Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
48 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Leaked letter is here "exactly as described...WSJ..." (Original Post) littlemissmartypants Sunday OP
Sure he did. Why on earth would the WSJ "leak" what it has instead of just sharing it itself? Come on. WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #1
They did report on it. Three days ago. Here's link. Not a "LEAK". They did just report on it. Bernardo de La Paz Sunday #4
I think he or she is talking about an image of the drawing senseandsensibility Sunday #5
Exactly. We are not sure because they complained about leaking a story, which did not occur. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sunday #6
I think he or she is implying that the WSJ leaked the image to this senseandsensibility Sunday #10
Right, I'm talking about the image itself. Edited my other post for clarity. WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #8
lol bucolic_frolic Sunday #2
republicon "values" are total pervo crap BoRaGard Sunday #3
I've seen this pic floated - but some are saying the source is questionable - this dude Dean Blundell - is more of a tulipsandroses Sunday #7
At this point, anything to smear President Psychopath is fair game. littlemissmartypants Sunday #11
You mean like "born in Kenya"? rubbersole Sunday #24
So? Is it fake? paleotn Sunday #14
weird letter that has a typed conversation? is this the font issue idea borrowed from Rove? Shellback Squid Sunday #9
Question... littlemissmartypants Sunday #12
Bingo! paleotn Sunday #15
Look, we all know the letter exists. But sharing fake shit is a good way to degrade the entire information ecosystem -- WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #17
So... littlemissmartypants Sunday #18
If you run around telling people you tarred and feathered someone, and it's clear you haven't, people tend to stop WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #19
... littlemissmartypants Sunday #21
I saw this version on Facebook; it isn't the same. At least one, maybe both, must be fake. Ocelot II Sunday #29
I'm sure they're both fake WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #33
This is ForgedCrank Sunday #31
Don't get me wrong, I think it's important to talk about the terrible things he does. We know he's done terrible things. WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #32
Absolutely. ForgedCrank Sunday #34
Gossip TnDem Sunday #36
Hear! Hear! pat_k 11 hrs ago #48
Who else draws with a magic marker ?? kentuck Sunday #13
Simple. Someone else created the smooth artwork and $20 "enigmatic" words. usonian Sunday #16
Interestingly TommyT139 Sunday #20
Enigma is an anagram for gamine. A gamine is a playful young girl. Swede Sunday #23
Gamine in french is not playful young girl. drray23 Sunday #30
I am surprised by his uuge vocabulary! usonian Sunday #25
is that an Enigma machine or a Gamine machine? DBoon 12 hrs ago #46
a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma usonian 12 hrs ago #47
Fidelio C_U_L8R Sunday #28
I'm sorry. I seem to have forgotten that. taxi Yesterday #43
Dont think this real SSJVegeta Sunday #22
Not an image of the letter Prairie Gates Sunday #26
Exactly. littlemissmartypants Sunday #35
Wake up TnDem Sunday #37
Hahaha. littlemissmartypants Sunday #39
Very classy, Sir. rubbersole Sunday #27
I saw what you did there TnDem Sunday #38
A noble piece at that! rubbersole Yesterday #41
I'll Forever Associate Tr**p's Signature With ..... global1 Sunday #40
One thing about it that is noteworthy to me... BWdem4life Yesterday #42
The WSJ described a letter signed by Trump. taxi Yesterday #44
Grab them by the puxxy, and then sign it. Norrrm 16 hrs ago #45

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,163 posts)
6. Exactly. We are not sure because they complained about leaking a story, which did not occur. . . . . nt
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 05:30 PM
Sunday

senseandsensibility

(22,917 posts)
10. I think he or she is implying that the WSJ leaked the image to this
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 05:38 PM
Sunday

Canadian journalist instead of just releasing it themselves, which I agree would be strange if true.

tulipsandroses

(7,689 posts)
7. I've seen this pic floated - but some are saying the source is questionable - this dude Dean Blundell - is more of a
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 05:34 PM
Sunday

shock jock than a journalist.

littlemissmartypants

(28,456 posts)
11. At this point, anything to smear President Psychopath is fair game.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 05:41 PM
Sunday

Like he and his supporters have never pulled sh¡t out of thin air...

littlemissmartypants

(28,456 posts)
12. Question...
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 05:45 PM
Sunday

Did the angry colonists question the origins of the tar and feathers when the time came to use them?

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,334 posts)
17. Look, we all know the letter exists. But sharing fake shit is a good way to degrade the entire information ecosystem --
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 05:55 PM
Sunday

this has been widely studied. Sharing fake images makes it less likely people take it seriously when the real image eventually comes out, which it is bound to. Sharing something fake adds nothing.

littlemissmartypants

(28,456 posts)
18. So...
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:01 PM
Sunday

Should feathers not be used at all or does one kill the bird on site to make sure everyone knows when they stick to the tar they're legit?

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,334 posts)
19. If you run around telling people you tarred and feathered someone, and it's clear you haven't, people tend to stop
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:05 PM
Sunday

listening to you.

Ocelot II

(126,066 posts)
29. I saw this version on Facebook; it isn't the same. At least one, maybe both, must be fake.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:29 PM
Sunday
.

ForgedCrank

(2,768 posts)
31. This is
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:44 PM
Sunday

what I've been whining about for so long. We must stop with the gossip and tabloid bullcrap. If it's anti-Trump, regardless of the source or who releases it, we all get lumped into it being on the left. It's making us look stupid and completely lacking credibility.
We have to get off of this trend of attacking his character and policy with fake or misleading crap and start focusing on our own policy ideas. We already have the votes of most Democrats, it's the centrists that we need to earn back that will turn this thing around. If we stay on this -hate all things Trump- campaign, that is never going to happen. Sitting around praying for his death isn't the way; in fact, that crap is what is driving people away from us.

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,334 posts)
32. Don't get me wrong, I think it's important to talk about the terrible things he does. We know he's done terrible things.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:48 PM
Sunday

It's the fake shit that drives me up the wall.

ForgedCrank

(2,768 posts)
34. Absolutely.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:25 PM
Sunday

His shortcomings and all should certainly be pointed out and highlighted. But you are correct about the fake shit. That is what has eroded the credibility of not just the media and personalities who do it, but it has damaged us badly as a party overall. Everything from this stupid ass picture to ketchup packets. Even calling him a "convicted rapist" or Hitler. This crap needs to be reeled in asap. Mid-terms are coming up fast and it's time to start getting serious and knock it off with the kindergarten crap. I just wish more people could get over their hatred and see what this is doing to us. We are better than them and we need to start behaving like it.

TnDem

(1,080 posts)
36. Gossip
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:47 PM
Sunday
...if it's anti-Trump, regardless of the source or who releases it, we all get lumped into it being on the left. It's making us look stupid and completely lacking credibility.


That's because some people just eat this shit up because they are completely emotional and not factual or thoughtful.

How many posts are just eye rolls to most people...Shit like TikTok seance predictions and female drawings with trumps name in the center on letterhead.

How stupid...That's really going to win votes. People don't seem to get it. Trump doesn't care. He is not running for re-election.

pat_k

(11,473 posts)
48. Hear! Hear!
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 05:05 PM
11 hrs ago

Buyer beware.

Just in the past two days sources -- including Reed Galen -- have read or quoted horrible fake tweets attributed to some MAGA person. What they actually post is horrible enough. We need to be VERY sceptical and unless legitimacy is clear, DO NOT promote. Even the original post on mastadon this image was taken from states that it is unverified.

usonian

(19,164 posts)
16. Simple. Someone else created the smooth artwork and $20 "enigmatic" words.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 05:52 PM
Sunday

So he can deny.

For example Mark Hall,

or is that Hall ...



It was obviously a porno pen.

TommyT139

(1,650 posts)
20. Interestingly
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:07 PM
Sunday

...on MSNBC, one of the evening anchors did a segment on the times Trump has used "enigma" over the years. He probably thinks it's a word that makes him sound smart.

Swede

(36,810 posts)
23. Enigma is an anagram for gamine. A gamine is a playful young girl.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:18 PM
Sunday

Someone theorized that Epstein suggested the anagram as secret code between the two buddies, cause Trump is too stupid to think of it.

drray23

(8,307 posts)
30. Gamine in french is not playful young girl.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:42 PM
Sunday

Its simply a word for a young girl.

No implications of playfulness or lewdness.
Likewise, gamin is the word for young boy.

usonian

(19,164 posts)
25. I am surprised by his uuge vocabulary!
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:22 PM
Sunday

Thanks. I don't read his material.

And I couldn't de-cipher it anyway.

usonian

(19,164 posts)
47. a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:43 PM
12 hrs ago

There it is. The Riddler wrapped in Mister E. (Epstein) inside an enigma machine.

Poor Frank Gorshin.


Prairie Gates

(5,706 posts)
26. Not an image of the letter
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 06:24 PM
Sunday

The Trumpies are desperate to have the WSJ release an image of the letter, which the WSJ seems unwilling to do. This is an attempt to get them to release it by circulating a fake.

littlemissmartypants

(28,456 posts)
35. Exactly.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:38 PM
Sunday

With no comparisons to the "original," it gives him plausible deniability.

It's high time he suffered some of the same manufactured crap he and his kind have slung around for years.

Those who are left that are able to actually think can decide for themselves what to believe or not to believe.

Prove that there's a fake, President Psychopath.

Show us the real thing.

Why not show us what you're willing to attest to as real, President Psychopath? Why not add your witnesses, who no doubt saw the birthday book, then have them swear that it's real, too?

Pay them to lie.

Who cares?

Eventually, he's going to crack once and for all.

He's only a man.

We've already seen glimpses of his accidental truthfulness.

He needs something or someone who is willing to apply enough pressure on him to show him that with the thousands of lies he's told, one lie can cause him to finally fatally collapse.

It doesn't matter if what does him in is manufactured or real. I just want him and everything he represents, destroyed.

It may actually kill him to have to tell the truth. The only way we'll know he's truthful is when he's declared dead anyway.






TnDem

(1,080 posts)
37. Wake up
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 07:51 PM
Sunday

Trump doesn't care

He admitted to grabbing women "by the pussy", was impeached twice, shot, investigated and scorned by the world. He still was elected twice.

Shit like this is not going to hurt trump. All of this was baked in 6 years ago.

global1

(26,161 posts)
40. I'll Forever Associate Tr**p's Signature With .....
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 08:00 PM
Sunday

pubic hair.

So now we can say that all of Tr**p's Executive Orders are signed with pubic hair.

BWdem4life

(2,569 posts)
42. One thing about it that is noteworthy to me...
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 01:55 AM
Yesterday

Is that the lines of the woman go between words, so as not to obscure what is being written. Whether it's real or fake, that shows great care and attention to detail - something that must have taken someone some time to do.

I'm actually leaning towards real.

taxi

(2,402 posts)
44. The WSJ described a letter signed by Trump.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:34 AM
Yesterday

Trump says he didn't write the letter or the drawing.
It is of little difference what Trump wrote or drew, he attached his name to it making the letter his own. He did the same thing with his book. People everywhere sign their names to documents they haven't personally written but are recognized as their own.
He is basically saying, I am Donald Trump and I approve this message.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Leaked letter is here "ex...