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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump is circling the drain politically and physically.
The House is going to go Democratic, maybe even before the midterms. The Senate may also go that way. The Epstein scandal is only going to get much worse for Trump. Why this story did not break open a year ago, I dont know. And physically, I dont think Trumps health holds up until the midterms. He may escape justice by dying.

MiHale
(11,924 posts)Delay, delay
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,393 posts)Death would be too easy an out for that POS!!
Alice B.
(564 posts)He would claim he was mentally unfit to stand trial before risking actual prison time. She says his narcissism would never allow it.
I really think that if it came down to it, though
And its not like he hasnt racked up a boatload of evidence
Hotler
(13,358 posts)He needs to experience that.
BOSSHOG
(43,329 posts)NNadir
(36,191 posts)...for which he will be subject, should a concept of history survive these awful times.
Joinfortmill
(18,587 posts)Omnipresent
(7,013 posts)
Katinfl
(427 posts)Id like to see it all become reality but its doubtful.
Haggard Celine
(17,307 posts)the White House is if he dies in office or maybe he has a severe stroke and is incapacitated and they remove him using the 25th Amendment. It doesn't look right now like he'll finish his term. I don't see him resigning, though. To him that would be an admission of guilt, and he won't ever admit guilt. He's the type person who will die with the lie.
Paladin
(31,071 posts)sop
(15,221 posts)3Hotdogs
(14,380 posts)to God's eyeballs.
mwb970
(11,881 posts)We need to be rid of this dreadful menace ASAP.
Conjuay
(2,580 posts)Unfortunately, unless he ends up in prison, his minions and omadans will be pushing to have everything from sewage treatment plants to cathedrals renamed in his honor.
lastlib
(26,329 posts)but NOTHING else! "The Donlad* tRump Memorial Sewage Plant."
(*misspelled on purpose...)
mnmoderatedem
(3,883 posts)repukes have plenty of crooked gerrymandering tricks up their sleeve
Katinfl
(427 posts)Martin Eden
(14,632 posts)They will do ANYTHING to stay in power, including martial law and rigging elections if they can.
liberalgunwilltravel
(870 posts)Competent military leadership will they have. They have fired all the knowledgeable men and women, both in the military and the intelligence community. This certainly weakens their command and control structure. Additionally, the troops that served under competent leadership, especially line and field officers, may be more loyal to their oaths and former commanders than the DUI hire's appointed lackeys. Thus, martial law may literally blow up in their face. I am certain there are more than a few honorable men and women that have plans for Nazis like Miller, Homan, and Vought.
Martin Eden
(14,632 posts)It remains to be seen how many mid-level officers and enlisted men would refuse such orders. Many in the military are rightwingers.
I don't expect martial law to be implemented competently, or that every soldier would follow orders to shoot protesters.
But I do expect this fascist regime to do everything it can to hold onto power, and they have plenty of allies in charge of state governments.
It's going to get very ugly and dangerous heading into the midterms.
newdeal2
(3,417 posts)Once he's gone, they'll still exist but they'll be fighting each other to hold on to whatever remains of Trump's base.
Seinan Sensei
(1,067 posts)Inevitably and always turns into
Me against you
Blue Full Moon
(2,461 posts)He gave the dark or shadow work permission to show in people. Once he goes it will withdraw back to the shadows. This is all because this country just sweeps under the rug all the things that is wrong and doesn't want anyone to see. No acknowledgement or healing and denial.
Martin Eden
(14,632 posts)His only real talent is a carnival barker, selling snake oil to fools. That, and wielding power to intimidate.
He didn't get to where he is without poweful billionaires using him for their own ends. Trump leaves most of the actual work in the hands of others. The machinery of this fascist regime functions without him.
The Republican congress is compliant largely because they're on board with the dismantling of the federal bureaucracy. Much of what they don't want is Trumps lunacy on tariffs and foreign affairs, which President Vance would curtail.
There is a great deal of money and power behind the fascist agenda. Trump doesn't embrace much of an ideology besides his own personal wants. He's not the driving force behind Project 2025.
It doesn't especially matter if those who voted for Trump don't much like Vance. Hell, Trumps polling numbers are underwater and likely to get worse while this Epstein saga continues.
Polls aren't power. Fascists hold the power, and they will do ANYTHING to maintain their grip. They have plenty of Republican allies in elected office, including state governments -- and the Supreme Court, for that matter.
I'm not predicting whether or not they will fully succeed in destroying American democracy.
I'm saying they will pull out all stops to maintain their grip, with or without Trump.
nowforever
(564 posts)Elected a demented malignant narcissist to be our President even though he was a convicted felon and found guilty of sexual abuse of a woman. He gets into office and immediately starts to pursue an agenda that is cruel and driven by an animosity directed at anyone or anything he perceives as a threat. All of this driven by greed and fear which is manipulated to perfection by the soulless GOP. Their only mistake, they elected a quickly deteriorating child predator who is now imploding by the second. Hoping birthday card will be released soon as it tells you what kind of man Trump truly is.
Torchlight
(5,138 posts)While I don't actively hope for it, I do tend to think watching him stroke out on national tv or clutching his chest as he's teeing off on the front nine will be one of the least surprising things I'll have ever watched him do.
nowforever
(564 posts)Wanted to thank Elon Musk for exposing the truth in his moment of narcissistic rage. THANKS ELON YOU ARE THE BEST OF THE BESTEST THE GREATEST EVER...right Donald ???
Aristus
(70,418 posts)...and 2017...2018...2019...2020...2021...2022...2023...2024...2025...
If only the good die young, this motherfucker is going to live forever...
et tu
(2,353 posts)'who wants to live forever'
most certainly he dose but
his human(?) body is frail and
'big mcafied'. your our only hope
grim reaper.
dalton99a
(89,472 posts)Luz
(855 posts)seem to want anything to do with him. I hope it stays that way, too. He deserves to die cold and alone..JMHO.
Fiendish Thingy
(20,074 posts)Except, as you pointed out, his life.
Otherwise, he won't be driven from office, and will continue to grift and enrich himself and exact his petty revenge, while his minions attempt to dismantle democracy.
He doesnt care about his approval ratings, only in his unfettered ability to wreak chaos.
Hopefully the midterms will help put the brakes on some of that, but much of the damage will have been done.
Traildogbob
(11,517 posts)Totally clogged with a mass of slimy, nasty, toxic goo that Fox and RW spew every day. Justice has zero effect on that packed drain. And all the slimiest assholes on earth are thriving in the soup that is filling the tub, with GQP R/W lying, child raping, soulless, greedy racist, power hungry thieves. And are welcome there. And are extremely toxic as well.
Joinfortmill
(18,587 posts)republianmushroom
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VanceFan
(68 posts)You keep thinking that if it helps.