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Eko

(9,470 posts)
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 12:12 AM Yesterday

Poll-Does anyone here believe in the concept of Cancel Culture?


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Yes Cancel Culture is a real thing.
15 (47%)
No Cancel Culture is a made up right wing talking point
17 (53%)
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Poll-Does anyone here believe in the concept of Cancel Culture? (Original Post) Eko Yesterday OP
Define "Cancel culture" Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #1
Thanks for commenting. Eko Yesterday #2
If they lose their job and social network, that's a pretty good definition of being canceled Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #4
If they lose their job or social network, whose fault is that? Eko Yesterday #8
I don't think it's that straight-forward meadowlander Yesterday #12
I think you misunderstand my position Fiendish Thingy 22 hrs ago #13
"Cancelling" has been painted as an unreasonable action on the part of the canceller. Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #16
Publicly shaming or ostracizing individuals who violate... pat_k Yesterday #3
Thanks, not supporting a person or group because you dont like what they are doing is just human nature. Eko Yesterday #5
I think some people laughably think it's real. EllieBC Yesterday #6
Boycotts have always been around Demovictory9 Yesterday #7
Yes. Colin Kaepernick was a victim of it. Justice Brandeis Yesterday #9
I dont agree with that. Eko Yesterday #10
According to Aristotle the purpose of civilisation is to encourage people to be more virtuous and to lead good lives. meadowlander Yesterday #11
Is that still a thing? mcar 22 hrs ago #14
In the past we could just remove our attention and money and admiration from disgusting people and no one would Scrivener7 22 hrs ago #15
It's nothing more than what happens when the right wing feels the consequence of capitalism Torchlight 22 hrs ago #17
To the extent that there were things in our culture that OUGHT to be cancelled, Jack Valentino 19 hrs ago #18

Fiendish Thingy

(20,074 posts)
1. Define "Cancel culture"
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 12:18 AM
Yesterday

To me it means when someone commits a moral, social or criminal offence, and is ostracized socially, professionally, etc.

Many times it is deserved, sometimes it is not.

It is a real thing and not just a right wing talking point.

Eko

(9,470 posts)
2. Thanks for commenting.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 12:21 AM
Yesterday

I would say withdrawing support or not associating with a person or group is not cancelling, its just a normal every day thing. In no way are you cancelling anyone. It is hyperbole.

Fiendish Thingy

(20,074 posts)
4. If they lose their job and social network, that's a pretty good definition of being canceled
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 12:32 AM
Yesterday

That is a real thing that has actually happened to real people.

How would you define being canceled?

Eko

(9,470 posts)
8. If they lose their job or social network, whose fault is that?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 12:43 AM
Yesterday

The people calling them out or the ones who did the actions leading to that outcome? I work for a large corp, if I go on camera giving views that make the company look bad and they fire me whose fault is it? Am I being canceled or am I being fired for making the company look bad? What if I said racism is good (not something I in any way believe in) and it comes out that I work for say, Boeing. Would Boeing be right in firing me or not?

meadowlander

(4,940 posts)
12. I don't think it's that straight-forward
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:44 AM
Yesterday

especially when you consider comments or actions that are very far in the past that the person in question has apologised for sincerely and viewed in the context of the rest of their beliefs and behaviour. For example,

- Al Franken being hounded out of the Senate on the basis of unsubstantiated groping accusations and a joke photo of him honking a sleeping woman's breasts
- Justin Trudeau wearing blackface when he was in high school 25 years ago
- Joy Reid almost being drummed out of her MSNBC job for 10+ year old blog posts speculating on whether politicians were gay or not

To your example, is it reasonable for your company to be trolling through your 2005 Facebook posts essentially looking for excuses to fire you, especially where our understanding of issues has since moved on and something that may have been broadly acceptable decades ago isn't anymore? That's the equivalent of what prominent public figures face and it means otherwise decent people don't bother going into politics.




Fiendish Thingy

(20,074 posts)
13. I think you misunderstand my position
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:46 AM
22 hrs ago

It seems you think that I think being cancelled is universally a bad thing.

I don’t, not when it is the appropriate consequence for one’s current/recent behaviour, as you described above.

Scrivener7

(56,488 posts)
16. "Cancelling" has been painted as an unreasonable action on the part of the canceller.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:04 AM
22 hrs ago

What people are actually doing is simply turning away from people they feel are odious. When enough people find your behavior odious, your odious behavior might result in the loss of a job and friends. Is there something new about that?

pat_k

(11,473 posts)
3. Publicly shaming or ostracizing individuals who violate...
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 12:30 AM
Yesterday

social norms or expectations is nothing new.

Seems that when those who don't have power are "cancelled" for not "staying in their place" there is very little "backlash."

"Cancel culture" seems to have only became a "thing" as social norms shifted and more of us took the American values of liberty and freedom to love who we love and live how we choose seriously and objected to those those who sought to cancel us.

Sometimes I wonder if it always comes down to projection.

Eko

(9,470 posts)
5. Thanks, not supporting a person or group because you dont like what they are doing is just human nature.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 12:37 AM
Yesterday

I dont like what dump is doing so I dont support him. Its not cancel culture, Its just me using my right to not support or support someone. Calling it cancel culture is a derisive term that takes away your right and equates it to a smear on you for what you do and dont support. It's stupid and using that language reinforces that your right to support or not support isnt supported by said right but a cultural fad.

EllieBC

(3,519 posts)
6. I think some people laughably think it's real.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 12:38 AM
Yesterday

And it is on both sides. Cons think it is a real thing and they fear it.

The chronically online youth who talk about it are usually pretty sad to find out it’s meaningless. Example: JK Rowling, even with her odious views, is still a millionaire and people are still paying her.

Canceling is a circle jerk and cons crying on it is also a circle jerk.

Eko

(9,470 posts)
10. I dont agree with that.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:26 AM
Yesterday

If you take a political stance within the job you do then I dont think it is cancel culture regardless if I agree with the stance or not. Lets flip it, what if a NFL player said that Democrats were bad for this county during a game. Would you think it was cancel culture if their was a major outcry and they were fired?. What if a Democratic politician said that racism was good? Would you think it was cancel culture if the support for them was withdrawn? If cancel culture is just withdrawing support from a group or person because of their political stances they take then voting for the president is cancel culture. They are trying to define you saying and using your power to say someone or something is a bad thing for us is a social problem. Not a real thing that has existed for a long, long, time. It is a meme.

meadowlander

(4,940 posts)
11. According to Aristotle the purpose of civilisation is to encourage people to be more virtuous and to lead good lives.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:28 AM
Yesterday

So there is a role in society in collectively promoting the morality, integrity and dignity of its members. One of the main tools it has to do this is by excluding (or otherwise imposing a social penalty on) people who refuse to conform to whatever is considered acceptable conduct in that society. People who fall afoul of this might call it "cancel culture" but it's just a way of denigrating and dismissing what is actually an essential function of civilisation.

So yes, I believe the mechanism that "cancel culture" is describing does exist but not in the sense that MAGAs mean when they usually use it.

I do also think that people can go overboard and misuse it (for example, where they decide that they are enforcing the correct morality and norms on someone but those are not in fact widely socially accepted and/or rationally defensible). But I think this is pretty rare compared with people who just get butthurt over being asked to behave like a decent person and then whine about it being "cancel culture" as a softer easier alternative to admitting they were wrong or making any effort to improve their behaviour.

Scrivener7

(56,488 posts)
15. In the past we could just remove our attention and money and admiration from disgusting people and no one would
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:59 AM
22 hrs ago

find it surprising.

Count me in. Proud member of the cancel culture.

Torchlight

(5,138 posts)
17. It's nothing more than what happens when the right wing feels the consequence of capitalism
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:06 AM
22 hrs ago

Calling it as such provides them the justification to blame American culture rather than their own inept failures.

It's tempting to blame our failures on other people, and the wight wing did just that, branded it, and now use it as another Cry of Oppression they keep in their pockets to pull out when convenience or self-validation is needed.

Jack Valentino

(2,838 posts)
18. To the extent that there were things in our culture that OUGHT to be cancelled,
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 01:08 PM
19 hrs ago

like bigotry and racism etc., yes it is or WAS a real thing---

and now the right has its own 'cancel culture'-- trying to cancel and reverse
DEI and whatever else they don't like-- and doing their best to PROMOTE racism and bigotry...

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