical fitness training information, medical information, and interviews and recommendations from superiors, along with larceny. He was also found to have submitted a false New York City address to receive a New York housing allowance for his family, who were living in Germany with him. He appealed but lost.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/07/23/ortiz-murder-venezuela-trump-prisoner-swap-bukele-el-salvador-spain/
still-prayin4rain
(508 posts)13. This horrifying. These incompetent a**holes are causing so much harm in so many ways.
progressoid
(52,026 posts)16. "His whereabouts now are unclear, though he is believed to be in Texas."

dalton99a
(90,450 posts)17. The people Dahud Hanid Ortiz murdered:

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(129,173 posts)21. K&R