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Mr. Trump then arrived, wearing a business suit, and started to hover over her, she said she told the authorities.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/20/us/politics/epstein-employee-trump-investigation.html
What kind of values? MAGA values.

Polybius
(20,535 posts)Ogled as in looked at her? Or something illegal?
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,051 posts)SoFlaBro
(3,569 posts)tetedur
(1,299 posts)(Trump didn't know she was Michael's daughter) who was about 15 years old at the time. Michael had brought the family to Trump's resort. He was shocked and told Donald she was his daughter and Trump just retorted something like "well she's hot."
I just listened to a You Tube interview between Michael Wolff and Cohen about Trump and Epstein. Cohen did not relate this story. He did say he didn't think Trump was interested in little girls.
I think there's enough evidence out there to at least say that he did in fact have an interest in little girls, at least ones that reminded him of his own daughter.
dalton99a
(89,472 posts)Mr. Trump then arrived, wearing a business suit, and started to hover over her, she said she told the authorities.
Ms. Farmer said she recalled feeling scared as Mr. Trump stared at her bare legs. Then Mr. Epstein entered the room, and she recalled him saying to Mr. Trump: No, no. Shes not here for you.
The two men left the room, and Ms. Farmer said she could hear Mr. Trump commenting that he thought Ms. Farmer was 16 years old.
Ms. Toad
(37,329 posts)Unfortunately, it's pretty common.
Laffy Kat
(16,723 posts)It's considered normal in our culture. Sexual attraction to PRE-PUBESCENTS is pedophilia and is a psychiatric pathology. Attraction to 15-19-year-olds is ephebophilia and is not considered abnormal. IMO, it's not in the DSM as a pathology because men basically wrote the DSM.
I remember it happening to me a lot when I was a teen and it always creeped me out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia
As for sexual attraction to pre-pubescents - there's a lot of slop there. We dress pre-pubescents in adult-like clothing, let them wear make-up (sometimes in everyday life - but always in dance and beauty contests). So yes, true attraction to pre-pubescents is a pathology - but the line is a lot fuzzier than it used to be because of the sexualizing of young women.
For example, is a man ogling the 10 year old in this article a pederast - or are they attracted to someone who appears to be much older than 10?
https://www.france24.com/en/20120305-french-report-calls-ban-lolita-lingerie-mini-miss-beauty-pageants-children-sexualisation