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Blue Full Moon
(2,461 posts)Ocelot II
(126,066 posts)Minot has no radar coverage for final approach, and separation is handled visually. On this day, ATC issued what appeared to be routine pattern instructions. But the pilot realized too late that the spacing would not be adequate to maintain safe separation.
After executing a turn to avoid the bomber and initiating a go-around, the pilot came on the PA and explained exactly what happened. One passenger recorded the entire announcement:
For those of you on the right‑hand side, you probably saw the airplane kind of sort of coming at us. Nobody told us about it, so we continued and theres no radar here, so the tower does everything visually. So they sent us about six miles from the airport, so we did that, I think he realized that the spacing wasnt going to work, and I looked over and there was an airplane that was supposed to be on the right‑hand side.
I thought it was a small airplane, like the ones you see at the airport right now doing touch and goes. And he said turn right, and I said theres an airplane over there, and he says turn left, and by the time we read back the clearance, we looked over and saw the airplane that was kind of coming on a convergent course with us.
So given his speed, it was a military aircraft, it was the safest thing to do to turn behind it. So sorry for the aggressive maneuver, it caught me by surprise, and its not normal at all. I dont know why they didnt give us a heads up. Because the airport base does have radar, and nobody said hey, theres also a B‑52 in the pattern.
Long story short, it wasnt fun, and I do apologize for it, and thank you for your understanding. Not a fun day at work.
The aircraft circled and landed safely shortly after. Passengers reportedly applauded the pilots transparency.
progressoid
(51,624 posts)Baitball Blogger
(50,496 posts)Arthur_Frain
(2,237 posts)This is why you need to be careful with what comes out of the media.
The airport base has radar. This confuses me. Bases generally indicate military, but airports themselves might also have radar. Id expect the Air Force base in Minot to have radar of course, but the fact that its a VFR tower leads me to suspect that Minot airport does not. Being a contract tower, its actually run by a private business, not by the FAA.
I worked for 25 years and never once vectored anyone for a visual approach. Thats a specious idea right there. When I started, we could still vector to VFR on top, which might lead to a visual approach.
My point is theres quite a bit about this story thats incorrect. I consider that the norm in our media today.
malaise
(286,770 posts)Rec