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Black author recounts nightmare racism on vacation cruise (Original Post) orangecrush 13 hrs ago OP
"Authoress"? Ocelot II 13 hrs ago #1
Archaic orangecrush 10 hrs ago #7
And note that the video doesn't even call her that!!! yardwork 10 hrs ago #14
Any thoughts on the racism orangecrush 10 hrs ago #27
Corrected orangecrush 10 hrs ago #18
I don't usually watch videos so I'll have to take your word for it. Ocelot II 10 hrs ago #19
Ok thanks orangecrush 10 hrs ago #20
"Chuck and Stephanie from Alberta" dalton99a 12 hrs ago #2
I learned something new today Samael13 12 hrs ago #3
Miriam Webster orangecrush 10 hrs ago #8
Modern usage is considered sexist obamanut2012 10 hrs ago #22
Ok sorry orangecrush 10 hrs ago #28
There's no need for it. yardwork 10 hrs ago #16
It is, modern usage is considered sexist obamanut2012 10 hrs ago #21
Summary! maveric 12 hrs ago #4
Woman gets told by Kevin and Karen orangecrush 10 hrs ago #9
Thats fucked up. maveric 10 hrs ago #12
Totally orangecrush 10 hrs ago #13
article: WhiskeyGrinder 12 hrs ago #5
Thank you orangecrush 10 hrs ago #10
"Author," exactly like the title of the video LearnedHand 12 hrs ago #6
Merriam Webster orangecrush 10 hrs ago #11
No one said anything diminutive orangecrush 10 hrs ago #15
It is by definition diminutive. yardwork 10 hrs ago #17
Agreed, Generally; Not Specifically ProfessorGAC 10 hrs ago #29
Thanks, Professor orangecrush 9 hrs ago #37
Modern usage of "authoress" is considered sexist -- why did you change author to authoress? obamanut2012 10 hrs ago #23
Sorry orangecrush 10 hrs ago #26
The suffix -"ess" is attached to words representing the default, which is or was presumptively male, Ocelot II 10 hrs ago #24
Got it orangecrush 10 hrs ago #25
potato, poTAHto -bottom line B.See 9 hrs ago #30
Thank you JustAnotherGen 9 hrs ago #34
And with her Mom there orangecrush 9 hrs ago #36
Exactly. Didn't watch the video, but B.See 8 hrs ago #38
Exactly the point Reese Waters made orangecrush 7 hrs ago #39
Dang.....racist Canadians. I'm one of the first to ever type that phrase. 😁 Melon 9 hrs ago #31
I experienced JustAnotherGen 9 hrs ago #33
Of course JustAnotherGen 9 hrs ago #32
... orangecrush 9 hrs ago #35

orangecrush

(25,707 posts)
7. Archaic
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:32 PM
10 hrs ago

Miriam Webster


authoress
noun
au·​thor·​ess ˈȯ-th(ə rəs
somewhat old-fashioned
: a woman or girl who is an author

Ocelot II

(126,066 posts)
19. I don't usually watch videos so I'll have to take your word for it.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:55 PM
10 hrs ago

I clicked on the link only because of the use of the word "authoress."

Samael13

(44 posts)
3. I learned something new today
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 01:41 PM
12 hrs ago

I always thought author was a all inclusive term I didnt know there was a term specifically for women

orangecrush

(25,707 posts)
8. Miriam Webster
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:33 PM
10 hrs ago


authoress
noun
au·​thor·​ess ˈȯ-th(ə rəs
somewhat old-fashioned
: a woman or girl who is an author

yardwork

(67,249 posts)
16. There's no need for it.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:37 PM
10 hrs ago

There's no need to call people poetesses, authoresses, actresses, stewardesses, waitresses, or any of the other silly terms that imply that women are less than the standard.

orangecrush

(25,707 posts)
9. Woman gets told by Kevin and Karen
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:34 PM
10 hrs ago


That she has no business being in first class.

Accuse her of getting admission by sexual favors.

Karen kicks water in her face.

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,334 posts)
5. article:
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 01:55 PM
12 hrs ago
https://travelnoire.com/toni-tone-cruise

In a pair of viral TikTok videos, British author Toni Tone recounted what she described as “the most racist encounter” of her life while vacationing on a Virgin Voyages cruise with her mother. The incident, which took place in a VIP area known as “Richard’s rooftop,” involved a couple who repeatedly questioned her presence in the exclusive section, complained to staff about her, and eventually resorted to splashing water in her face while laughing.

Despite having legitimate access to the area through special VIP cards, Toni faced escalating harassment that culminated in the female aggressor implying she had exchanged sexual favors for her cruise tickets. “I was in so much shock,” Toni explained in her video, describing how she refused to give her harassers the satisfaction of an emotional reaction despite the humiliation they attempted to inflict.

The confrontation began innocuously when an older man photobombed a picture Toni’s mother was taking of her. Shortly after, the man approached Toni and questioned how she gained access to the VIP area despite staff confirming she had proper authorization. The situation escalated when the couple realized complaints to staff wouldn’t result in Toni’s removal from the area.

Toni described how the couple, whom she called “Chuck and Stephanie” from Alberta, Canada, attempted to provoke a reaction from her that might justify her removal. When Toni entered the hot tub where they were sitting, the woman deliberately kicked water into her face while the couple laughed. They explicitly questioned how a Black woman could have legitimately accessed the VIP area.

LearnedHand

(4,815 posts)
6. "Author," exactly like the title of the video
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:02 PM
12 hrs ago

There is zero reason ever to diminish women’s importance by adding the -ess diminutive to their professional title.

orangecrush

(25,707 posts)
11. Merriam Webster
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:35 PM
10 hrs ago

authoress
noun
au·​thor·​ess ˈȯ-th(ə rəs
somewhat old-fashioned
: a woman or girl who is an author

orangecrush

(25,707 posts)
15. No one said anything diminutive
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:37 PM
10 hrs ago

Sorry you have nothing of substance to say about the op.

ProfessorGAC

(73,636 posts)
29. Agreed, Generally; Not Specifically
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:17 PM
10 hrs ago

I completely agree that adding the "-ess" is archaic & unnecessary.
Nobody calls Gretchen Whitmer "Governess". She's called "Governor".
Nobody called Jane Byrne "Mayoress". They called her "Mayor".
Where we disagree is that it's diminutive.
Doggie is a diminutive of dog. Kitty is a diminutive of cat.
Authoress is gender specific (needlessly) but not diminutive.

orangecrush

(25,707 posts)
37. Thanks, Professor
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:17 PM
9 hrs ago

Usually if a term is deprecating, the dictionary will define it as such.

Still, I have no desire to offend anyone here, so I corrected it and will not use it.

obamanut2012

(28,643 posts)
23. Modern usage of "authoress" is considered sexist -- why did you change author to authoress?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:08 PM
10 hrs ago

Sexism and racism are both very, very appalling.

Ocelot II

(126,066 posts)
24. The suffix -"ess" is attached to words representing the default, which is or was presumptively male,
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:11 PM
10 hrs ago

to indicate the female exception to some jobs or statuses, e.g., author, actor, host, waiter, steward, poet, comedian. To indicate the female exception, the suffix "ess" (sometimes "enne" or "ine", e.g., "heroine," "comedienne" ) was used but is now discouraged as sexist.

orangecrush

(25,707 posts)
25. Got it
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:12 PM
10 hrs ago

And thank you for informing me without presuming I meant offense.

I appreciate it.

B.See

(5,903 posts)
30. potato, poTAHto -bottom line
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:24 PM
9 hrs ago

a person had her cruise experience forever ruined by a pair of racist mfkrs who believed themselves entitled (as in PRIVILEGED) to question her legitimacy, based on the colour of her skin.

FUCK them..

B.See

(5,903 posts)
38. Exactly. Didn't watch the video, but
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:16 PM
8 hrs ago

the write up did state the male creep began the harassment by intentionally trying to spoil photos her Mom was taking of her.

If anything, it was they who should've been removed for the harassment.

She should sue the cruise liner, if for no other reason than to obtain identifying information (via discovery) so the rest of the world can learn who these cretins are.

They didn't mind trying to embarrass, disparage her. Return the favour.

JustAnotherGen

(35,692 posts)
32. Of course
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:42 PM
9 hrs ago

DU is focused on language usage instead of the fact that these two nasty *word 😃alerted at DU* fucking racists think their shit doesn't think.

I hope they both *tos violation*.

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