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"I ain't never seen Vegas like this on a Saturday night. Where's the people. Holy shit." (Original Post) Swede 12 hrs ago OP
Well foreign tourists aren't coming Ritabert 11 hrs ago #1
Gamble on your phone. No need to travel. Srkdqltr 11 hrs ago #2
No, just like Amazon put out shopping malls BS Blue Full Moon 11 hrs ago #25
Between multiple fees on rooms edhopper 11 hrs ago #3
that is very true rollin74 11 hrs ago #4
Is it possible to know the TRUE cost of a Vegas hotel room before booking it? JoseBalow 1 hr ago #56
Not just Vegas MurrayDelph 1 hr ago #58
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave 11 hrs ago #5
I lived there from 3/20 - 6/22 Greg_In_SF 11 hrs ago #7
There are no dispensaries on the actual strip from what I saw on my last visit newdeal2 11 hrs ago #15
Yep Greg_In_SF 11 hrs ago #24
Pot stores, gun stores... Wednesdays 4 hrs ago #48
You know what though? Greg_In_SF 3 hrs ago #49
Sounds like America Torchlight 11 hrs ago #9
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave 11 hrs ago #12
Perhaps you're not? Torchlight 11 hrs ago #17
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave 11 hrs ago #19
It's kind of an unwritten rule that LV Metro Police Greg_In_SF 11 hrs ago #27
Pretty strong in Portland sometimes CanonRay 9 hrs ago #41
what's wrong with smelling like pot? Skittles 7 hrs ago #43
Nothing for me. CanonRay 6 hrs ago #44
For a town that transitioned Greg_In_SF 3 hrs ago #50
Live in New York edhopper 11 hrs ago #23
Center City Philadelphia PA smells like Reefer all the time. BBbats 9 hrs ago #39
Lmao...that was my takeaway Docreed2003 9 hrs ago #40
Three long time Vegas insiders explain... Greg_In_SF 11 hrs ago #6
That was interesting! Thanks rurallib 11 hrs ago #22
"The tariffs that were put in place in early 2025 has many international tourists staying away from Las Vegas... W_HAMILTON 6 hrs ago #46
Aren't most Traildogbob 11 hrs ago #8
We're Going In 2 Weeks Deep State Witch 11 hrs ago #10
Wait until you see the taxes that will be added to you room rate. Melon 11 hrs ago #16
The Rio Greg_In_SF 11 hrs ago #28
Have fun! SheltieLover 10 hrs ago #35
That Sounds Like Fun ProfessorGAC 10 hrs ago #36
My mother and I saw Colm Meany in Moon for the Misbegotten MIButterfly 1 hr ago #54
This then is atypical? Torchlight 11 hrs ago #11
A lot of Vegas mega-moneybucksters are bigly backers of the GOP syndicate BoRaGard 11 hrs ago #13
It's JULY. maxsolomon 11 hrs ago #14
It's a dry heat Greg_In_SF 11 hrs ago #29
Anything over 90 and Seattleites melt. maxsolomon 10 hrs ago #31
Tell me about it! Greg_In_SF 10 hrs ago #32
It's way overpriced. Absurdly so. The strip is dangerous Melon 11 hrs ago #18
Just like almost every city in America. Hey Joe 10 hrs ago #34
No where close. It's not everywhere in America. There are a few cities that have gone to complete garbage. Melon 10 hrs ago #37
Youtubers have been reporting the decline in visitors Demovictory9 11 hrs ago #20
Greg in SF edhopper 11 hrs ago #21
Greed/Corruption. Here's a good story. My husband worked at a Greyhound track. (Microsoft Engineer) chouchou 11 hrs ago #26
The billionaires are siphoning all the money Blue Owl 10 hrs ago #30
LITERALLY vapor2 10 hrs ago #38
Nevadans boted for this. Just as Ohio did FTR irisblue 10 hrs ago #33
The World series of Poker just ended. iemanja 8 hrs ago #42
Because Vegas is crap... and everyone is trying to get out... Chakaconcarne 6 hrs ago #45
When Covid came we really took a hit and the only people visiting were riff-raff, the dollar general crowd. pecosbob 4 hrs ago #47
Costs too much. Xolodno 3 hrs ago #51
You know what? ._. 2 hrs ago #52
Back in the 80s I use to go there for some big fights. multigraincracker 2 hrs ago #53
My mother and I used to go to Vegas every year. It was so cheap back then MIButterfly 1 hr ago #55
I'm calling BULLSHIT Greg_In_SF 1 hr ago #57
I initially assumed it's partly seasonal given how hot it is right now fujiyamasan 47 min ago #59

Ritabert

(1,378 posts)
1. Well foreign tourists aren't coming
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:30 PM
11 hrs ago

....why would they? And Americans are conserving their money due to the whiplash tariffs. Haven't been there in years. Not going back.

edhopper

(36,354 posts)
3. Between multiple fees on rooms
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:34 PM
11 hrs ago

changing the odds at Casinos, ridiculous prices at restaurants, sky high event tickets Vegas is doing everything it can to push away visitors.

JoseBalow

(7,958 posts)
56. Is it possible to know the TRUE cost of a Vegas hotel room before booking it?
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 01:00 AM
1 hr ago

If so, how?

MurrayDelph

(5,591 posts)
58. Not just Vegas
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 01:09 AM
1 hr ago

I stopped going to Vegas 20+ years ago, when they raised table minimums above what I am willing to risk. But my commute started taking me through Reno, where I could still play. After COVID, that went away, too. Casinos would rather have dealers standing around an empty Craps or Pai-Gow table at $15 minimum bet than have a bunch of low-rollers playing $5 min and there not be a spot for their mythical whale.

Response to Swede (Original post)

Greg_In_SF

(381 posts)
7. I lived there from 3/20 - 6/22
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:40 PM
11 hrs ago

Not a gambler, so never went to the strip , but the entire town smells like weed. There's are pot stores and gun stores on every corner.

newdeal2

(3,417 posts)
15. There are no dispensaries on the actual strip from what I saw on my last visit
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:47 PM
11 hrs ago

Everything legal is off strip at least from what I could tell.

But before weed, it smelled like cigarettes and booze. Pick your poison I guess.

Greg_In_SF

(381 posts)
49. You know what though?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:28 PM
3 hrs ago

Away from the strip, is really is just a normal place to live. People dropping kids at school, grocery shopping, going to the bank...just every day normal life. I lived on the west side of town which is really quite nice.

Car insurance is astronomically high though. 24-hour drinking town = lots of DUIs and crashes.

Response to Torchlight (Reply #9)

Torchlight

(5,138 posts)
17. Perhaps you're not?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:48 PM
11 hrs ago

(I doubt different opinions about a city are a valid indication of foreign birth)

Response to Torchlight (Reply #17)

Greg_In_SF

(381 posts)
27. It's kind of an unwritten rule that LV Metro Police
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:20 PM
11 hrs ago

won't mess with you on the strip unless you basically walk right up to them and light a joint in their face. They just look the other way.

Greg_In_SF

(381 posts)
50. For a town that transitioned
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:32 PM
3 hrs ago

in to a family friendly destination to increase tourism, having your entire tourist district smell like weed is absolutely moronic.

Docreed2003

(18,429 posts)
40. Lmao...that was my takeaway
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:49 PM
9 hrs ago

I've been to Vegas twice in the last two years for conferences and you comment was exactly what I said to friends and family when I got home.

I'm no prude but the pot smell is obnoxiously ever present and the prices have become ridiculously high on everything in the city, from hotels and food down to a simple Uber/Lyft ride.

W_HAMILTON

(9,340 posts)
46. "The tariffs that were put in place in early 2025 has many international tourists staying away from Las Vegas...
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:46 PM
6 hrs ago

...due to uncertainty. This matters a lot because international tourists typically stay longer, gamble more, and spend more on shows and dining than domestic visitors. New trade policies have made traveling to the US more expensive for foreign tourists, while Canadian airlines have reduced flights to Vegas as demand dropped."

Traildogbob

(11,517 posts)
8. Aren't most
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:40 PM
11 hrs ago

Of those billionaires that own casinos, restaurants and Hotel’s in Vegas trump sugar daddies?
Who better to get the full shit in their face than his peeps? Funny he may bankrupt all the Vegas Casinos. He is great at that.

Deep State Witch

(12,012 posts)
10. We're Going In 2 Weeks
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:40 PM
11 hrs ago

To the 60th Anniversary Star Trek Convention at the Rio. I haven't been to Vegas in over 20 years. The room rates are astronomical - even with the convention rate. We're going mainly because there's one star that we've been trying to get his autograph for years, but he doesn't do cons very often. (Colm Meaney).

This is costing us about as much as the Star Trek Cruise - only it's in Vegas in the summer.

ProfessorGAC

(73,636 posts)
36. That Sounds Like Fun
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:03 PM
10 hrs ago

I went to Vegas on a Sunday when I was in SoCal the weekend before a plant visit.
I drive there because the MGM Grand had The Star Trek Experience.
I went through it twice, including the shuttle attack thrill ride, stopped to eat at the Luxor, and drove back to LA.
I've never been to a Trek convention. Hope you have fun!

MIButterfly

(868 posts)
54. My mother and I saw Colm Meany in Moon for the Misbegotten
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 12:42 AM
1 hr ago

with Kevin Spacey and Eve Best in New York in 2007. We stood outside the stage store for autographs after the play and he was very nice and gracious. I was a big fan of Kevin Spacey back then. Not anymore.

Torchlight

(5,138 posts)
11. This then is atypical?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:41 PM
11 hrs ago

I've never gone, and any knowledge I hold comes from 70s police dramas and 90s films.

maxsolomon

(36,909 posts)
14. It's JULY.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:46 PM
11 hrs ago

It's 97 degrees there currently. No thanks, even if I'm at a pool.

The sheep will return to be fleeced when it cools off.

Greg_In_SF

(381 posts)
29. It's a dry heat
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:23 PM
11 hrs ago

with 8% humidity today. When I lived there, my cutoff 'uncomfortable temperature' was 105°

maxsolomon

(36,909 posts)
31. Anything over 90 and Seattleites melt.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:32 PM
10 hrs ago

Well, Native Seattleites start to whine at 80. Imports have a little more tolerance.

Greg_In_SF

(381 posts)
32. Tell me about it!
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:37 PM
10 hrs ago

I moved to LV from San Francisco where it was basically 65° every day for 30 years

Melon

(583 posts)
18. It's way overpriced. Absurdly so. The strip is dangerous
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:50 PM
11 hrs ago

At night with aggressive homeless people on drugs everywhere. I had one take a swing at me while walking with my children.

They have also changed the odds on blackjack and roulette( payout). It’s just not fun. The buffets are $75 a plate.

Hey Joe

(117 posts)
34. Just like almost every city in America.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:49 PM
10 hrs ago

Greed has destroyed this country and made it harder to just live your life.
If I could afford to move to another country I certainly would not hesitate. Every thing here is a fraud, a shakedown or a lie.

Melon

(583 posts)
37. No where close. It's not everywhere in America. There are a few cities that have gone to complete garbage.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:07 PM
10 hrs ago

This is one. If you move to EU, there are cities with the same or worse street crime now. Here it is drugs. There it is other social issues with rampant pickpockets and scammers, and mugging and assaults at night. You are running from this issue unless you choose carefully.

chouchou

(2,155 posts)
26. Greed/Corruption. Here's a good story. My husband worked at a Greyhound track. (Microsoft Engineer)
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:19 PM
11 hrs ago

He said: "Was rather a good job and paid well and watch the doggies."
"I was concerned when trainers/owners of the place started giving me tips that night...and lots of nights"
"I mean, I was afraid the FBI or someone would raid the place..: The tips were NOT who is going to win"
"It was who WASN'T going to even run 4th or last. It was like the proverbial candy from a baby.....except"
"..One thing those "Tipsters" forgot. The average person got sick and tired of NEVER WINNING"
"So...in 2009...the place closed....why would you bet on a dog that looked good only to trail the pack..
...and walk out of the place broke ,,every night... .
That was in Hudson Wisconsin..

iemanja

(56,274 posts)
42. The World series of Poker just ended.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:22 PM
8 hrs ago

And the Grinder probably took his ten million and his rail back to Florida.

Chakaconcarne

(2,766 posts)
45. Because Vegas is crap... and everyone is trying to get out...
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:36 PM
6 hrs ago

Based on the increase of available houses on the market currently.

pecosbob

(8,037 posts)
47. When Covid came we really took a hit and the only people visiting were riff-raff, the dollar general crowd.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:47 PM
4 hrs ago

We started seeing shit we never saw before in Las Vegas...cigarette butts in the swimming pools, trash on the streets, people wearing pajamas and crocs. At the same time the hotel-casinos have devolved into clip-joint shopping malls with crappy smelly rooms, bedbugs and constant break-ins.

Now the tariffs and harassment of non-citizens are depressing room occupancy even further. I say forget Vegas...go visit a national park instead while we still have them.

Xolodno

(7,081 posts)
51. Costs too much.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:44 PM
3 hrs ago

It's $20 to park your car when that used to be free or if casino's did charge, it was $5. Food at dining establishments have skyrocketed and so have show/event tickets. And never mind the price of the room, they advertise a cheap rate and then tack on a bunch of extra's like "resort fee's" to use the internet and pool (and the pools are closed during the winter).

And quality has gone down on everything.

And of course most people don't gamble anymore, they know the odds are stacked against them. But the casino's keep raising the minimum bets to the point people for sure won't bother. Having some cheap table games, even if electronic, is more likely to get people to actually play (seen it in Native American casinos). Heck, if you make the parking fee a voucher to play on the games you would actually encourage people to play beyond that.

The level of greed is pushing people away and of course the clown in the Whitehouse isn't helping with foreign tourists.

._.

(1,511 posts)
52. You know what?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 11:34 PM
2 hrs ago

I can say the same thing about Fisherman's Wharf in SF on a Sunday in July..



Where are all the tourists?



multigraincracker

(35,999 posts)
53. Back in the 80s I use to go there for some big fights.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 12:00 AM
2 hrs ago

Was friends with a bookie in Detroit. I use to pick up and deliver cash for him, so he rewarded me with tickets for some major boxing matches.
Back then there were no greater bargains than Vegas. Great room for $20/nights, all you could eat buffets for $1.99 and so on. The casinos were getting rich on the gamblers, so they gave everything else away.
Don’t know what happened, but that all went away.

MIButterfly

(868 posts)
55. My mother and I used to go to Vegas every year. It was so cheap back then
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 12:54 AM
1 hr ago

especially if you went in August (nobody wanted to go to the desert in August) or the week before Christmas. The airfare was cheap; the rooms were cheap; the food was cheap; they had all kinds of freebies all over the place. The last time we went was 2013 and all of that was gone already. Everything was just as expensive as any other big city and don't get me started on "resort fees" which is an extra charge they gouge you with even if you don't use the services they're supposedly for. It's too bad because we really loved going there.

I can only imagine it's gotten worse since 2013.

Greg_In_SF

(381 posts)
57. I'm calling BULLSHIT
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 01:07 AM
1 hr ago

here.

That is supposed to be a video from this past Saturday morning at 1:00am. Here's what was happening late Friday evening.

There are WAY too many Vegas bloggers to make an idiot believe that this video was filmed at 1:00am last Saturday morning.

You have to click to watch...

&t=4709s

fujiyamasan

(477 posts)
59. I initially assumed it's partly seasonal given how hot it is right now
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 01:36 AM
47 min ago

I agree with others in that It has gotten increasingly expensive, but I’d have to check the stats to see if it has necessarily become more crime ridden or violent.

But I think international tourists will find alternatives to a town mostly known for casinos and being flashy. In many ways Vegas just isn’t that unique anymore.

If ICE crackdowns continue the city will definitely suffer a drop in tourism. I can’t see why Asian tourists especially will continue to flock there. They may as well head to somewhere like Macau. And if they want over the top glitz some may consider a place like Dubai. Oh well, self inflicted wound if it turns out that way. Nevada did vote for Trump. I know, I know Clark county didnt, but nevertheless it’s supposed to be the firewall.

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