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surfered

(9,484 posts)
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 11:22 AM Jul 23

President Trump Frees Ax Murderer Who Slit Throats

This administration isn’t vetting any of those coming or going! He’ll probably be given a job with ICE.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-prisoner-swap-2673709881/

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President Trump Frees Ax Murderer Who Slit Throats (Original Post) surfered Jul 23 OP
What I see are a lot of Under Armor t-shirts Aviation Pro Jul 23 #1
Is that a brand favored by right winger militias ? drray23 Jul 23 #15
Yep Aviation Pro Jul 23 #20
Served in US military and got US citizenship, born in Venezuela, convicted there of triple murder in Spain in 2016 muriel_volestrangler Jul 23 #2
Only the best people. CentralMass Jul 23 #3
Misleading Polybius Jul 23 #4
He was in Venezuela. This is one of the 10 brought to the US Nevilledog Jul 23 #6
It's unclear what (if anything) is going to happen to him. Wiz Imp Jul 23 #11
Incorrect Picaro Jul 23 #14
Jeffrey Epstein! That's what I want to talk about! n/t Greybnk48 Jul 23 #5
And this pertains to Epstein how? Fullduplexxx Jul 23 #7
Distraction. AZ8theist Jul 23 #18
Oh, he's definitely ICE material Bettie Jul 23 #8
We only want home-grown murderers mainer Jul 23 #9
He was born in Venezuela, came to the US at some point, got US citizenship muriel_volestrangler Jul 23 #19
"He'll probably be given a job with ICE." Or Health and Human Services. Texin Jul 23 #10
He axed one man in the head, slashed a woman's throat, and beat another woman to death dalton99a Jul 23 #12
This horrifying. These incompetent a**holes are causing so much harm in so many ways. still-prayin4rain Jul 23 #13
"His whereabouts now are unclear, though he is believed to be in Texas." progressoid Jul 23 #16
The people Dahud Hanid Ortiz murdered: dalton99a Jul 23 #17
K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 24 #21

muriel_volestrangler

(104,864 posts)
2. Served in US military and got US citizenship, born in Venezuela, convicted there of triple murder in Spain in 2016
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 11:40 AM
Jul 23
The triple homicide perpetrated by Ortiz took place in 2016 in a law office in Usera, a working-class district in the south of the Spanish capital. None of the three victims were who he was actually going after that day. His target was Víctor Salas, a lawyer who was in a relationship with his ex-wife who he had threatened to kill. That day, however, he murdered two female employees of the office and a client whom he mistook for Salas. Eight years later he was sentenced to 30 years in prison in Venezuela, his home country, for the crime. But a little over a year later, Ortiz has regained his freedom thanks to a prisoner exchange between the United States and Venezuela. A new plot twist in a never-ending story.

His conviction did not come about easily. After committing the murders, Ortiz returned to Germany, where he lived at the time. He created a whole framework with his cell phone, photos, and tickets from commercial establishments to hide his crime, but, despite all his precautions, the Spanish National Police gathered the necessary evidence to prove that the hand that had executed those three people was Ortiz’s.

When cornered, the ex-military officer escaped to Latin America and ended up in his native Venezuela, where he was arrested. After several comings and goings, the trial against him was set in motion in the South American country, although it was delayed four times until the final verdict was reached: guilty.
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In an interview granted to a German media outlet, Ortiz’s ex-wife has assured that “the competent authorities are currently evaluating the inclusion of this person in the police information system, in order to ensure that he cannot enter the Schengen area, and in particular, Germany.” She added: “There is a well-founded suspicion that the man’s lawyer in Venezuela intentionally provided false information by not presenting him as a convicted murderer, but as a political prisoner or even a U.S. spy, with the aim of including him in the prisoner exchange.”

https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-07-22/perpetrator-of-triple-homicide-in-madrid-included-in-group-of-political-prisoners-repatriated-by-us-from-venezuela.html

Ironically, former Spanish PM José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero helped negotiate the prisoner swap, but he says he was unaware of the names of the US prisoners.

Nevilledog

(54,557 posts)
6. He was in Venezuela. This is one of the 10 brought to the US
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 12:25 PM
Jul 23
https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-07-22/perpetrator-of-triple-homicide-in-madrid-included-in-group-of-political-prisoners-repatriated-by-us-from-venezuela.html

The United States has welcomed the release and surrender by the Venezuelan Chavista regime of a group of 10 Americans who landed last Friday in Texas, among them a triple murderer, Dahud Hanid Ortiz. The identity of this freed man has been confirmed to EL PAÍS through a source close to the Spanish secret services and another from the Venezuelan NGO Foro Penal, which is dedicated to the defense of political prisoners. This organization, a reference in the field of human rights in Venezuela, warned that among those being released was one who was not a political prisoner. This Tuesday, Foro Penal confirmed to this newspaper that it was referring to Ortiz.

At the time of publication, the U.S. State Department had not responded to a request from this newspaper for confirmation as to whether Ortiz has been transferred to a prison. Images published in the U.S. media show him last Friday, waving to the camera as he and the rest of the group left the Joint Base San Antonio military installation in Texas.

Born in Venezuela, Ortiz obtained U.S. citizenship and served in Iraq. He was sentenced in Venezuela in January 2024 to 30 years in prison for killing three people in Madrid in 2016. After committing the crime, he escaped to his home country, where he was arrested in 2018.

*snip*

Wiz Imp

(7,565 posts)
11. It's unclear what (if anything) is going to happen to him.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 01:35 PM
Jul 23
https://www.newsweek.com/dahud-hanid-ortiz-triple-murderer-venezuela-el-salvador-trump-2103051
What Happens Next
According to El País, there are suspicions that Ortiz falsified evidence to present himself not as a murderer, but as a political prisoner or a U.S. spy, in order to be included in the prisoner exchange.

His whereabouts now are unclear, though he is believed to be in Texas.

He should be placed in a US jail or extradited to Spain where he committed the triple murder, but both scenarios seem unlikely at this point.

Picaro

(2,197 posts)
14. Incorrect
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 01:49 PM
Jul 23

He has been “repatriated” to the US. We gave Venezuela 250 Venezuelan prisoners that had been imprisoned at CECOT in El Salvador and got 10 American Venezuelan prisoners in exchange.

The idea, of course, was that these 10 were political prisoners. As usual, there apparently was no real vetting. Partisan ideologues being incompetent.

What a surprise.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,864 posts)
19. He was born in Venezuela, came to the US at some point, got US citizenship
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 03:19 PM
Jul 23

and served in the Marines:

Born in Barquisimeto, Venezuela, in 1970, Dahud Hanid renounced his Venezuelan nationality to become a U.S. Marine.

He participated in missions in South Korea and Iraq and was awarded the "Purple Heart," one of the highest honors in the Army.

https://en.cibercuba.com/noticias/2025-07-22-u1-e129488-s27061-nid307556-asesino-dos-cubanas-madrid-diez-presos-politicos

(though other reports say he was still a Venezuelan citizen when he murdered, which is why Venezuela tried him)

Whether that makes him "home-grown" could be debated.

dalton99a

(90,450 posts)
12. He axed one man in the head, slashed a woman's throat, and beat another woman to death
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 01:37 PM
Jul 23


Ortiz, a former Marine, was convicted and jailed for a triple homicide in which he axed one man in the head, slashed a woman’s throat, and beat another woman to death before lighting the office on fire. Ortiz then fled to Venezuela, where he had dual citizenship and could not be extradited. He was arrested shortly thereafter and last year was sentenced to 30 years in prison. Thanks to Trump, the convicted murderer barely served his sentence.

https://newrepublic.com/post/198272/trump-prison-swap-vezuela-freed-american-convicted-murder

https://www.newsweek.com/dahud-hanid-ortiz-triple-murderer-venezuela-el-salvador-trump-2103051


Before the murders in Spain, records show that Hanid Ortiz was court-martialed and convicted by the U.S. military for fraudulent appointment, on charges that included falsifying Army physical fitness training information, medical information, and interviews and recommendations from superiors, along with larceny. He was also found to have submitted a false New York City address to receive a New York housing allowance for his family, who were living in Germany with him. He appealed but lost.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/07/23/ortiz-murder-venezuela-trump-prisoner-swap-bukele-el-salvador-spain/
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